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[Moorhead123]

this difference is almost entirely due to playing in the North vs the South. The North is better than years ago, but the difference is still big top to bottom.

Until there is a blanced schedule, this will be a point of debate. If I were Northern I would rather play UMC 2x every year than any South team. No one disputes that. Nt a rip on North fans, but the facts are what they are. Now Northern would be just as good in the South, but the schedule difference helps

How is that any different than south teams playing CSP twice per season? UMC and CSP have been very similar over the recent past.

[MrMustang]

I guess that kind of depends on what time frame you are talking about. Over the last 10 seasons NSU is 154-58 (.726) in conference with 4 regular season and 4 tourney championships and zero losing seasons. Augie is 145-63 (.697) in conference with 3 regular season and 2 tourney championships and one losing season.

this difference is almost entirely due to playing in the North vs the South. The North is better than years ago, but the difference is still big top to bottom.

Until there is a blanced schedule, this will be a point of debate. If I were Northern I would rather play UMC 2x every year than any South team. No one disputes that. Nt a rip on North fans, but the facts are what they are. Now Northern would be just as good in the South, but the schedule difference helps

[NWHoops]

I've enjoyed this conversation from a distance. Fun question- if you are an AD and are making a hire today with the following qualities in mind:

- Demonstrated ability to win consistently
- Long term hire (looking on the younger side with the hope they will be there for many years, not the backend of a career)
- Graduates players and develops them as both players and individuals

Who are you picking as your next head coach from the current NSIC coaches? Feel free to add your own qualifications but I think those are ones that would be at the top of my list. Based on those, I know who I would pick today but interested to hear perspectives of others.

[SW_Mustang]

I guess that kind of depends on what time frame you are talking about. Over the last 10 seasons NSU is 154-58 (.726) in conference with 4 regular season and 4 tourney championships and zero losing seasons. Augie is 145-63 (.697) in conference with 3 regular season and 2 tourney championships and one losing season.

That is an interesting stat - though in that time, Augustana is 1-0 in National Titles, and Northern is 0-1, fwiw.

I guess it's probably moot to my original point though, I just think the south is better - and I'd like to see the north catch up a bit. No ill will towards any one program.

[Thunder]

Meh... I mean, I respect NSU greatly, don't get me wrong - but I don't think anyone would say they've been more consistent than Augustana.

Augie is really the king of the hill, everything after that can be speculation,

I guess that kind of depends on what time frame you are talking about. Over the last 10 seasons NSU is 154-58 (.726) in conference with 4 regular season and 4 tourney championships and zero losing seasons. Augie is 145-63 (.697) in conference with 3 regular season and 2 tourney championships and one losing season.

[SW_Mustang]

Argument for nsu too

Meh... I mean, I respect NSU greatly, don't get me wrong - but I don't think anyone would say they've been more consistent than Augustana.

Augie is really the king of the hill, everything after that can be speculation,

[SW_Mustang]

I don't think anyone said UIU was "upper echelon," just that they won when UMD/MSUM didn't.

[Moorhead123]

That's fair. Augustana has been the most consistent team out of them all though.

Argument for nsu too

[Moorhead123]

UMD/Wieck has to win an NCAA Tournament game before they can join any sort of theoretical upper echelon.

[Augieholic]

UMD/Wieck has to win an NCAA Tournament game before they can join any sort of theoretical upper echelon.

[SW_Mustang]

Then you have to view recent success of UIU in similar manner as UMD. Both teams have struggled until the past few years.

That's fair. Augustana has been the most consistent team out of them all though.

[Moorhead123]

No doubt he had a huge impact, but Augie still would have done pretty well regardless. Always a team with depth.

Nothing wrong with wanting the lesser half of the conference to step up and make the conference more well-rounded as a whole. Great for UMD, they finally made the NCAA tournament this decade (after entirely missing the last one). Hopefully they sustain the momentum and be a consistent player in the conference.

Then you have to view recent success of UIU in similar manner as UMD. Both teams have struggled until the past few years.

[SW_Mustang]

No doubt he had a huge impact, but Augie still would have done pretty well regardless. Always a team with depth.

Nothing wrong with wanting the lesser half of the conference to step up and make the conference more well-rounded as a whole. Great for UMD, they finally made the NCAA tournament this decade (after entirely missing the last one). Hopefully they sustain the momentum and be a consistent player in the conference.

[Moorhead123]

So what you're saying is, Augie and UIU made it past the first round of the NCAA tournament, when UMD and MSUM did not.

Crazy that UMD's success was hinged on just one guy. South is better overall, aside from NSU and MSUM on a consistent basis.

[SW_Mustang]

Mostly correct, but if I remember correctly I think the North has won the h2h the last two years with he south. Could definitely be wrong but I'll check on it later tonight.

Interesting - definitely could be. If so, that's exciting (and I mean that genuinely). Having a more well-rounded conference benefits everyone.

Hopefully the trend continues.