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Originally posted by KleShreen View Post
Now there's a bunch of rumors of a football season in the spring of 2021, with a championship around memorial day.
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It isn't possible for those more at risk to avoid exposure. Because if a football game is attended by 110,000 people, all of which are *not* at higher risk of complications, then they obtain the virus at the game and spread it throughout all of their own communities at stores, offices, restaurants, etc., and those who are more at risk are still exposed to the virus despite not being in high-risk situations. All it takes is one of those 110,000 people to fiddle around with a box of cereal at the store, a high-risk person comes and gets that cereal 20 minutes later, and now that virus is with the high-risk person.
It is why nothing is going to be "normal" until a vaccine is available that builds a person's antibodies.
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Originally posted by KleShreen View Post
I don't think the worry is about it going through a football locker room. The issue would be about it going through a stadium full of 110,000 people, many of which are at higher risk for complications. And there is no evidence of any lasting immunity from contracting the virus/disease and recovering. Mounting evidence is showing that it just goes dormant until flaring up again, and that the body doesn't produce enough antibodies on its own to actually defeat it.
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Originally posted by twolfbenchwarmer View Post
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Originally posted by twolfbenchwarmer View PostThe Ohio state AD has summed up my stance pretty well on playing without fans.
"That one I've thought about a little bit, I struggle with that concept. When I first heard [games without fans] I said, 'OK, that could work.' But if we don't have fans in the stands we've determined it's not safe for them in a gathering environment. Why would it be safe for the players?"
With all of that said, there is still so damn much we don't know about this garbage that I'm starting to align to an extreme version of what Mrs. Melon suggests: if a lot isn't figured out by August, this season will be lost.
I also agree with what she suggests about the long-term damage to programs. On these very boards, I have talked at length about how many schools are in untenable positions with their choice of division. I have also talked about how the NCAA has, in many ways, outlived its usefulness to a large cross-section of its members. We may see more and more of those scenarios become painfully apparent in the weeks and months to come. Once we succeed in knocking down this virus, much of how we approach our world will likely be forever changed. The sports we love will undoubtedly have impacts to them that we haven't even thought about yet...
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The Ohio state AD has summed up my stance pretty well on playing without fans.
"That one I've thought about a little bit, I struggle with that concept. When I first heard [games without fans] I said, 'OK, that could work.' But if we don't have fans in the stands we've determined it's not safe for them in a gathering environment. Why would it be safe for the players?"
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If there is no season in 2020 I dont think you will need to worry about most schools for 2021...they will drop their programs due to cost. Thats ALL programs including football...many programs are so over extended that every missing a few games is going to be an issue. Shorten seasons will perhaps save football but the non rev sports are flat gone. The D2 model will start to look very good to many schools that should have never gone D1 in the first place. Way to early to guess but if the kids are not back on the field by August I think its pretty much over for this year. Revenues will drop and its going to look quite ugly...this could be the one that makes us all wake up and get college fixed once and for all...the money has gone crazy...is any coach worth 5 million? I guess we are going to see real soon. No politics here but this going to get very very ugly. Anyone want to go to a Wayne State game soon? Those hot spots are a war zone..its tough to compare all the sites...but whats gotta happen is a vaccine before anyone gets back for sure...
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I don't think the worry is about it going through a football locker room. The issue would be about it going through a stadium full of 110,000 people, many of which are at higher risk for complications. And there is no evidence of any lasting immunity from contracting the virus/disease and recovering. Mounting evidence is showing that it just goes dormant until flaring up again, and that the body doesn't produce enough antibodies on its own to actually defeat it.
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Originally posted by BeachinLaker View Post
They definitely have the rapid test right now. The issue is cost at around $60 per test. But the results are as immediate as a pregnancy test. What we really need ASAP is an antibody test. Who knows how many of us are a part of the 18-25% that contracted the virus without having symptoms.
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Originally posted by KleShreen View Post
I think testing will be mass-produced enough and at a low-enough cost and at a rapid-enough result rate where many sports will be able to test everyone playing/coaching/staffing events on the spot and get immediate results and we'll have sports. That's why I think we'll see sports come fall, because CFB and the NFL will gladly pony up the money for 400 test kits for each game that provide immediate results and they'll just quarantine anyone who tests positive and not allow them to play/coach/work until they recover.
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Originally posted by bigmrg74 View PostIf they don't stop screwing around and get around to testing everyone, we might not get football this year.
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