Current State of MIAA Football?

[NWFanatic]

Harding may be a good indicator of the NW(and the MIAA)’s slippage. The 1st 2 times NW played HU they shut them out 35-0. The 3rd time they stopped an HU 2pt conversion at the end of the game to win 7-6. Since then HU is 2-0 vs MIAA with a close win last year and a blowout win this year.

[Divisiontwo]

Harding may be a good indicator of the NW(and the MIAA)’s slippage. The 1st 2 times NW played HU they shut them out 35-0. The 3rd time they stopped an HU 2pt conversion at the end of the game to win 7-6. Since then HU is 2-0 vs MIAA with a close win last year and a blowout win this year.

To be fair, I also think HU has gotten a lot better since that first 35-0 drubbing.

[the Northeasterner]

Dumping NSU was a decent start.

How. How did it make everyone better. How does only having "good teams"make the conference better. For 10 years I've heard this and I still haven't seen a bit of evidence that saying having no under performing teams makes the conference better. Somebody will always be bad. Somebody will always be closer to 500 . If everybody's at 500 then nobody's going to be with one or two losses. Oh I'm glad we're out don't get me wrong because once you let Truman and Southwest and Lincoln go. We never had a chance. You know we didn't have a chance from that first schedule we were given we played five ranked teams in our first six games. None of the other new teams got that. They all played each other for a couple games and then got to face the gauntlet. So now who's going to get it Washburn Missouri Southern you going to run them out too. Because I've guarantee Missouri southern's look before I know it personally. Then who's left. Look around there's nobody else to add. You can't even find good non-conference games anymore. There's basically a whole new conference full of teams that left the MIAA and found more success there. The purpose of the football team and the conference is to support the Universitied. not to support nw Missouri ambition.

[GorillaTeacher]

How did having NSU make anyone in the conference better? I can see how getting rid of them let us fill the schedule with respectable institutions that actually have a goal of being competitive, not padding their enrollment.

Why would WU leave? They’ve had playoff success in the last decade and are generally competitive in other sports. What is MOSO bringing the conference in football? Either basketball teams? They’ve got Baseball I guess. A sort of competitive track team?

[the Northeasterner]

I'm not saying they would leave. But how do they get better. For ten years Washburn was the third best team in the conf and they could get in when it was fewer teams getting in. Then they get in bottom half of conf and have not been good for a decade. Not able to flip over with silo schedule and all teams good.

And how did getting rid of NSU make u better. Did it make the records better? Did improve your sos to get a better po spot no all you did was vanabalizeceach other while the GAC put same two teams in po as did the GLIAC and are where are we now. With UCO on the road in Michigan. And Pitt sitting at home . It was same result and it will be same result again next year except next year we won't be your easy win. This conf went from being the elite in the nation to not even the elite in the region.

And I can guarantee it's not NSU or Lincolns fault.

[LeftSider]

Harding may be a good indicator of the NW(and the MIAA)’s slippage. The 1st 2 times NW played HU they shut them out 35-0. The 3rd time they stopped an HU 2pt conversion at the end of the game to win 7-6. Since then HU is 2-0 vs MIAA with a close win last year and a blowout win this year.

lol we lost pretty bad in 21…

[GorillaTeacher]

I'm not saying they would leave. But how do they get better. For ten years Washburn was the third best team in the conf and they could get in when it was fewer teams getting in. Then they get in bottom half of conf and have not been good for a decade. Not able to flip over with silo schedule and all teams good.

And how did getting rid of NSU make u better. Did it make the records better? Did improve your sos to get a better po spot no all you did was vanabalizeceach other while the GAC put same two teams in po as did the GLIAC and are where are we now. With UCO on the road in Michigan. And Pitt sitting at home . It was same result and it will be same result again next year except next year we won't be your easy win. This conf went from being the elite in the nation to not even the elite in the region.

And I can guarantee it's not NSU or Lincolns fault.

We had 3- teams in the playoffs in 2021. They still took 7 then. And not playing NSU this year gave us one of the highest SOS in the country, had we taken care of business we would have been top seed and got the first round bye, but our coaching staff isn’t as good this year. You’re so bent out of shape about how you got the shaft from the conference, but the moment you leave, you beat the only team worse than you in the region. A fake school from California, and a team that that got shut down after the season. Leaving the conference did you real well. So quick to pass blame instead of accepting that your admin didn’t invest, like the rest of the D2 OK schools, you he bad hires and bad recruiting.

[washeduptiger]

How. How did it make everyone better. How does only having "good teams"make the conference better. For 10 years I've heard this and I still haven't seen a bit of evidence that saying having no under performing teams makes the conference better. Somebody will always be bad. Somebody will always be closer to 500 . If everybody's at 500 then nobody's going to be with one or two losses. Oh I'm glad we're out don't get me wrong because once you let Truman and Southwest and Lincoln go. We never had a chance. You know we didn't have a chance from that first schedule we were given we played five ranked teams in our first six games. None of the other new teams got that. They all played each other for a couple games and then got to face the gauntlet. So now who's going to get it Washburn Missouri Southern you going to run them out too. Because I've guarantee Missouri southern's look before I know it personally. Then who's left. Look around there's nobody else to add. You can't even find good non-conference games anymore. There's basically a whole new conference full of teams that left the MIAA and found more success there. The purpose of the football team and the conference is to support the Universitied. not to support nw Missouri ambition.

Opportunity to increase strength of schedule and get exposure in areas we wouldn’t otherwise be able to recruit would be my biggest benefits. Being able to go to Texas or Colorado and win a game does a lot of good things at least for Hays.

Think other thing is being able to use it as a measuring stick on where your team is at if your scheduling good teams - doesn’t always work as these are early season games and teams change throughout example Pitt.

Free wins are only good for playing backups.


Now don’t get me wrong I wish the 16 team mega conference which was the plan in the 2012-2013 range would’ve happened as it would’ve kept a lot of regional teams in conference and made scheduling interesting but the teams you mentioned outside of maybe Truman were never going to commit the money to improve

[the Northeasterner]

Opportunity to increase strength of schedule and get exposure in areas we wouldn’t otherwise be able to recruit would be my biggest benefits. Being able to go to Texas or Colorado and win a game does a lot of good things at least for Hays.

Think other thing is being able to use it as a measuring stick on where your team is at if your scheduling good teams - doesn’t always work as these are early season games and teams change throughout example Pitt.

Free wins are only good for playing backups.


Now don’t get me wrong I wish the 16 team mega conference which was the plan in the 2012-2013 range would’ve happened as it would’ve kept a lot of regional teams in conference and made scheduling interesting but the teams you mentioned outside of maybe Truman were never going to commit the money to improve

You are right. The 16 team mega conference would have worked for everyones goals. All they had to do was split into two divisions and everyone would have prospered. But all the big wigs were worried about was who was going to win the conference. " To many teams " it will dilute the product. If this conference is so great for everyone why have so many teams left? And don't tell me it's because they can keep up these are some long term members because they didn't invest goal of a conference is to take care of its members. The football is to help drive enrollment raise alumni awareness and donations and successful front door for the school. And if you set up a system that no one can be successful in they leave the conference.

We actually had a pretty successful year even though we only had two wins. We were a touchdown short in four games that we actually had in the bag and let it slip at the last second. Washburn moso UCO, and Western. And we were very competitive against Northwest. Next year's schedule is even better for us we could easily break 500.

I was a pro move to Miaa Guy because I hated the lone Star because it was the same thing take care of two schools and everybody else must suffer. I don't want to go back to the lone Star because the conference is even further west than it was when we were in it. Don't really want to join the GAC as is but at least they make sure every school "eats ". I prefer to join the glvc. . But in 27 a decision will have to be made about our mias membership. Hopefully the conf will have pulled their heads out and realized we are all in trouble and non cons are not the only solution.

7 years ago I sat here and said what was going to happen and it's happening. Every single time if we are on the road in the second round of the playoffs going to Michigan we are never going to be in the title game again.

The bloody national championship game is in McKinney Texas and we don't even sniff it. The MIAA would feel that stadium up if they had a team in that game. But we can't even get to the regional final.

Maybe the rest of you should start investing an stepping up cuz you can't blame NSU anymore for your failures. I hope I'm wrong I hope the chos pull the greatest upset in all time. But it's awful cold in Michigan this weekend. Next weekend could be Grand valley versus Ferris. Or Harding on the road to try and repeat as national champions . From the GAC we used to look down at our noses at.

[Predatory Primates]

To be fair, I also think HU has gotten a lot better since that first 35-0 drubbing.

Exponentially better.

[Predatory Primates]

Harding may be a good indicator of the NW(and the MIAA)’s slippage. The 1st 2 times NW played HU they shut them out 35-0. The 3rd time they stopped an HU 2pt conversion at the end of the game to win 7-6. Since then HU is 2-0 vs MIAA with a close win last year and a blowout win this year.

This may be the silliest thing I've ever read on the board. .

[Taxman]

I tried to tell y'all. Not at all surprised by the MIAA results. The quality of play in the conference is in a precipitous fall. And NW is getting worse at a faster rate than the conference is. No brainer to go in a different direction. I'm not sure what each individual uses for their comps to determine where their respective teams are but sure were some misses on this board this year. At the time while watching NW's first 2 conference games, Kearney first, then Hays, thinking as these teams struggled to be slightly less inept than the other I have to be watching 3 cellar dwellers. Just bad teams and 1 ended up tied for 3rd in the conference...

Make the MIAA Great Again

[Taxman]

Harding may be a good indicator of the NW(and the MIAA)’s slippage. The 1st 2 times NW played HU they shut them out 35-0. The 3rd time they stopped an HU 2pt conversion at the end of the game to win 7-6. Since then HU is 2-0 vs MIAA with a close win last year and a blowout win this year.

How many Natty's did NW keep Harding from winning? Funny thing, I think I'd still take Rich v. Harding's gimmick even today.

[the Northeasterner]

It isn't x gimmick. There's a revolution in football brewing with a return to the run game and somebody better start catching on in the MIAA. A conference that used to be known for power running. But the new conditions with the nil and transfer portal are not helping what used to work. And now there's a lot less players in Missouri because most States going to be sucking up 100 of the best players. And with the transfer rule talent is not trinkling down anymore in fact you're seeing division 2 players transfer up. So if you have a system based on athletic talent not on player development you're not going to be successful as used to be.

[GorillaTeacher]

It isn't x gimmick. There's a revolution in football brewing with a return to the run game and somebody better start catching on in the MIAA. A conference that used to be known for power running. But the new conditions with the nil and transfer portal are not helping what used to work. And now there's a lot less players in Missouri because most States going to be sucking up 100 of the best players. And with the transfer rule talent is not trinkling down anymore in fact you're seeing division 2 players transfer up. So if you have a system based on athletic talent not on player development you're not going to be successful as used to be.

That’s a whole lot of bologna. The transfer portal is full of players from all levels going one way or the other. And with roster caps coming for, it’s going to get even more full. They either got to be picked up, or left out. To say they aren’t transferring is asinine.