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  • Originally posted by debergfan

    You're missing the point, Jamestown is offering athletic scholarships but they're not counting towards the 8 because of their GPA.

    But good luck telling volleyball no post-season for 5 years and let us know where men's volleyball and men's soccer will be playing in 2 years, should rename it "dodge" ball for all the dodging.
    They won’t enforce the post season ban, wait and see! C

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    • Originally posted by debergfan

      Jamestown's volleyball program has been successful, allegedly due to their use of NAIA rules that allow them to offer "exceptions" for scholarships. Under these rules, if a scholarship athlete maintains a GPA exceeding 3.0, half of their scholarship value does not count towards the overall scholarship limit. This system presents a significant advantage for Jamestown compared to NCAA Division II programs, which do not offer similar scholarship flexibility. Will not be able to offer as many full rides. You can also compare the transfers on their team from NCAA to NAIA to see how much they improved.

      However, it's important to consider the impact of Jamestown's NCAA five-year ban on postseason play. While the NAIA rules might give them an advantage in attracting talent, the lack of postseason competition could negatively impact player morale, retention, and program visibility. This raises the question: what are Jamestown's long-term goals if they are unable to compete for championships?

      What are they telling men's soccer and men's volleyball players?
      Men's soccer and volleyball are going to likely be cut. I'm sure it sucks for those athletes, but dropping sports on a move isn't exactly uncommon.

      I don't know how schollys work, but you do have a point about the playoff ban.

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      • Originally posted by debergfan

        then Jamestown should be upfront then imo

        Postseason ban that every school has gone through. Why would Jamestown be different?
        I wasn't sure if that applied to schools already in the NCAA or all schools. Though with the JMU debacle, I wouldn't rule out the NCAA flipping on that rule at some point in the near future. They did with NIL and transfer rules. JMU is the latest and biggest profile but there's been a lot of similar situations the past few years.

        They should absolutely be up front with the athletes. My guess is they are in denial about the process, just like a lot of schools are. Or they already have told them.

        It's North Dakota though, that whole state is in denial.

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        • I heard tonight that Dickinson State is going to join the NAIA Frontier Conference tomorrow. The question is what will happen to the remaining North Star teams? Dakota State wants to go D2.

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          • Originally posted by laker View Post
            I heard tonight that Dickinson State is going to join the NAIA Frontier Conference tomorrow. The question is what will happen to the remaining North Star teams? Dakota State wants to go D2.
            Erin Lind will lobby to get them in the NSIC?

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            • Originally posted by SW_Mustang View Post

              Men's soccer and volleyball are going to likely be cut. I'm sure it sucks for those athletes, but dropping sports on a move isn't exactly uncommon.

              I don't know how schollys work, but you do have a point about the playoff ban.
              UMary cut mens soccer 5 or 6 years ago, they played in the GNAC. I can see this happening to Jamestown as there are no d2 conferences that sponsor mens soccer around the Dakotas.

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              • Originally posted by UMary1 View Post

                UMary cut mens soccer 5 or 6 years ago, they played in the GNAC. I can see this happening to Jamestown as there are no d2 conferences that sponsor mens soccer around the Dakotas.
                USF also cut men's soccer ahead of the move to D2 in 2010ish if I recall... Wrestling was cut at the time as well, and then added back this year alongside women's wrestling.
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                • Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View Post

                  Erin Lind will lobby to get them in the NSIC?
                  That’s been in the works!

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                  • The new question, can we back out of the deal to bring Jamestown in and add Dakota State instead? Now that the NSAA is officially at 4 members in 2025, the other 4 castaways will be looking for homes too. This is not the NSIC's problem though, imo as rude as it sounds.
                    Mavs > Everyone

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                    • The announcement is 3 PM CST (2PM MST).

                      Dickinson State to return to Frontier Conference in fall of 2025 (montanasports.com)

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                      • Originally posted by debergfan

                        then Jamestown should be upfront then imo

                        Postseason ban that every school has gone through. Why would Jamestown be different?
                        Where have they not been upfront?

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                        • Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View Post

                          Erin Lind will lobby to get them in the NSIC?
                          DSU? Yeah... I think they are getting dressed up to join us.

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                          • Originally posted by UMary1 View Post

                            UMary cut mens soccer 5 or 6 years ago, they played in the GNAC. I can see this happening to Jamestown as there are no d2 conferences that sponsor mens soccer around the Dakotas.
                            SCSU plays in the GLIAC, I think? Honestly can't be bothered to look.

                            Either way, I'm guessing those fringe sports are gone. The travel costs to the GNAC schools sound gnarly.

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                            • Originally posted by debergfan
                              Why haven't they posted where the men's soccer and men's volleyball will be playing in two years or seeking conf affiliation?
                              Maybe because they don't have an answer for that question yet?

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                              • Frontier Adding Dickinson State as Newest Conference Member - Frontier Conference (fcsports.org)

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