PSAC Standings and Attendance - 1/3/17

[IUPbigINDIANS]

TEAM	PSAC	OVERALL	STREAK	AVG HOME ATTENDANCE
EAST
Shippensburg	7-0	11-0	W11	157
ESU	7-0	9-3	W6	287
Kutztown	5-2	9-2	W1	405
Millersville	4-3	5-6	L2	220
Mansfield	3-4	5-5	W1	413
West Chester	3-4	5-7	L2	567
Bloomsburg	2-5	6-5	W3	248
Lock Haven	2-5	6-5	L1	368
Cheyney	1-6	1-10	L4	382

WEST	PSAC	OVERALL	STREAK	AVG HOME ATTENDANCE
IUP	6-1	11-2	W2	1,039
SRU	5-2	9-4	W6	283
Gannon	4-3	6-5	W1	597
UPJ	3-4	8-5	L1	580
Seton Hill	3-4	6-5	W1	222
Mercyhurst	3-4	5-6	L3	446
Clarion	3-4	5-7	L3	308
Edinboro	2-5	4-7	L1	201
California	0-7	3-10	L2	248

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Re: PSAC Standings and Attendance - 1/4/17

Updated standings & attendance above / 1-4-17

[Guest]

Re: PSAC Standings and Attendance - 1/4/17

Updated standings & attendance above / 1-4-17

Not sure how some are counting people. Obvious inflated numbers by multiple teams. What to they gain by phony numbers. Any insight would be welcome.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Re: PSAC Standings and Attendance - 1/3/17

If those are inflated the state of PSAC basketball is in an awful place. The attendance across the board is just pathetic. Hate to phrase it that way, but ... hard to sugarcoat.

Those are the reported numbers per the conference.

[Guest]

Re: PSAC Standings and Attendance - 1/3/17

i have been to all three venues in northwest pa and two are inflating by the hundreds. The hammermill is in the worst shape ever. I had to leave after the women's game last night and unless 400 showed up after I left someone is not reporting correctly. Maybe they pick a number at the end of the night I don't know. Are athletic directors under that much pressure to fill seats. I'm just curious as to why.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Re: PSAC Standings and Attendance - 1/3/17

It could be they are reporting all season tickets sold regardless if the people show up or not.

Hard to say. Indiana can change pretty drastically between the flip in games so I guess it's possible.

IUP publishes real numbers. Every ticket is scanned at entrance. That said, our biggest draw all year was actually the game played at the old Field House and not the KCAC.

They are getting a little above 25 percent capacity so far this year based on the 4,000 seats. Not good. The Gannon visit Friday night was in the 800s.

The 'Mill used to pack them up there.

Student break lasting 6 weeks these days sure as heck doesn't help.

[BirdMan]

Re: PSAC Standings and Attendance - 1/3/17

Not sure how the entire league does attendance, but I can tell you Gannon numbers are taken strictly at the door. The A.D. has nothing to do with it and there isn't a random number picked. Tickets sales, season ticket holders, anyone with an ID (student, staff, faculty, etc.) are counted with tickers at the door and given to the statisticians. Also ... many are confused when they see men's attendance totals because that total includes the entire doubleheader. It doesn't necessarily mean that many people were at the men's game. There is no way to determine if someone bought a ticket for the women's game and then left. So, your attendance for the men's games will include any body that entered the arena from the time the doors open for the women's game until halftime of the men's game.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Re: PSAC Standings and Attendance - 1/3/17

That's a good point. Indiana actually has a pretty loyal women's crowd -- many of whom leave after the ladies play although their ticket is good for both games. I'm sure many schools face the same issue. That happened at Cal last year. The IUP/Cal women's game had a nice crowd. When the men's game started less than a third remained.

I'd say these numbers are probably fairly accurate -- some more than others.

[ctrabs74]

Re: PSAC Standings and Attendance - 1/3/17

That's a good point. Indiana actually has a pretty loyal women's crowd -- many of whom leave after the ladies play although their ticket is good for both games. I'm sure many schools face the same issue. That happened at Cal last year. The IUP/Cal women's game had a nice crowd. When the men's game started less than a third remained.

I'd say these numbers are probably fairly accurate -- some more than others.

That's pretty normal at Cal, or at least it was the past few seasons, especially with the Wednesday night games. For some odd reason, Wednesday has always been the big 'drinking night' at Cal.