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[Moorhead123]

That's fair. Just didn't want the facts to get in your way.

Thanks

[debergfan]

Better get used to this transfer thing becoming a norm in D2 basketball landscape. These kids are going to be free to move year over year and level to level without having to sit out. You have a freshman or sophomore make all NSIC more than likely he will be gone to a D1 the following year as has been the case over the past couple of years. It is going to be a interesting transition for D2 coaches to see how can try to keep a "team" together. It will be difficult, not impossible to do. It is going to be wild.

Also watch how these kids sign, they now can sign onto multiple offers and then wait to choose one later on, so the commitment they make is not locked in like it used to be. Kids are starting to catch on that the new language will allow them to get offers, sign the offer to secure something but then continue to look for something better.

100% I root for a team in Mississippi - I've seen this happen. You'll see students "go shopping" to see if they have a better offer out there then comeback if they don't. Unfortunately, coaches are pressured to win by people like me and will take the window shoppers back. Times have changed!

[debergfan]

Here is the current coaches with their NSIC records in order of their career win % in the NSIC.

Northern State	2019-20	18	4
Northern State	2020-21	13	1
Northern State	2021-22	13	9
Northern State		44	14	58	75.9%
Duluth	2021-22	16	4
Duluth	2020-21	5	7
Duluth	2019-20	15	7
Duluth	2018-19	14	8
Duluth		50	26	76	65.8%
Mankato	2008-09*	14	6
Mankato	2009-10*	17	3
Mankato	2010-11	19	3
Mankato	2011-12*	6	15
Mankato	2012-13*	18	4
Mankato	2013-14	19	3
Mankato	2014-15*	17	5
Mankato	2015-16*	15	7
Mankato	2016-17*	14	8
Mankato	2017-18	16	6
Mankato	2018-19	14	8
Mankato	2019-20	12	10
Mankato	2020-21	9	5
Mankato	2021-22	9	9
Mankato		199	92	291	68.4%
Augustana	2008-09*	13	7
Augustana	2009-10*	15	5
Augustana	2010-11	15	7
Augustana	2011-12*	14	8
Augustana	2012-13*	15	7
Augustana	2013-14	12	10
Augustana	2014-15*	20	2
Augustana	2015-16*	21	1
Augustana	2016-17*	16	6
Augustana	2017-18	10	12
Augustana	2018-19	14	8
Augustana	2019-20	13	9
Augustana	2020-21	7	6
Augustana	2021-22	17	2
Augustana		202	90	292	69.2%
Upper Iowa	2021-22	18	4
Upper Iowa	2020-21	8	4
Upper Iowa	2019-20	15	7
Upper Iowa	2018-19	4	18
Upper Iowa	2017-18	10	12
Upper Iowa	2016-17	16	6
Upper Iowa	2015-16	11	11
Upper Iowa	2014-15	12	10
Upper Iowa	2013-14	13	9
Upper Iowa		107	81	188	56.9%
winona	2021-22	11	9
winona	2020-21	5	5
winona	2019-20	14	8
winona	2018-19	9	13
winona	2017-18	14	8
winona	2016-17	8	14
winona	2015-16	13	9
winona		74	66	140	52.9%
SW	2010-11	9	13
SW	2011-12	15	7
SW	2012-13	13	9
SW	2013-14	14	8
SW	2014-15	8	14
SW	2015-16	9	13
SW	2016-17	17	5
SW	2017-18	17	5
SW	2018-19	10	12
SW	2019-20	5	17
SW	2020-21	1	6
SW	2021-22	10	10
SW		128	119	247	51.8%
USF	2021-22	7	12
USF	2020-21	5	5
USF	2019-20	17	5
USF	2018-19	13	9
USF	2017-18	14	8
USF	2016-17	10	12
USF	2015-16	11	11
USF	2014-15	5	17
USF	2013-14	12	11
USF	2012-13	8	14
USF		102	104	206	49.5%
Wayne	2021-22	11	8
Wayne	2020-21	10	4
Wayne	2019-20	7	15
Wayne	2018-19	14	8
Wayne	2017-18	9	13
Wayne	2016-17	8	14
Wayne		59	62	121	48.8%
UMary	2021-22	9	12	21	42.9%
Minot	2012-13	9	13
Minot	2013-14	4	18
Minot	2014-15	9	13
Minot	2015-16	10	12
Minot	2016-17	10	12
Minot	2017-18	13	9
Minot	2018-19	9	13
Minot	2019-20	4	18
Minot	2020-21	6	4
Minot	2021-22	9	9
Minot		83	121	204	40.7%
Bemidji State	2012-13	13	9
Bemidji State	2013-14	15	7
Bemidji State	2014-15	4	18
Bemidji State	2015-16	7	15
Bemidji State	2016-17	8	14
Bemidji State	2017-18	9	13
Bemidji State	2018-19	6	16
Bemidji State	2019-20	11	11
Bemidji State	2020-21	6	8
Bemidji State	2021-22	5	16
Bemidji State		84	127	211	39.8%
CSP	2021-22	2	19
CSP	2020-21	0	10
CSP		2	29	31	6.5%

[MrAugustana]

Definitely some interesting stats to compare.

On a side note, Augustana and Mankato both joined the NSIC in 2008-09 when the NCC folded, so technically that's when Billeter and Marganthaler's NSIC career records would start. Unless you're just saying conference records in general and not necessarily NSIC records, in which case it doesn't really matter a ton.

Also, why do some of Mankato and Augustana's records have stars next to them?

[debergfan]

Definitely some interesting stats to compare.

On a side note, Augustana and Mankato both joined the NSIC in 2008-09 when the NCC folded, so technically that's when Billeter and Marganthaler's NSIC career records would start. Unless you're just saying conference records in general and not necessarily NSIC records, in which case it doesn't really matter a ton.

Also, why do some of Mankato and Augustana's records have stars next to them?

In a effort to not spend a ton of time on this project, I copied and pasted, Mankato, I think had the * for postseason? and Augustana didn't have the year, I just copied and pasted. I'll update their records for NSIC

Interesting Data
Augustana, Northern had no below .500 record
Mankato, Duluth, and Upper Iowa had 1 below .500 record
Minot only had 1 record above .500 seasons
Bemidji 2 above .500 seasons

[SW_Mustang]

So what you're saying is, Augie and UIU made it past the first round of the NCAA tournament, when UMD and MSUM did not.

Crazy that UMD's success was hinged on just one guy. South is better overall, aside from NSU and MSUM on a consistent basis.

[NSU4LIFE]

So what you're saying is, Augie and UIU made it past the first round of the NCAA tournament, when UMD and MSUM did not.

Crazy that UMD's success was hinged on just one guy. South is better overall, aside from NSU and MSUM on a consistent basis.

Mostly correct, but if I remember correctly I think the North has won the h2h the last two years with he south. Could definitely be wrong but I'll check on it later tonight.

[SW_Mustang]

Mostly correct, but if I remember correctly I think the North has won the h2h the last two years with he south. Could definitely be wrong but I'll check on it later tonight.

Interesting - definitely could be. If so, that's exciting (and I mean that genuinely). Having a more well-rounded conference benefits everyone.

Hopefully the trend continues.

[Moorhead123]

So what you're saying is, Augie and UIU made it past the first round of the NCAA tournament, when UMD and MSUM did not.

Crazy that UMD's success was hinged on just one guy. South is better overall, aside from NSU and MSUM on a consistent basis.

[SW_Mustang]

No doubt he had a huge impact, but Augie still would have done pretty well regardless. Always a team with depth.

Nothing wrong with wanting the lesser half of the conference to step up and make the conference more well-rounded as a whole. Great for UMD, they finally made the NCAA tournament this decade (after entirely missing the last one). Hopefully they sustain the momentum and be a consistent player in the conference.

[Moorhead123]

No doubt he had a huge impact, but Augie still would have done pretty well regardless. Always a team with depth.

Nothing wrong with wanting the lesser half of the conference to step up and make the conference more well-rounded as a whole. Great for UMD, they finally made the NCAA tournament this decade (after entirely missing the last one). Hopefully they sustain the momentum and be a consistent player in the conference.

Then you have to view recent success of UIU in similar manner as UMD. Both teams have struggled until the past few years.

[SW_Mustang]

Then you have to view recent success of UIU in similar manner as UMD. Both teams have struggled until the past few years.

That's fair. Augustana has been the most consistent team out of them all though.

[Augieholic]

UMD/Wieck has to win an NCAA Tournament game before they can join any sort of theoretical upper echelon.

[Moorhead123]

UMD/Wieck has to win an NCAA Tournament game before they can join any sort of theoretical upper echelon.

[Moorhead123]

That's fair. Augustana has been the most consistent team out of them all though.

Argument for nsu too