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  • #16
    Originally posted by Inkblot View Post

    The only other road teams who could drive to Delta State are Indianapolis and Henderson State, and swapping either out of SR3 would cause more geographical problems there.

    UWG might have gotten in over Limestone due to the head-to-head.

    Swaps involving GSC teams aren't too likely because of geography.
    Thanks Ink, If you have a blog or vlog let me know I'll definitely subscribe. BTW what would SR2 bracket look like with that UWG win over VSU?

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    • #17
      Some of you GV fans need to be more like Monster and take these things with a grain of salt.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Ram Tough View Post
        Some of you GV fans need to be more like Monster and take these things with a grain of salt.
        Yea, when we ignore the financials, we're being unfair to the regional committees. I'm sure they would consider any idea that saves cost or at least doesn't add. One thing I'd like to see added to the selection show, is an explanation of why the matches are made q&a period
        Last edited by boyblue; 11-12-2023, 10:11 PM.

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        • #19
          If they did what ink suggested this would be a cheaper and better tournament. Then if they would flip VUU and Shepherd like the committee did it would be better still. I understand why Ink did it this way because once the New Haven issue is moved to SR 4, there’s no need. Then if they broke the stupid rule that earned access must play a 2 seed they could flip CWU and New Haven. Then the only rematch would be Auggie and Bemidji, the tourney would be way better and also cheaper. This feels like a huge missed opportunity.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Ram Tough View Post
            I still don't see how they would send New Haven out to SR4. You basically are just sending them on a much longer flight. And you are also putting the possibility (although it wouldn't happen) of one school having to make a cross country flight multiple weeks in a row.
            Cruise speed of a charter is over 500 mph.

            Distance between two locations is 1,800 miles.

            Four hour flight?

            That seems much better than most playoff bus rides.

            It's 6:33 to travel from Henderson State to Central Missouri.

            It's 8:30 to travel from UIndy to Pittsburg State.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Brandon View Post

              Cruise speed of a charter is over 500 mph.

              Distance between two locations is 1,800 miles.

              Four hour flight?

              That seems much better than most playoff bus rides.

              It's 6:33 to travel from Henderson State to Central Missouri.

              It's 8:30 to travel from UIndy to Pittsburg State.
              Constant time zone shift is a thing too. I could see North-South flights much more than East-West. But unless you want to settle this in Thunderdome, we'll just have to disagree on this one. Or Witt and I can spend 30 minutes on the show next week talking about the legacy of West Texas A&M in the history of pro wrestling.
              Last edited by Ram Tough; 11-13-2023, 01:10 AM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Ram Tough View Post

                Constant time zone shift is a thing too. I could see North-South flights much more than East-West. But unless you want to settle this in Thunderdome, we'll just have to disagree on this one. Or Witt and I can spend 30 minutes on the show next week talking about the legacy of West Texas A&M in the history of pro wrestling.
                I could understand a team from Washington having to play a game on the east coast at what would be 9am local time, but it doesn't seem like a big deal for a team from the east coast to play at 2 or 3pm their time.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Brandon View Post

                  I could understand a team from Washington having to play a game on the east coast at what would be 9am local time, but it doesn't seem like a big deal for a team from the east coast to play at 2 or 3pm their time.
                  I don't think it is a big deal in a one game scenario. My issue is more about the precedent. I truly think I have as much of a chance as New Haven of winning a playoff game this weekend, but let's say it happens with someone like Valdosta or something similar. You're looking at a team that could be going back and forth multiple times. Their time zone would shift dramatically change day to day. It messes with practice, preparation, nutrition, etc. Not to mention, there are still classes going on. So, they have to stay on track for those. Maybe I am an old fuddy duddy in that way. I feel like New Haven going to somewhere like Valdosta creates much less of an issue. Lots of Valdosta in this argument.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Ram Tough View Post

                    I don't think it is a big deal in a one game scenario. My issue is more about the precedent. I truly think I have as much of a chance as New Haven of winning a playoff game this weekend, but let's say it happens with someone like Valdosta or something similar. You're looking at a team that could be going back and forth multiple times. Their time zone would shift dramatically change day to day. It messes with practice, preparation, nutrition, etc. Not to mention, there are still classes going on. So, they have to stay on track for those. Maybe I am an old fuddy duddy in that way. I feel like New Haven going to somewhere like Valdosta creates much less of an issue. Lots of Valdosta in this argument.
                    During the season, they play games that kick off at 12pm, 1pm, 7pm, etc. How do you feel that is different?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Brandon View Post

                      During the season, they play games that kick off at 12pm, 1pm, 7pm, etc. How do you feel that is different?
                      I'm really not trying to make a bad faith argument here. I am honestly in favor of letting conference champs in and seeding everyone else as at-large bids. And then try to come up with regions out of those teams. If I had my way, that would be how this was done. I also will acknowledge the fact that when you're not one of the top seeds, you don't get catered to. With that being said, I lived in the Eastern time zone and worked in the Central time zone for over a year. That one hour really messes with your schedule and how you just prepare your day. It may seem pedestrian, but it isn't. Also, during the season, many teams have set home game times. We know what time that is each week. If there's a bit of a change in the schedule, it's usually only once or twice during the season. It isn't game after game after game. But I also say that I may be projecting on my own time zone experiences.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by KleShreen View Post

                        This response doesn't make any sense, first of all.

                        Second of all, you did indeed have your best team in your program's history defeat the worst regional champ from the GLIAC of the last 20 years, a team that gave up more points on defense than any other team in program history. Congratulations.
                        And that matters, WHY? You lost a semifinal football game to a better team playing with its backup quarterback. Or did you forget that our starter got knocked out in the first half? Everyone understands that SR1 is not as well funded as the other SRs. Give the MEC Champion (now a PSAC team) credit for knocking off a program that has won multiple national championships. Seeking to cheapen the victory smacks of pettiness on someone’s part.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Ram Tough View Post

                          I'm really not trying to make a bad faith argument here. I am honestly in favor of letting conference champs in and seeding everyone else as at-large bids. And then try to come up with regions out of those teams. If I had my way, that would be how this was done. I also will acknowledge the fact that when you're not one of the top seeds, you don't get catered to. With that being said, I lived in the Eastern time zone and worked in the Central time zone for over a year. That one hour really messes with your schedule and how you just prepare your day. It may seem pedestrian, but it isn't. Also, during the season, many teams have set home game times. We know what time that is each week. If there's a bit of a change in the schedule, it's usually only once or twice during the season. It isn't game after game after game. But I also say that I may be projecting on my own time zone experiences.
                          I know you're not. You're definitely one of the people whose opinion I always take as being honest and with no ill intent.

                          I simply believe it's a non-issue when it comes to the situation we're describing. It could be a much larger issue for a team moving west to east.

                          I hated the 11am central kickoff for the championship in 2006. Imagine if CWU had been in the game. Times reflected are Pacific.

                          9am - Kickoff
                          7am - Arrival at stadium
                          6:30 am - Leave for stadium
                          5:00 am - Team breakfast?
                          4:00 am - Wake up?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Brandon View Post

                            I know you're not. You're definitely one of the people whose opinion I always take as being honest and with no ill intent.

                            I simply believe it's a non-issue when it comes to the situation we're describing. It could be a much larger issue for a team moving west to east.

                            I hated the 11am central kickoff for the championship in 2006. Imagine if CWU had been in the game. Times reflected are Pacific.

                            9am - Kickoff
                            7am - Arrival at stadium
                            6:30 am - Leave for stadium
                            5:00 am - Team breakfast?
                            4:00 am - Wake up?
                            I won't disagree with that at all. I guess my issue is the idea of constant bouncing back and forth. If New Haven had played at Western Colorado, I think we all pretty much know that result. Unlike some, I understand the realities of the better conferences and know that there is more funding from some schools. And there's a variety of factors that make it that way. I support a program that is unlikely to win a National title with the current funding unless it truly is a lightning in a bottle situation. The funding is getting better, but they're just not there yet. I'm still okay with supporting the team and the successes they do have. It's why I used Valdosta. I still think that would be unfair to Valdosta. Maybe I am making too much of it. But I swear, you would get rid of a lot of these issues if you just did away with regions and set up the brackets regionally depending on the field you have. Shoot, despite what some people were saying on here, I wasn't whining about the idea of Ferris coming to SR1. My team is being sent to SR2, and I get that's part of the deal and just roll with it. Sometimes, I feel like a few the teams in SR1 could stand being dropped on their heads a few times to see if they decide to lift their programs up.

                            Also, I like reminding the GLIAC guys about what happened the last time one of their teams visited SR1 in the playoffs. It wasn't the cake walk some were expecting.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Ram Tough View Post

                              You want some tequila with that salt?
                              Does 55-7 in the semifinals 2 years ago ring a bell? How did your all world QB do - can't remember??????

                              Can the NCAA committee have a do over and move us to SR1 - What a dream come true

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by FSUBulldog27 View Post

                                Does 55-7 in the semifinals 2 years ago ring a bell? How did your all world QB do - can't remember??????

                                Can the NCAA committee have a do over and move us to SR1 - What a dream come true
                                Yawn!

                                Come on the road. Ask GVSU how that worked out for them.

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