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  • Police presents at upcoming D2 Football Games?

    Over the years I've attended, played in games, and even helped coach football and basketball games. In all of these games, there has been a police presence to help maintain peace, especially in big rival games where pride and emotions can get heated.


    How many D2 followers would like to see police funding reduced to the point that they are no longer assigned to games or traffic control? There's a strong possibility that that just may happen in many towns and cities.

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    Originally posted by Eagle74 View Post
    Over the years I've attended, played in games, and even helped coach football and basketball games. In all of these games, there has been a police presence to help maintain peace, especially in big rival games where pride and emotions can get heated.


    How many D2 followers would like to see police funding reduced to the point that they are no longer assigned to games or traffic control? There's a strong possibility that that just may happen in many towns and cities.
    I remember around a decade ago when MSU was hosting UNO and things got out of hand as the game ended. It was embarrassing. The guys in the yellow coats looked about 80 and I was more afraid for them than I was the players. Probably should have had football players running security. Anyway- is a social worker supposed to handle a rowdy drunk at a game by calling for a time out? I doubt if that would end well.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by laker View Post

      I remember around a decade ago when MSU was hosting UNO and things got out of hand as the game ended. It was embarrassing. The guys in the yellow coats looked about 80 and I was more afraid for them than I was the players. Probably should have had football players running security. Anyway- is a social worker supposed to handle a rowdy drunk at a game by calling for a time out? I doubt if that would end well.
      Social worker will reason with the drunk and explain that his actions are counter productive. That should solve the problem. If the drunk actually hit someone before the Social Worker "deescalated" the situation, there will be a Victims Advocate on hand to explain the counseling and social services that the victim can access to help him/her cope with their mental anguish. That should fix the problem!!!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Eagle74 View Post
        Over the years I've attended, played in games, and even helped coach football and basketball games. In all of these games, there has been a police presence to help maintain peace, especially in big rival games where pride and emotions can get heated.


        How many D2 followers would like to see police funding reduced to the point that they are no longer assigned to games or traffic control? There's a strong possibility that that just may happen in many towns and cities.
        Most state-owned schools have their own police departments, so I don't know if it will be as significant of an impact. Typically, schools will reimburse local police departments/sheriff's offices for crowd/traffic control details, so it doesn't necessarily have an impact on the budget. But, no, I'm not thrilled with some of these calls to "defund police" - that worries me that some cities will go too far in cutting funding and those cities turn into high crime areas.
        Cal U (Pa.) Class of 2014

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        • #5
          To my knowledge we don't have cops at our games. Mostly older folks that go, the band, and 15-20 students. Odds are if they're at a game they aren't the rowdy type anyway. Really no need to be policed.

          I'm not a big fan of defunding the police either. Reforms, maybe, but we need them. I am however a big fan of working to prevent the crime before it happens instead of relying on the folks who show up after it happens. We need a balance of both.

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          • #6
            I know Ferris DPS works closely with BRPD, but I feel like they can handle the situation by themselves just fine at most games. My interpretation of Defund The Police is that cops end up doing a lot of stuff they aren't trained for, and many urban departments lack the legitimacy among their communities that they need to do their core jobs effectively (SEE: MPLS 3rd precinct). Because of that, we need to completely reexamine not just departmental policy, but what the role of police should be generally in our society.

            That being said: ACAB and I hope they lose their paramilitary toys because of this last week or so. Absolutely shameful displays from departments across the country.

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            • #7
              Police presents?! Good God our education system has failed you....

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              • #8
                All SEC and ACC football and basketball games have a pretty strong police presence, including the State Highway Patrol, who escort the head coaches off the field or court after the games. All bowl games have a very large police presence for crowd and traffic control. Without an opportunity to have a police presence for security, most bowl (and many college) and tournament games will no longer be held due to major liability issues. Trying to use ill trained security, social workers, safety crossing guards with whistles and little stop signs will never work. Also, attendance will take a huge nosedive due to safety concerns.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Eagle74 View Post
                  All SEC and ACC football and basketball games have a pretty strong police presence, including the State Highway Patrol, who escort the head coaches off the field or court after the games. All bowl games have a very large police presence for crowd and traffic control. Without an opportunity to have a police presence for security, most bowl (and many college) and tournament games will no longer be held due to major liability issues. Trying to use ill trained security, social workers, safety crossing guards with whistles and little stop signs will never work. Also, attendance will take a huge nosedive due to safety concerns.
                  The apocalyptic attitude many members take on the board in regards to sports is astounding. I don't think we're going to have anything to worry about. "Defund" and "disband" are fancy terms for "massive reformations." The bureaucracy and unions will prevent most of that from happening. In the hypothetical event a police force was actually disbanded, it would be rebuilt from the ground up. Crossing guards, rent-a-cops, and social workers aren't taking over policing duties.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SW_Mustang View Post

                    The apocalyptic attitude many members take on the board in regards to sports is astounding. I don't think we're going to have anything to worry about. "Defund" and "disband" are fancy terms for "massive reformations." The bureaucracy and unions will prevent most of that from happening. In the hypothetical event a police force was actually disbanded, it would be rebuilt from the ground up. Crossing guards, rent-a-cops, and social workers aren't taking over policing duties.
                    Camden, NJ is the place people can look at - not a perfect experiment, but a positive experience.

                    City was unable to afford the force they needed. So they did disband it - and its union contract - for an offer from the county to create one run by the county at just over half cost per officer and much stricter rules of engagement/policy. I believe the NYU school of CJ might have set up the policy framework. Basically double the cops, but better ruleset.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RedFromMI View Post

                      Camden, NJ is the place people can look at - not a perfect experiment, but a positive experience.

                      City was unable to afford the force they needed. So they did disband it - and its union contract - for an offer from the county to create one run by the county at just over half cost per officer and much stricter rules of engagement/policy. I believe the NYU school of CJ might have set up the policy framework. Basically double the cops, but better ruleset.
                      That's good to hear. NYU is a good school, so I'd trust something if they came up with it.

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                      • #12
                        Guess we'll just have to activate the National Guard when those jackholes from Maryville come to town.

                        Seriously, I'm with Mustang - I just don't get the fear-mongering here.

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                        • #13
                          Defunding the police means no more military equipment, not taking police off the streets. Police departments have received or purchased 7.2 billion dollars worth of military equipment over the past of couple of decades. Reports indicated between January and March this year police departments received 30 mine resistant vehicles worth about $700,000 each and even pouches to carry grenades, according to Pentagon disclosures on the property transfer program

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                          • #14
                            I work in Omaha part time at the arena and the stadium for Creighton games. The police you see there are all off duty officers picking up extra money. They are working for the event venue not the city. But when the CWS comes to town it's a mixture of local, state, and FBI. There will always be law enforcement.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by WarriorVoice View Post
                              Police presents?! Good God our education system has failed you....
                              A prime example of why we should defund police and reinvest in our education system. How ironic...

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