Should Jamestown be accepted into the NSIC?

[SW_Mustang]

I heard that Buffalo Lake turned down having the Green Giant canning plant before it was built in Glencoe. Can't verify it anywhere but imagine that the town would be much bigger today if they had.

Kasota Stone!

That butterfly effect interests me - I've thought about what Redwood would have been like if they won SMSU, likely a much more chipper place than it is today. Marshall would have looked a lot different too. Always fascinating.

Kasota Stone rules. Beautiful building material. I believe they also have a couple of silica sand operations around Mankato too, and of course the famous Morton Gneiss down the road a bit.

[SW_Mustang]

The U of M won't give up ag -- which of course is dumb. let's send everyone to St. Paul to do agriculture

Things were different in the 1860s. They purchased a farm to use as the school and it grew into the St. Paul campus with the city growing around it. Made more sense back then.

Part of the problem for SMSU is that it's so close to SDSU that most people just go to Brookings if they want to do farm stuff. Maybe the Marshall community can scrape together some cash to start some local programs since the state won't help out.

[MrMustang]

It would have made much more sense for Southwest to be the ag school. But of course with the U of M putting it in St Paul, they wouldn't want to "farm out" any of their power.

The handwriting was already on the wall in 1971 when Waseca started. Rural schools were already starting to consolidate. Population projections knew that was going to happen. But they did it anyway.

I was told that MSU now has agribusiness connections. Considering their location that is good for the school and hopefully keeps more Minnesota kids instate instead of going to SDSU and NDSU. We shall see.

amen

[MrMustang]

Glencoe was actually going to be the home of the agriculture school, as odd as that sounds 150 years later. It was chartered and everything, but the U did as the U does and managed to claim it for themselves.

UMC is an agriculture-focused school, but it's like they decided they didn't want to be known as a "farm school" so they added a bunch of programs they really had no business adding...

I wish SMSU went all in on agriculture. The business programs are popular with farm kids, and we have agronomy and a couple other things - but we never quite got there. Looks like MSU is primed to pick up our slack. Kinda surprised MSU doesn't have much for mining programs... be kinda cool if they had a class on how to cut a block of limestone and sell it to St. Thomas.

The U of M won't give up ag -- which of course is dumb. let's send everyone to St. Paul to do agriculture

[laker]

Glencoe was actually going to be the home of the agriculture school, as odd as that sounds 150 years later. It was chartered and everything, but the U did as the U does and managed to claim it for themselves.

UMC is an agriculture-focused school, but it's like they decided they didn't want to be known as a "farm school" so they added a bunch of programs they really had no business adding...

I wish SMSU went all in on agriculture. The business programs are popular with farm kids, and we have agronomy and a couple other things - but we never quite got there. Looks like MSU is primed to pick up our slack. Kinda surprised MSU doesn't have much for mining programs... be kinda cool if they had a class on how to cut a block of limestone and sell it to St. Thomas.

I heard that Buffalo Lake turned down having the Green Giant canning plant before it was built in Glencoe. Can't verify it anywhere but imagine that the town would be much bigger today if they had.

Kasota Stone!

[SW_Mustang]

It would have made much more sense for Southwest to be the ag school. But of course with the U of M putting it in St Paul, they wouldn't want to "farm out" any of their power.

The handwriting was already on the wall in 1971 when Waseca started. Rural schools were already starting to consolidate. Population projections knew that was going to happen. But they did it anyway.

I was told that MSU now has agribusiness connections. Considering their location that is good for the school and hopefully keeps more Minnesota kids instate instead of going to SDSU and NDSU. We shall see.

Glencoe was actually going to be the home of the agriculture school, as odd as that sounds 150 years later. It was chartered and everything, but the U did as the U does and managed to claim it for themselves.

UMC is an agriculture-focused school, but it's like they decided they didn't want to be known as a "farm school" so they added a bunch of programs they really had no business adding...

I wish SMSU went all in on agriculture. The business programs are popular with farm kids, and we have agronomy and a couple other things - but we never quite got there. Looks like MSU is primed to pick up our slack. Kinda surprised MSU doesn't have much for mining programs... be kinda cool if they had a class on how to cut a block of limestone and sell it to St. Thomas.

[laker]

.This is a big "Hindsight is 50/50" statement, but what should have happened is A) the resources that went to Morris/Crookston/Waseca should have been poured into one campus in Rochester that handled healthcare and agriculture. Or B) combine those with the resources that went into SMSU and have the outstate ag school be in Marshall.

tl;dr - UMC/UMM serve some purpose in some capacity but would have been better off as a combined effort elsewhere given the resources it takes.

It would have made much more sense for Southwest to be the ag school. But of course with the U of M putting it in St Paul, they wouldn't want to "farm out" any of their power.

The handwriting was already on the wall in 1971 when Waseca started. Rural schools were already starting to consolidate. Population projections knew that was going to happen. But they did it anyway.

I was told that MSU now has agribusiness connections. Considering their location that is good for the school and hopefully keeps more Minnesota kids instate instead of going to SDSU and NDSU. We shall see.

[SW_Mustang]

A kid get a degree from UM, Morris or Crookston does that mean anything special outside of MN?

Not any more than a degree from any branch campus in any state does - here's the rundown:

Morris - UMM is considered a "top public LAC," which is a bit of an oxymoron because there aren't many of those to begin with. It's for kids who can't get into Carleton, can't afford St. Olaf, and value the grad school visibility over living with a Wal-Mart for four years. Because of the school's lineage, they also offer free education to Indigenous students.

Crookston - some major Midwestern universities, like Nebraska, also operate two year agriculture schools. This is functionally what Crookston is to the mothership, although instead of putting it in a geographically relevant area and keeping it two year, they tried to turn it into a comprehensive university in a place that didn't need one.

This is a big "Hindsight is 50/50" statement, but what should have happened is A) the resources that went to Morris/Crookston/Waseca should have been poured into one campus in Rochester that handled healthcare and agriculture. Or B) combine those with the resources that went into SMSU and have the outstate ag school be in Marshall.

tl;dr - UMC/UMM serve some purpose in some capacity but would have been better off as a combined effort elsewhere given the resources it takes.

[laker]

Since this junk drawer thread is actually about Jamestown................

Look at the men's soccer team. The schedule calls for a lot of travel, the result haven't been good with one win and three ties so far. The win came against St. Cloud which is another story.

How long will this keep going? I don't see a lot of NSIC teams starting men's soccer.

2026 Men's Soccer Schedule - University of Jamestown

[SW_Mustang]

Northwest Tech in Bemidji will be moving all programming to the BSU campus

Interesting. I looked at going to Lake Superior College in Duluth once - we had the option to live in the dorms at UW-Superior with full access to amenities. WITC was also basically on the UWS campus and they had the same arrangement I believe.

NTC is the only school in the area that provides trade education so it's good that they are making efforts to keep it open. I guess LLTC is in Cass Lake but that's more for th

[CollegeFBGuy]

A kid get a degree from UM, Morris or Crookston does that mean anything special outside of MN?

The degree is University of Minnesota…they do not differentiate between the campus locations. I think it’s crazy and no way would I want to pay those rates and live in Morris or Crookston

[Millsy]

Northwest Tech in Bemidji will be moving all programming to the BSU campus in the near future, according to John Hoffman, BSU and NTC President. No academic programs are being reduced or cut.

From the article in the Bemidji Pioneer (Forum Paywall):
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The new NTC facility would be built along the north end of the BSU campus, which Hoffman says will allow NTC students greater access to BSU’s student services as well as co-curricular programs.

“It will increase traffic on campus with two-year and four-year students studying together. We’ll be sharing classrooms,” Hoffman added, “so that’ll be one of the places where we achieve some efficiencies.”

Construction for the new NTC facility could be funded in several ways — ranging from state bonding to fundraising to public-private partnerships, Hoffman said.

Alongside NTC’s relocation, Oak and Pine residence halls will be demolished. In their place, renovations will be made to Tamarack residence hall to aid in consolidating residential life closer to the heart of campus.

Lower Hobson Memorial Union will also be taken down; Hoffman notes that deferred maintenance costs for lower HMU, Oak, Pine and NTC totaled $10 million, and that these closures will reduce annual facility costs by roughly $1 million per year.

Throughout the process, Hoffman emphasized BSU and NTC’s current alignment, with shared services already contributing to roughly $2 million in annual savings for the two institutions.
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[Mandan]

The UMAC is an interesting conference. They have lost St Scholastica to the MIAC, Viterbo to Chicagoland, Finlandia, Iowa Wesleyan, MacMurray, Mt. Senario, Northwestern WI Northland, Pillsbury, Presentation to closing since I started paying attention.

Viterbo, Iowa Wesleyan (football only) and Presentation detoured into the NAIA and all played in the North Star conference for a few years before closing/moving on.

[CheapSkate]

correct Morris i svery expensivbe. not sure what you get for the extra $10,000 compared to Southwest bemidji, Winoina tec

Being the "Public Liberal Arts College" is their niche. And the students and faculty their really lean into it. So it's not so much as the extra $10k vs Southwest/Bemidji, etc. ... it's the savings a kid can get there vs. going to St. Olaf, Concordia, Gustavus and like.

[Stanger86]

A kid get a degree from UM, Morris or Crookston does that mean anything special outside of MN?

That's the theory anyways