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[Millsy]

That's going to be true of many on that list -

Yeah, I was at the mercy of Google as I didn't want to go into each school and try to dig up enrollment. Google had Southwest with over 5,000 more than I put on the table, as those were broke out as PSEO students (can't remember what they called the program). There were a couple of them that also only "estimated" their number, like BSU.

But, it does give us a rough idea on enrollments.

[SW_Mustang]

Yeah, I was at the mercy of Google as I didn't want to go into each school and try to dig up enrollment. Google had Southwest with over 5,000 more than I put on the table, as those were broke out as PSEO students (can't remember what they called the program). There were a couple of them that also only "estimated" their number, like BSU.

But, it does give us a rough idea on enrollments.

Yeah, PSEO enrollment at SMSU is hot right now. They also have a big contingent of non-traditional students too.

Enrollment numbers aren't the easiest thing to zero in on to get the traditional on-campus numbers. Lots of different types of students now.

I believe Liberty University has the largest enrollment with 95,000 - few of those students will ever see campus.

[Millsy]

Yeah, PSEO enrollment at SMSU is hot right now. They also have a big contingent of non-traditional students too.

Enrollment numbers aren't the easiest thing to zero in on to get the traditional on-campus numbers. Lots of different types of students now.

I believe Liberty University has the largest enrollment with 95,000 - few of those students will ever see campus.

I think PSEO is hot everywhere. My daughter did her junior and senior year of HS as PSEO online, and then was able to work almost full time as a CNA. Now heading off to UND as a sophomore/junior, one math class is in question.

COVID shutdowns really transformed education and work forces. My job went remote during COVID, and luckily, my boss has not called me back into the office. Those 15 steps to my office are still a killer in the morning, though....

[laker]

I think PSEO is hot everywhere. My daughter did her junior and senior year of HS as PSEO online, and then was able to work almost full time as a CNA. Now heading off to UND as a sophomore/junior, one math class is in question.

COVID shutdowns really transformed education and work forces. My job went remote during COVID, and luckily, my boss has not called me back into the office. Those 15 steps to my office are still a killer in the morning, though....

I was teaching PSEO around 25 years ago- first through Southwest, then through Fond du Lach. One student started out at Gustavus as a sophomore. Think of how much that saved! I wish I had that option when I was in school. A great opportunity!

[Stanger86]

I was teaching PSEO around 25 years ago- first through Southwest, then through Fond du Lach. One student started out at Gustavus as a sophomore. Think of how much that saved! I wish I had that option when I was in school. A great opportunity!

PSEO (combined with home-schooling) helped my nephews get essentially 2 years ahead before enrolling at Bethel for undergrad. One's a year into his PhD degree and isn't even 21 yet.

[Millsy]

PSEO (combined with home-schooling) helped my nephews get essentially 2 years ahead before enrolling at Bethel for undergrad. One's a year into his PhD degree and isn't even 21 yet.

Yeah, my daughter could have her four year RN degree and be in the work force by the time she is 20 (she will be going into UND at 17). I told her to slow down a bit and enjoy life. But I also went to college for six years. LOL!

[WSUWarriorFan]

Yeah, my daughter could have her four year RN degree and be in the work force by the time she is 20 (she will be going into UND at 17). I told her to slow down a bit and enjoy life. But I also went to college for six years. LOL!

Should we refer to you as Dr. Millsy? My nephew graduated high school with over a semester of college credits. My brother in law works at the college he attends so he gets a couple free credit each semester. He could graduate in 3 but will take 4 years, between the free credits and his job he can graduate debt free.

[SW_Mustang]

I think PSEO is hot everywhere. My daughter did her junior and senior year of HS as PSEO online, and then was able to work almost full time as a CNA. Now heading off to UND as a sophomore/junior, one math class is in question.

COVID shutdowns really transformed education and work forces. My job went remote during COVID, and luckily, my boss has not called me back into the office. Those 15 steps to my office are still a killer in the morning, though....

You're probably right on the bolded - I just know that SMSU has made it a major focus and that's where the vast majority of the posted "growth" is coming from. I'm certainly not complaining though, it's paying dividends on campus. Obviously, the school is hoping some of that enrollment turns over into full-time on-campus too. I wonder if they have a way to track that.

I went remote a couple of years ago too - I'm enjoying it for the most part, though our office had some pretty good food that was cheap compared to any restaurant in town. That I miss.

[SW_Mustang]

Should we refer to you as Dr. Millsy? My nephew graduated high school with over a semester of college credits. My brother in law works at the college he attends so he gets a couple free credit each semester. He could graduate in 3 but will take 4 years, between the free credits and his job he can graduate debt free.

Yup - those tuition benefits are like a golden ticket, I know them well. Good for him!

[SW_Mustang]

Anyone ever take a CLEP test before? SMSU offered them through their testing center, though they didn't really advertise it much.

I was required to take both macro and micro econ, so I took micro as normal, then CLEP'd out of macro during that finals week. $200 + a $25 study guide saved a lot of money and headaches...

[Tundra_Man]

Anyone ever take a CLEP test before? SMSU offered them through their testing center, though they didn't really advertise it much.

I was required to take both macro and micro econ, so I took micro as normal, then CLEP'd out of macro during that finals week. $200 + a $25 study guide saved a lot of money and headaches...

It wasn't officially called a CLEP test, but I did negotiate with two of my classes where they let me just take the final exams and pay a couple hundred bucks each rather than take the whole course. More or less it was the same thing as CLEP.

One was a relational database course, the other was a visual programming class. At that point in time I'd been working with both on a daily basis for about a decade at my job, so thankfully my advisor agreed it would be a waste of time to sit through a semester of classes that mostly covered the basics.

[SW_Mustang]

It wasn't officially called a CLEP test, but I did negotiate with two of my classes where they let me just take the final exams and pay a couple hundred bucks each rather than take the whole course. More or less it was the same thing as CLEP.

One was a relational database course, the other was a visual programming class. At that point in time I'd been working with both on a daily basis for about a decade at my job, so thankfully my advisor agreed it would be a waste of time to sit through a semester of classes that mostly covered the basics.

That's cool! Neat that they let you do that.

Yeah, same thing functionally. CLEP is pass/fail at 50%, guessing yours was graded normally? Extra degree of difficulty - or probably not with that much experience.

[Tundra_Man]

That's cool! Neat that they let you do that.

Yeah, same thing functionally. CLEP is pass/fail at 50%, guessing yours was graded normally? Extra degree of difficulty - or probably not with that much experience.

I think they were graded normally IIRC. I did well enough on both tests that they were talking about asking me to come back after graduation to teach those courses. I wasn't interested in teaching, though, so I never followed up on it.

[TJE_]

Yeah, PSEO enrollment at SMSU is hot right now. They also have a big contingent of non-traditional students too.

Enrollment numbers aren't the easiest thing to zero in on to get the traditional on-campus numbers. Lots of different types of students now.

I believe Liberty University has the largest enrollment with 95,000 - few of those students will ever see campus.

Liberty I think still has 20k+ on campus. I have been there. Pretty nice and a big campus.

[SW_Mustang]

Liberty I think still has 20k+ on campus. I have been there. Pretty nice and a big campus.

I've heard it's nice- I don't know much about them.