Double headers can be tough, a lot of sitting for a few hours. I went to one this year of course the basketball was bad for my team on both ends. Thankfully division 2 games are a lot faster than division 1. I'm going to a division 1 game today I'm sure I'll have a commercial break every 3 minutes. I know D2 has media timeouts and stuff but it's a much quicker game. D1 is 2 hours, D2 is 90 minutes. I like it in the ticket prices are way cheaper, too.
Division 2 needs to do a lot of work on promoting their sport. I think University administrations at that level don't care enough. For the most part it's 200 to 500 fans a game and now and then you get some outliers of upwards of 1,000. But I never see any promotions of any sort when I entered division 2 towns. I know you got to put it out there on social media but you also have to work it in the streets a little bit, too. But the athletic directors get a decent salary whether they work it or not, so that's what's going on there.
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I should explain my take on the doubleheaders because after reading y'all's version of them, I'm going to tend to agree. Given the status of my time as a parent (17, 20 year olds), my free time is minimal, so my ability to watch many games in person is limited, so I was looking at it from the perspective of how much basketball can I see when I don't get to see enough.
When I worked the CWU games, yes, the doubleheaders were at least a 5-hour commitment and for me that was on top of the 40-45 hour job.
No matter what, it's relatively cheap entertainment in a great venue (in CWU's case) with two very competitive men's/women's teams (good job CWU).
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Based on my (often flawed) run-through of the schedule, nobody from the bottom half of the Women's standings has beaten anyone from the top half, and I think the two closest chances so far were last night. Nazarene v WOU game was wild enough in the 4th quarter I didn't catch much of Central.
Anybody from Anchorage know what happened with the Hollingshead injury? Looked like she just caught a slap to the face, then 5 minutes later struggled to walk off the floor. UAA looks like a top-10 team, but that would be a big loss for them.
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I am in the same camp as D2 Rover on the double header thing. It's way too much time to be sitting in one single day and the 30 mins between the games is just kind of lost time in space - too long to wait for the next game to start. I haven't been attending many women's games in Fairbanks for a long time, because they aren't very competitive, but if I do go to one, it is on a week when the men are on the road and it's a quiet week, so I can make time for it. For campuses, I would like to think that having more days when there are home games is a bonus > more revenues and more people on campus to see other things that might be going on and bring them back. But the bottom line for me is that I just can't sit that long or devote that much time in one day to it (and if I'm at home following a bunch of games online, at least I can be simultaneously be knocking out some of my house chores while devoting more time to my basketball obsession =)). I've got many other things to do on any given day and sitting is the new smoking, so I'd rather be outside getting some exercise if I've got that much extra time.
Ooof. Nooks came back down to earth last night. I sorta expected they'd be lucky to go 1-1 this week on the road, so hopefully they can tighten up the defense in Seattle and think a lot harder about the number of turnovers and stupid passes they continue to make, just giving away points. MSUB did a good job in the 2nd half of turning up the heat. I haven't been paying too much attention to them, but it seems like they were dialed and doing well in non-con, and then have just fallen flat in conference season, till last night. Will be interesting to see where they go from here. I still think CWU has the best team (I've seen SMU, CWU, and NNU all in Fairbanks), it's just that between CWU, SMU, and NNU, they all seem to be having inconsistent play on any given night too, so it's just looking like a mess. I guess it will probably be true that the most consistent of them will win out, or the team that turns it up a level at the very end and blows everyone else away.
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Originally posted by Goods View PostVery frustrating game in Lacey for CWU. We hovered with a slim lead for a few minutes until St. Martin's went on a 16-0 run to blow the game open at half. CWU couldn't catch up in second half. I still say St. Martin's and NNU are the teams to beat. CWU needs to win against both of these teams at home next month.
CWU women got the close win over SMU. Closer than I wanted it to be. But we'll take the win.
Is it just me or does it seem like the GNAC is scheduling more doubleheaders this year? I like that. More bang for your buck if you're buying tickets. Maybe easier for facilities to schedule staffing.
I believe the GNAC is the only conference that isn't exclusively double-headers. My understanding is there are 3 or 4 programs that have significant enough season ticket support for the women that it would be counter-productive (and a practical hassle with reserved seats overlapping) to play double headers.
I've heard it does tend to be more cost effective to staff double-headers, especially since it cuts your number of home dates in half. I have to imagine total ticket revenue goes down, but it must not be enough to deter most places from doing it.
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Very frustrating game in Lacey for CWU. We hovered with a slim lead for a few minutes until St. Martin's went on a 16-0 run to blow the game open at half. CWU couldn't catch up in second half. I still say St. Martin's and NNU are the teams to beat. CWU needs to win against both of these teams at home next month.
CWU women got the close win over SMU. Closer than I wanted it to be. But we'll take the win.
Is it just me or does it seem like the GNAC is scheduling more doubleheaders this year? I like that. More bang for your buck if you're buying tickets. Maybe easier for facilities to schedule staffing.
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Stop me if you’ve heard this one before…but UAA loses a game because they could only score 60 points. Shooting just 39% from the field, 18% from 3 and got out rebounded by 10. Frankly I’m shocked.
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Originally posted by Anchorage View Post
Rusty was on a local sports podcast and he brought up CWU as the program he tries to model in recruiting. Recruit local high school players and fill in the gap with transfers.
While Rusty was recording that, Coach O was out getting a commitment from another Alaska player. Scoring guard Finn Gregg of Nome Belz High School has signed with the Nanooks. Joins earlier top Alaska recruit Marcus Stockhausen.
I'd like to think the state of Oregon has equal amount of prep talent as Alaska.
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Originally posted by northernGNAChoopfan View PostI was out of town for the weekend, so just was catching up on Saturday ball, including the Fairbanks win over Anchorage last night. It's hard to believe the Nooks got that done, after being down by 19 with 10 mins left in the game. Speaks to the inconsistencies on both sides. While I'm happy the Nooks got the win, they really are still having too many mistakes that they need to clean up... I still think Rusty will get his guys to click in and get a streak going, and I still think the middle of the GNAC is any team's game on any given night. I'm not as surprised at Simon Fraser beating the Saints - when I watched UAF play Simon Fraser at Simon Fraser, the Red Leafs looked pretty good to me and it was a very tough game to win, while it seems the Saint's are struggling. It'll be interesting to see how they do at home this week against, what seems to be the toughest traveling pair of teams in CWU and NNU.
To me, the best GNAC team I've seen is CWU, while I think WOU is going to have the hardest season... I think there's a lot up for grabs in between. Sorry Tsull... I know what it's like to be in the basement; that's where Fairbanks dwells too often, but I have to enjoy it when we're not dwelling there... I think you guys need a coaching change; Pfifer has had enough time to at least give some indication of what's he's trying to build and it seems to me, the route to success he's going for is still indecipherable to those who follow the team closely.
Meanwhile, our women's program lost one of their best players for undisclosed reasons (which apparently means not to an injury, but to an internal problem). It seems like our women are not just camping in the basement, but have started setting up permanent housing in the basement. Not sure our still-relatively-new head women's coach has shown the vision she sees for the program or how she's going to get there either...
While Rusty was recording that, Coach O was out getting a commitment from another Alaska player. Scoring guard Finn Gregg of Nome Belz High School has signed with the Nanooks. Joins earlier top Alaska recruit Marcus Stockhausen.
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Great wins by CWU men and women all weekend, going 2-0 apiece. Huge game for CWU men at St. Martin's on Thursday night, will try and watch that one. A win there and I'll be more confident. I don't expect an undefeated GNAC season, too many good/decent teams, but CWU's gotta win these to influence future regional rankings. Wildcat women need another sweep as well against two middle of the road teams (St. Martin's/Western Oregon). Things are looking good, trending to pretty good, and hopefully great in Ellensburg.
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I was out of town for the weekend, so just was catching up on Saturday ball, including the Fairbanks win over Anchorage last night. It's hard to believe the Nooks got that done, after being down by 19 with 10 mins left in the game. Speaks to the inconsistencies on both sides. While I'm happy the Nooks got the win, they really are still having too many mistakes that they need to clean up... I still think Rusty will get his guys to click in and get a streak going, and I still think the middle of the GNAC is any team's game on any given night. I'm not as surprised at Simon Fraser beating the Saints - when I watched UAF play Simon Fraser at Simon Fraser, the Red Leafs looked pretty good to me and it was a very tough game to win, while it seems the Saint's are struggling. It'll be interesting to see how they do at home this week against, what seems to be the toughest traveling pair of teams in CWU and NNU.
To me, the best GNAC team I've seen is CWU, while I think WOU is going to have the hardest season... I think there's a lot up for grabs in between. Sorry Tsull... I know what it's like to be in the basement; that's where Fairbanks dwells too often, but I have to enjoy it when we're not dwelling there... I think you guys need a coaching change; Pfifer has had enough time to at least give some indication of what's he's trying to build and it seems to me, the route to success he's going for is still indecipherable to those who follow the team closely.
Meanwhile, our women's program lost one of their best players for undisclosed reasons (which apparently means not to an injury, but to an internal problem). It seems like our women are not just camping in the basement, but have started setting up permanent housing in the basement. Not sure our still-relatively-new head women's coach has shown the vision she sees for the program or how she's going to get there either...
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Yeah good win by Fairbanks. UAA shot the ball ok tonight but I saw this victory by UAF coming, One team is trending upwards and the other is trending down. Keep up the momentum Fairbanks.
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Huge win by Fairbanks over Anchorage at Anchorage. Wish I would have watched that one. Simon Fraser somehow lost the Western Oregon on Thursday, and turned around and beat St Martin's on Saturday. If anything, Division II basketball is interesting, but that score I don't get.
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Rough one here too on Wednesday. APU lost both halves of a doubleheader against first-year program Vanguard. The Lions have always had an excellent women's hoops program, and will as long as Russ Davis wants to stay in charge (depending on how deep a run they make in the NCCAA playoffs he could reach 700 wins by the end of the season), but it still hurts knowing they came into Azusa and snapped the Cougars' 31-game winning streak in conference play. So it sounds like Dominguez Hills got a little breathing room on the women's side in terms of the race to host.
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Well, would you look at that. St. Martin's goes down by two at Western Washington. Big win for the Vikings. NNU beats Billings and CWU downs SPU (in front of 1000 fans).
Bad day for the top teams as on the women's side, Billings (top 7 in the nation) gets beat by Nazarene. CWU gets by SPU pretty good too.
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