FCS schools have to pay $$$ to help Power 4

[GorillaTeacher]

But athletic scholarships are 100% funded by boosters/donors, not federal funds.

No.

[tsull]

No.

Yes.

Federal and state funds do not fund athletic scholarships. Can an athlete get a Pell Grant in D2? Yes, but it's not an athletic scholarship. Can a D2 athlete fill out a FAFSA? Yes, but it's not an athletic scholarship. Again, federal funds do not go towards athletic scholarships, to think so is amazingly wrong.

[ctrabs74]

Yes.

Federal and state funds do not fund athletic scholarships. Can an athlete get a Pell Grant in D2? Yes, but it's not an athletic scholarship. Can a D2 athlete fill out a FAFSA? Yes, but it's not an athletic scholarship. Again, federal funds do not go towards athletic scholarships, to think so is amazingly wrong.

I know federal funds can't be used for athletics scholarships, but I thought a few states did allow state funding for athletic scholarships. I know Pennsylvania doesn't allow for that, but Missouri, for example, does.

[GorillaTeacher]

I don’t think Missouri does. Kansas does not. Still, the vast majority of athletic funding comes from student fees.

[tsull]

I don’t think Missouri does. Kansas does not. Still, the vast majority of athletic funding comes from student fees.

Athletic funding may come from student fees, but not federal funds as stated her. Also, in all of the schools I've been around, student fees do not go towards scholarships, they go towards the sports in general, travel, uniforms, facilities, etc. Athletic scholarships are still funded by boosters and donations. Now, can coaches encourage Pell Grants, loans, etc., yes. In D2 that's probably crucial. But the feds are not funding scholarships and neither are the states.

[GorillaTeacher]

Pitt undergrad students pay 184 a semester to just “athletics” so I am sure if they have the money in the athletic department, they use it how they see fit.

[tsull]

Remember, your D1 athlete gets a scholarship worth $100K minimum per year when one factors in room and board, tuition, counselors, tutors, nutrition, free travel, free gear, etc. If the Dartmouth dudes win, scholarships leave (Dartmouth doesn't get athletic scholarships anyway ... this is what the Dartmouth frat boys don't like). If the student athletes are employed, colleges could set the scale at minimum wage like most work study students. They also must sign contracts, have sick days, vacation days, and yes, be fired immediately, not at the end of the season. Also, being taken out of the paycheck are State and federal taxes. Thirty hours a week at minimum wage? I'd rather have the scholarship ... guess those Ivy guys aren't very bright. I'd guess most student-athletes would make under $20K in their new model.

[MooseLodge]

Remember, your D1 athlete gets a scholarship worth $100K minimum per year when one factors in room and board, tuition, counselors, tutors, nutrition, free travel, free gear, etc. If the Dartmouth dudes win, scholarships leave (Dartmouth doesn't get athletic scholarships anyway ... this is what the Dartmouth frat boys don't like). If the student athletes are employed, colleges could set the scale at minimum wage like most work study students. They also must sign contracts, have sick days, vacation days, and yes, be fired immediately, not at the end of the season. Also, being taken out of the paycheck are State and federal taxes. Thirty hours a week at minimum wage? I'd rather have the scholarship ... guess those Ivy guys aren't very bright. I'd guess most student-athletes would make under $20K in their new model.

Schools that are allowed to pay, or perhaps required to pay, can pay or not pay what they want, provided it is within employment law. In California, those laws are very different than Oklahoma, etc. It's all a matter of how competitive they want to be, just like any other business.

[Eagle74]

Remember, your D1 athlete gets a scholarship worth $100K minimum per year when one factors in room and board, tuition, counselors, tutors, nutrition, free travel, free gear, etc. If the Dartmouth dudes win, scholarships leave (Dartmouth doesn't get athletic scholarships anyway ... this is what the Dartmouth frat boys don't like). If the student athletes are employed, colleges could set the scale at minimum wage like most work study students. They also must sign contracts, have sick days, vacation days, and yes, be fired immediately, not at the end of the season. Also, being taken out of the paycheck are State and federal taxes. Thirty hours a week at minimum wage? I'd rather have the scholarship ... guess those Ivy guys aren't very bright. I'd guess most student-athletes would make under $20K in their new model.

I have no doubt that the unions will be all over this, and the union collective bargaining officials will end up with a lot more clout than the coaches and ADs. I foresee many programs just throwing in the towel.

[MooseLodge]

I have no doubt that the unions will be all over this, and the union collective bargaining officials will end up with a lot more clout than the coaches and ADs. I foresee many programs just throwing in the towel.

Most will convert to a non-athletic scholarship model and call it good. That's the path of least resistance by 1000X.

[GorillaTeacher]

Most will convert to a non-athletic scholarship model and call it good. That's the path of least resistance by 1000X.

Probably the quickest way to kill your programs as well.

[MooseLodge]

Probably the quickest way to kill your programs as well.

It might also be the only viable option to save programs. What universities will have the brain trust and funds to navigate this minefield?

[GorillaTeacher]

It might also be the only viable option to save programs. What universities will have the brain trust and funds to navigate this minefield?

You’re telling me that universities that have hundreds of employees can’t don’t have a personal department that could handle this?

[MooseLodge]

You’re telling me that universities that have hundreds of employees can’t don’t have a personal department that could handle this?

We may soon find out!

[Predatory Primates]

Schollies could be replaced by a pay scale pretty easily in D2.

Women's sports would likely die, though.