The NEW Official Thread of the Augustana Vikings

[MrAugustana]

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Does Augie need 6 or 7 of 9 votes to get invited? How will these schools vote? Sanford may be calling in some chips.

Denver- they want to go to the WCC. But that might take a while. Probably yes.
Fort Wayne- I'd say no. Puts the conference even more in the Dakotas. Would the Horizon invite them?
Nebraska-Omaha- do they care about anything besides hockey? Probably vote yes.
North Dakota- no Sanford $ that I know of- maybe a yes for travel costs?
North Dakota State- yes
Oral Roberts- probably yes
South Dakota- yes
South Dakota State- yes
Western Illinois- no. Would they go to the OVC?

I see a lot of these types of conversations on some of the local D1 boards from anti-Augie posters. To be clear, I'm not saying you fall into that category, laker, but that several anti-Augie Summit League fans are posting sentiments like this and making bold claims like, "If we add Augie, WIU, Denver, etc. are all going to bolt and screw us over!"

Here's my question: How are they going to do that? If Denver had the ability to get out of the Summit and go to a "better" conference for them, why aren't they doing it or why haven't they done it yet? If Fort Wayne wants to leave because Augie gets added but the Horizon never decides to invite them (because guess what, they really aren't that good anyway, in several sports), then what other option do they have besides saying, "Man, that's a bummer that Augie got added."?

All of these anti-Augie fans keep saying everyone will leave, but everywhere they "could" leave for is based entirely on major, major what-ifs and speculation rather than any reasonable conversation or even semi-legitimate rumors.

I just think it's interesting/entertaining. If I were a Summit League fan, I'd be concerned if Denver had already turned down an invite to the WCC once or twice but suddenly would reconsider it upon Augie's addition. But the truth is, if the WCC ever decides it wants Denver, Denver is probably going to bounce whether Augie has joined the Summit or not.

Then again, I'm not an expert in conference switcharoos, so, as always, there's a pretty good chance I just sound like an uninformed idiot. But hey, that's what message boards are for, right?

I know you arent talking fan based so this isnt really relevant. Living in this awful Bison area I have yet to meet a Bison supporter who wants Augie. Obviously most are bandwagon FB fans that dont know what the NCC is/was when I start talking about it. Administrators should vote yes for sure as baseball and softball only have six teams. Just always makes me laugh that because of footballs success these "fans" think the entire athletic department is far superior to all others.

Long gone are the days of "long standing members " of conferences....this movement stuff is annoying and I miss the old days, ha

The funniest thing is they should be one of the least concerned programs. Augie will never compete with them in football unless Augie does someday go full-scholarship (not seeing that happening anytime soon), none of them care about or support their horrendous, horrendous women's basketball team, and I doubt Augie would compete with them in track and field for years to come, seeing as few Summit League schools compete with them in track and field now. I don't know about baseball and softball, but it seems men's basketball would be one of the few sports Augie would potentially give them a challenge in down the road when it gets to that point. And if they're that anti-Augie just because of men's basketball competition, that's a weird little world they live in up there. Especially when they have the best head start of the four Dakota schools, the only Summit League win in the men's tourney, and substantially better budget and facilities for winning in basketball.

[laker]

Re: The NEW Official Thread of the Augustana Vikings

Administrators should vote yes for sure as baseball and softball only have six teams.

Long gone are the days of "long standing members " of conferences....this movement stuff is annoying and I miss the old days, ha

Yes, that becomes pretty important. You have to look at the overall program.

Remember when the Big Ten actually had ten teams? And the Big 12 was a dozen? Of course, I was a Big 8 fan. It seems like the problems started when the Big 8 and Southwest Conference joined together.

[NSU4LIFE]

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Does Augie need 6 or 7 of 9 votes to get invited? How will these schools vote? Sanford may be calling in some chips.

Denver- they want to go to the WCC. But that might take a while. Probably yes.
Fort Wayne- I'd say no. Puts the conference even more in the Dakotas. Would the Horizon invite them?
Nebraska-Omaha- do they care about anything besides hockey? Probably vote yes.
North Dakota- no Sanford $ that I know of- maybe a yes for travel costs?
North Dakota State- yes
Oral Roberts- probably yes
South Dakota- yes
South Dakota State- yes
Western Illinois- no. Would they go to the OVC?

I know you arent talking fan based so this isnt really relevant. Living in this awful Bison area I have yet to meet a Bison supporter who wants Augie. Obviously most are bandwagon FB fans that dont know what the NCC is/was when I start talking about it. Administrators should vote yes for sure as baseball and softball only have six teams. Just always makes me laugh that because of footballs success these "fans" think the entire athletic department is far superior to all others.

Long gone are the days of "long standing members " of conferences....this movement stuff is annoying and I miss the old days, ha

[laker]

Re: The NEW Official Thread of the Augustana Vikings

Does Augie need 6 or 7 of 9 votes to get invited? How will these schools vote? Sanford may be calling in some chips.

Denver- they want to go to the WCC. But that might take a while. Probably yes.
Fort Wayne- I'd say no. Puts the conference even more in the Dakotas. Would the Horizon invite them?
Nebraska-Omaha- do they care about anything besides hockey? Probably vote yes.
North Dakota- no Sanford $ that I know of- maybe a yes for travel costs?
North Dakota State- yes
Oral Roberts- probably yes
South Dakota- yes
South Dakota State- yes
Western Illinois- no. Would they go to the OVC?

[laker]

Re: The NEW Official Thread of the Augustana Vikings

If you and Chad Courrier think Sanford is going to let the NSIC ban Augie from the basketball conf tourney, for example, in SF then I have some bitcoin Id love to sell you.

I don't think that they will. I haven't heard anyone say that it is in the bylaws.

[Augieholic]

Re: The NEW Official Thread of the Augustana Vikings

Chad's Free Press column on Augie leaving........

http://www.mankatofreepress.com/spor..._medium=social

No idea of how politics shake out with something like this, but my gut tells me benefit of doubt may not work in Augie favor on this issue...

If you and Chad Courrier think Sanford is going to let the NSIC ban Augie from the basketball conf tourney, for example, in SF then I have some bitcoin Id love to sell you.

[laker]

Re: The NEW Official Thread of the Augustana Vikings

I found a picture of Mr Mr teasing an Augie women's basketball player.

Ms Auggie- Mr Mr, I know that your going to move that basket as soon as I shoot!

Mr Mr- No, no, no- who do you think I am, Lucy from Peanuts? I won't move it. Go ahead and shoot!

[laker]

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If, in 10-20 years, the fan support has grown beyond the walls of the Pentagon, I wouldn't be shocked if the Vikes would try to do a major, major Elmen Center overhaul or build an entirely new on-campus stadium. But we'd have to be drawing, what... 7,000-10,000 a game?... before things would get that crazy, and I find it hard to believe it would happen anytime in the near, near future.

I think that on-campus is always preferable to off-campus (I didn't like MSU's experiment of playing downtown before the Taylor Center was built) but what would you do with parking for that many people? I've had to park quite a ways away when going to the Elmen. Like you said, that might be many years in the future- would they put permanent parking across the street where they have it for football now?

[laker]

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Is there any prior scenarios like this? I'm sure if they have someone lined up already that they wouldnt hesitate to pit the ban on, if they dont then they wouldn't. Just a totally random guess.

The last time that a team left the NSIC would have been 2004 when UMD left for the NCC. I don't remember what, if any, penalties were invoked. And I don't know what the bylaws say.

[NSU4LIFE]

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His comment at the end is humorously bitter. If Augie at any point during the rest of their time in the Northern Sun is good enough to earn regional berths and tournament appearances, maybe it's actually in the Northern Sun's best interest to let them compete. Racking up another National Championship or even just another Elite Eight appearance for the conference would be better than giving that "spot" to a less deserving team who might not make it to that point at all.

Easy for me to say as an Augie fan, though.

It's hard to say. I mean you should want to reward the teams that are committed, however, if Augie was at that level of national contender it would showcase the conference to some extent and also, how would that sit with anyone else joining the conference? Would they see that (if they have a long term goal of D1 in mind) and that be a deal breaker? I have no idea. Regardless that its Augie we are talking about, I would personally say reward the committed teams, but I'm only one person and wouldnt be upset if they allowed them to play on.

Is there any prior scenarios like this? I'm sure if they have someone lined up already that they wouldnt hesitate to pit the ban on, if they dont then they wouldn't. Just a totally random guess.

[GrifFan]

The NEW Official Thread of the Augustana Vikings

His comment at the end is humorously bitter. If Augie at any point during the rest of their time in the Northern Sun is good enough to earn regional berths and tournament appearances, maybe it's actually in the Northern Sun's best interest to let them compete. Racking up another National Championship or even just another Elite Eight appearance for the conference would be better than giving that "spot" to a less deserving team who might not make it to that point at all.

Easy for me to say as an Augie fan, though.

[Moorhead123]

Re: The NEW Official Thread of the Augustana Vikings

His comment at the end is humorously bitter. If Augie at any point during the rest of their time in the Northern Sun is good enough to earn regional berths and tournament appearances, maybe it's actually in the Northern Sun's best interest to let them compete. Racking up another National Championship or even just another Elite Eight appearance for the conference would be better than giving that "spot" to a less deserving team who might not make it to that point at all.

Easy for me to say as an Augie fan, though.

No idea of how politics shake out with something like this, but my gut tells me benefit of doubt may not work in Augie favor on this issue...

[MrAugustana]

Re: The NEW Official Thread of the Augustana Vikings

Chad's Free Press column on Augie leaving........

http://www.mankatofreepress.com/spor..._medium=social

His comment at the end is humorously bitter. If Augie at any point during the rest of their time in the Northern Sun is good enough to earn regional berths and tournament appearances, maybe it's actually in the Northern Sun's best interest to let them compete. Racking up another National Championship or even just another Elite Eight appearance for the conference would be better than giving that "spot" to a less deserving team who might not make it to that point at all.

Easy for me to say as an Augie fan, though.

[laker]

Re: The NEW Official Thread of the Augustana Vikings

Chad's Free Press column on Augie leaving........

http://www.mankatofreepress.com/spor..._medium=social

[MrAugustana]

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Reigning NSIC South Player of the Week and strong NSIC Newcomer of the Year candidate Tyler Riemersma sitting on the Vikings bench in street clothes. That is... concerning. Haven't been watching the entire broadcast, so I haven't heard an explanation yet. If someone else has, please feel free to chime in.