Regional Rankings 2018

[kdubnation]

Re: Regional Rankings 2018

This week's progress:

1. Ferris (25-1) - won 89-84 on the road in OT to Michigan Tech
2. Findlay (22-3) - won 84-56 at home vs Cedarville; 101-64 at home vs Ohio Valley
3. Bellarmine (20-2) - won 87-64 at Rockhurst
4. LSSU (18-6) - won 80-68 at Northern Michigan
5. USI (16-8) - lost 81-94 at William Jewell
6. Hillsdale (18-7) - lost 48-65 at Ohio Dominican
7. Drury (15-5) - lost 53-72 at home to Lewis
8. Malone (16-7) - no games played
9. Walsh (14-6) - won 96-58 at Ohio Valley
10. UIndy (16-7) - won 97-85 at Missouri S&T

"Bubble" teams:
Truman State (15-8) - won 89-60 at home vs UWP
William Jewell (15-6) - won 94-81 at home vs USI
Alderson-Broaddus (17-8) - won 102-81 at home vs KWC
Ashland (14-9) - lost 57-64 at GVSU
Maryville (14-7) - no games played

I'm amazed by the effort you put into this stuff. Nobody even tries to analyze D2 hoops - you could put together the best D2 website on the internet

[schnautza]

Re: Regional Rankings 2018

This week's progress:

1. Ferris (25-1) - won 89-84 on the road in OT to Michigan Tech
2. Findlay (22-3) - won 84-56 at home vs Cedarville; 101-64 at home vs Ohio Valley
3. Bellarmine (20-2) - won 87-64 at Rockhurst
4. LSSU (18-6) - won 80-68 at Northern Michigan
5. USI (16-8) - lost 81-94 at William Jewell
6. Hillsdale (18-7) - lost 48-65 at Ohio Dominican
7. Drury (15-5) - lost 53-72 at home to Lewis
8. Malone (16-7) - no games played
9. Walsh (14-6) - won 96-58 at Ohio Valley
10. UIndy (16-7) - won 97-85 at Missouri S&T

"Bubble" teams:
Truman State (15-8) - won 89-60 at home vs UWP
William Jewell (15-6) - won 94-81 at home vs USI
Alderson-Broaddus (17-8) - won 102-81 at home vs KWC
Ashland (14-9) - lost 57-64 at GVSU
Maryville (14-7) - no games played

[GMAC2018]

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Ferris State wins in OT again -- and again they make a 3-pointer at the buzzer (off a missed free throw and tip out) in regulation to send the game into OT. Beat Michigan Tech 89-84. That's two games in a row with a miraculous finish. Unreal. Scored earlier in the year with 1.1 seconds left to beat Findlay. Maybe they CAN'T lose anymore.

[WestSideMafia]

John Morris is a great broadcasting teacher and he's also trained in martial arts, so maybe you need to go say that to his face, tough guy Jeff Johnson Class of '91. John served our country in the military and learned the martial arts and he's very good. Not that he would need to use them on a geek like you since you never show up at a game and would never have the nerve to talk your smack to his face.

[Duluth Sleuth]

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I look forward to it...bring your man crush John Morris too so he can kiss your boo boos for you!

John Morris is a great broadcasting teacher and he's also trained in martial arts, so maybe you need to go say that to his face, tough guy Jeff Johnson Class of '91. John served our country in the military and learned the martial arts and he's very good. Not that he would need to use them on a geek like you since you never show up at a game and would never have the nerve to talk your smack to his face.

[WestSideMafia]

Re: Regional Rankings 2018

I look forward to it...bring your man crush John Morris too so he can kiss your boo boos for you!

I already told everyone who I am in earlier posts, stop being lazy and look it up. Not that hard to figure out with not many former USI student radio broadcasters now working in Duluth for UMD. I'll be in Evansville in the summer, we can settle it man (me) to geek (you Jeff Johnson '99 USI) then if that's really who you are.

As for USI and Watson, we all want him out as head coach. Is it truth there were billboard signs in Evansville yesterday calling for him to be fired? Or is this more fake tough guy talk from the Jeff Johnsons aka Westside Mafia of the USI world?

[WestSideMafia]

Re: Regional Rankings 2018

We control our own destiny...and they is scary!

[schnautza]

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Truman should be there for sure. They're virtually even with Indy in most measures and beat Indy at Indy.

Yes, I forgot to list them too.

[DUPanther]

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I believe one of my hypotheses last season was that the committee will play around with the 9-10 seeds in order to make all the teams they feel "deserve" it to have a spot (once ranked, always ranked). So teams that are good but not quite top still count for something in the "ranked wins" category. I predict we will see Ashland, Maryville, and WJ all make an appearance at some point.

Truman should be there for sure. They're virtually even with Indy in most measures and beat Indy at Indy.

[schnautza]

Re: Regional Rankings 2018

I believe one of my hypotheses last season was that the committee will play around with the 9-10 seeds in order to make all the teams they feel "deserve" it to have a spot (once ranked, always ranked). So teams that are good but not quite top still count for something in the "ranked wins" category. I predict we will see Ashland, Maryville, and WJ all make an appearance at some point.

[schnautza]

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In comparison to the real regional rankings, here's some other ranking systems (some of them include games played this week)

Talismanred.com
1. Ferris
2. Bellarmine
3. Findlay
4. Drury
5. USI
6. LSSU
T7. Truman
T7. Hillsdale
T7. William Jewell
10. Ashland

Massey
1. Ferris
2. Bellarmine
3. Findlay
4. Drury
5. USI
6. LSSU
7. Hillsdale
8. Truman
9. William Jewell
10. Walsh

Hero Sports
1. Bellarmine
2. Ferris
3. Findlay
4. Drury
5. LSSU
6. USI
7. Maryville
8. Walsh
9. Hillsdale
10. Truman

[KnightStalker]

Re: Regional Rankings 2018

I would bet that last night's games weren't figured in to this ranking. Hillsdale lost to Ohio Dominican, which hurts them (obviously), but also hurts all the GMAC teams (who have played, or will play, them twice) and USI who has also played them.

Also, Lincoln and Emporia St (two past Drury opponents) won last night which I think will push them up a tier.

Honestly, I'm not sure why they use the PI number but also look at strength of schedule, overall winning percentage, etc (if that's what they do). The PI number already has wins, losses, and strength of schedule built into it.

Most surprising to me is that Indy made it in at 10 over Ashland and Truman St.

I think the Indy position is the key to many of the questions on this ranking. Not sure what Indy has done to earn the 10 but I'm sure their standing is what keeping USI all the way up at 5(although it doesn't quite make sense that BU is only third when one of their two losses was to Indy.) I still think that the top 5 should include Drury and then the rest is a mess. Walsh and Indy have wins over ranked teams (Walsh 3, Indy 2) but they also have some bad losses and at home no less. USI was solidly in the regional until this past week, but now they are hanging to their wins over Indy and LSSU. Malone has the win over Findlay and Hillsdale but also has some shady losses at home. Hillsdale was solid until losing 3 of their last four with last night loss not showing up in the rankings yet. I could still see a team like Truman jumping in the top 8 if they win both their games this week.

Unfortunately for BU this ranking is going to be hard to overcome to get to the #1. Although I think Ferris will lose again, I just don't see Findlay losing since they are at home the rest of the way. Even if Ferris lost one game I'm not sure that would be enough to put BU ahead of them as well. The loss to Parkside is going to end up being extremely costly.

[DUPanther]

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Very surprising to me that Drury is at #7 and USI is at 5. I would have switched them, personally. I suppose they are considering quality of teams lost to... so Drury's losses to McKendree (4-13) and Emporia St (7-16) hurt more than USI's losses to UIS (8-10), Drury (15-4), Augustana (13-10), Hillsdale (18-7), West Texas A&M (19-2). Both lost to Bellarmine (19-2) at least once. Drury lost to UIndy (15-7) while USI beat them twice.

I would bet that last night's games weren't figured in to this ranking. Hillsdale lost to Ohio Dominican, which hurts them (obviously), but also hurts all the GMAC teams (who have played, or will play, them twice) and USI who has also played them.

Also, Lincoln and Emporia St (two past Drury opponents) won last night which I think will push them up a tier.

Honestly, I'm not sure why they use the PI number but also look at strength of schedule, overall winning percentage, etc (if that's what they do). The PI number already has wins, losses, and strength of schedule built into it.

Most surprising to me is that Indy made it in at 10 over Ashland and Truman St.

[Duluth Sleuth]

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I already told everyone who I am in earlier posts, stop being lazy and look it up. Not that hard to figure out with not many former USI student radio broadcasters now working in Duluth for UMD. I'll be in Evansville in the summer, we can settle it man (me) to geek (you Jeff Johnson '99 USI) then if that's really who you are.

As for USI and Watson, we all want him out as head coach. Is it truth there were billboard signs in Evansville yesterday calling for him to be fired? Or is this more fake tough guy talk from the Jeff Johnsons aka Westside Mafia of the USI world?

[WestSideMafia]

Looks like USI's strength of schedule made it possible to be at 5th in the region. All the idiots who keep bashing the USI schedule should shout their yaps now, even Jeff Johnson Class of '99 at USI who is a fake tough guy and a geeky looking construction failure. Watson is a horrible coach and needs to be fired, all of us agree with it and Silky Disturbed Stan Gerard who is busy selling snack products in Tennessee. USI is easily in the NCAA field at this point despite the naysayers. Now if we could get a real head coach. Even the people I talk with back at USI say Watson has to go after the loss to Bellarmine. Sign me up for Fire Watson petitions.