The NEW Official Thread of the Augustana Vikings

[John]

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Change is hard for some people, we get it.

"We"

[John]

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Not personal at all. Just trying to phrase things in a way that you may understand. My comment of 'the rest of the fans' doesn't mean I literally speak for them. Everyone is allowed to disagree with that, just from my experience in talking to other fans and reading their posts, it's clear most don't have the same hatred for the NSIC as you. Your posts have always come across as self serving, I'm trying to say it's about more than you.

No obsession with you, although not surprised you'd make it about you. Just a severe hatred for stupidity and selfishness. When I see that, I can't keep my mouth shut. Personal flaw I suppose.

It's ok that you want a 1960s conference. The reality is that isn't the case in D2 anymore. Winona is free to drop to D3 and play with all Minnesota schools. The conference would miss them much less than they'll miss Augustana.

Well, thanks for that and for your ability to be condescending in everything that you write. I have often found that the people who think they are smarter than others usually know the least, and I'll let you decide for yourself if you fall into that category.

Augie does not want the NSIC. You can miss them all you want. It's not a hypothetical. You're stuck with Winona State until MSU and SCSU leaves, and the NSIC is truly screwed.

I'm not being self-serving. I have nothing to gain from the success of Winona State, and my job makes it nearly impossible to attend most WSU games these days anyway. Also, WSU votes the way you would like them to vote on these things. I have not written in these forums for quite some time, but you'll have to forgive me for coming on here and making people eat crow after this latest development. The NSIC had a flawed vision.

I think the WIAC would make a lot of sense for WSU if it were not D-III, and I don't think there is any sense in looking down upon them for playing in a different division.

I wasn't alive in the 60's. I'll defer to your judgement.

[StateU]

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I'm not bitter at AU and USF for being located in Sanford's backyard. Sanford doth provide ...

[Purple Mav Man]

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Augie is about to know exactly what its like to be a small fish in a big pond.

I was happy when the four NCC teams joined the NSIC.

I don't think its laughable that Augie used the NSIC, I think its simply fact. Augie definitely got more of the benefits from that arrangement. The NSIC was a stepping stone.

I'm well aware that there were votes on these things. My criticism is with how they voted. Winona State voted for them too. I do not speak for Winona State.

I liked it when the conference tournament did not go to the highest bidder like a cheap whore. The conference tournament in Sioux Falls and the western expansion of the NSIC makes even less sense without Augustana than it did a decade ago. Period.

Change is hard for some people, we get it.

[Purple Mav Man]

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Again, there is nothing wrong with Augie wanting more. I don't blame them for moving up. My issue is with direction the NSIC decided to take. Exposure is great. Corporate sponsorship is great. Games on T.V. is great. The sacrifices made in order to get those things were too much, in my opinion. I think D-II could be about more than mimicking division I.

For all the talk of bitterness, you sure love to make things personal. You don't know me bud, and I don't know you. I like rivalries. I like fighting for the right to host a conference tournament. I liked having a conference where a majority of the games were within driving distance for a die-hard fan. That has nothing to do with being small-minded. Its just a different opinion.

Not personal at all. Just trying to phrase things in a way that you may understand. My comment of 'the rest of the fans' doesn't mean I literally speak for them. Everyone is allowed to disagree with that, just from my experience in talking to other fans and reading their posts, it's clear most don't have the same hatred for the NSIC as you. Your posts have always come across as self serving, I'm trying to say it's about more than you.

No obsession with you, although not surprised you'd make it about you. Just a severe hatred for stupidity and selfishness. When I see that, I can't keep my mouth shut. Personal flaw I suppose.

It's ok that you want a 1960s conference. The reality is that isn't the case in D2 anymore. Winona is free to drop to D3 and play with all Minnesota schools. The conference would miss them much less than they'll miss Augustana.

[John]

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There once was a time when Winona ruled the NSIC, then in 2008 4 former NCC schools entered the conference and dethroned WSU, making some fans bitter. How dare SF for bidding on conference tourneys How dare the NSIC VOTES Minot State in. Also you seem to forget there is another University in SF. The conference does not revolve around Winona. As for AU using NSIC, now that's downright laughable.

Augie is about to know exactly what its like to be a small fish in a big pond.

I was happy when the four NCC teams joined the NSIC.

I don't think its laughable that Augie used the NSIC, I think its simply fact. Augie definitely got more of the benefits from that arrangement. The NSIC was a stepping stone.

I'm well aware that there were votes on these things. My criticism is with how they voted. Winona State voted for them too. I do not speak for Winona State.

I liked it when the conference tournament did not go to the highest bidder like a cheap whore. The conference tournament in Sioux Falls and the western expansion of the NSIC makes even less sense without Augustana than it did a decade ago. Period.

[vikingfaithful]

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Even if that were true, Augie leaving is a huge roadblock for that strategy.

There once was a time when Winona ruled the NSIC, then in 2008 4 former NCC schools entered the conference and dethroned WSU, making some fans bitter. How dare SF for bidding on conference tourneys How dare the NSIC VOTES Minot State in. Also you seem to forget there is another University in SF. The conference does not revolve around Winona. As for AU using NSIC, now that's downright laughable.

[John]

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Yes I do.

Even if that were true, Augie leaving is a huge roadblock for that strategy.

[John]

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This is always my favorite comeback from you since you seem to think you do.

I don't think I speak for everyone, but you literally said that you do.

I think you have an unhealthy obsession with the person who you think I am.

[Stanger86]

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Do you honestly think the NSIC would have made those decisions absent Augustana?

Yes I do.

[John]

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And if your assessment is correct, Augie thinking it's too small, what's wrong with wanting more? I'd assume you still work the same job and role you had when you were 15 then. How dare you'd more for yourself.

Again, there is nothing wrong with Augie wanting more. I don't blame them for moving up. My issue is with direction the NSIC decided to take. Exposure is great. Corporate sponsorship is great. Games on T.V. is great. The sacrifices made in order to get those things were too much, in my opinion. I think D-II could be about more than mimicking division I.

For all the talk of bitterness, you sure love to make things personal. You don't know me bud, and I don't know you. I like rivalries. I like fighting for the right to host a conference tournament. I liked having a conference where a majority of the games were within driving distance for a die-hard fan. That has nothing to do with being small-minded. Its just a different opinion.

[Purple Mav Man]

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And Augie thinks its too small despite the NSIC's attempts to mimic a poor man's D-I conference. So much for that.

And you don't speak for everyone.

And if your assessment is correct, Augie thinking it's too small, what's wrong with wanting more? I'd assume you still work the same job and role you had when you were 15 then. How dare you'd more for yourself.

[Purple Mav Man]

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And Augie thinks its too small despite the NSIC's attempts to mimic a poor man's D-I conference. So much for that.

And you don't speak for everyone.

This is always my favorite comeback from you since you seem to think you do.

[laker]

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Driving to Mankato yesterday on my way to the basketball games there was a very interesting discussion about Augie going D1 on WCCO with Steve Thomsen. They expanded it to talk about UMD, MSU & SCSU. And yes, they even mentioned Winona. I don't see the money at any of those four.

[John]

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It's only a huge problem for bitter Winona fans like you. The rest of the fans in the conference understand what having a college sports hungry city like Sioux Falls meant to the NSIC. And still does. You've always wanted a 50 mile radius high school type conference. Small exposure for small minded thinkers.

And Augie thinks its too small despite the NSIC's attempts to mimic a poor man's D-I conference. So much for that.

And you don't speak for everyone.