Derek Redd reports Shepherd is leaving the MEC after next year

[CALUPA69]

Re: Derek Redd reports Shepherd is leaving the MEC after next year

It would seem that Ohio, a relatively compact and densely populated state, could easily have an all in state league such as the PSAC. With 12 D2, 22 D3 and 8 NAIA schools a bit of realignment would do the trick. The big difference is that the schools in Pa were already joined at the hip long before intercollegiate sports was even a discussion. Their evolution into the PSAC IN 1951 was a natural progression from their main function as state teachers colleges. Unfortunately no such happy circumstance exists in the BUCKEYE STATE. With an amazing variety of public, private and religious institutions, all with divergent agendas, the likelihood of the long term survival of an Ohio only league seems a long shot at best.

[casey1017]

Re: Derek Redd reports Shepherd is leaving the MEC after next year

Ashland's flirtation with the GMAC has to do with being in a league with Findlay, Ohio Dominican, Walsh, and Malone. That's a lot of easy travel which wouldn't be the case as a member of the MEC.

Add Tiffin as well. They begin play in the GMAC this fall.

[Brandon]

Re: Derek Redd reports Shepherd is leaving the MEC after next year

It was a follow on question. Kind of in response to those who say there is no way Ashland would EVER join the MEC. If Ashland is kicking the tires on leaving the GLIAC but doesn't share any lifelong bonds with the current members of the GMAC, why would they not consider the MEC? MEC is made up of now 50% private schools so it's not like they would be the only private member...the history of the MEC on the national stage is pretty good for a conference that is only six years old...and I would think Ashland would have a pretty good chance of duplicating Shepherds performance in the football playoffs...From a basketball standpoint the MEC is at least comparable to the GLIAC giving Ashland at least six games against highly ranked teams every year.

There is something driving Ashland to not be completely happy with the GLIAC and not to be happy with the current situation in the GMAC. Your assessment as to why this is might be 100% on the money...but then again, maybe not. Maybe the MEC addresses the "issue" that is keeping Ashland from jumping. Either way, it's worth a phone call.

Ashland's flirtation with the GMAC has to do with being in a league with Findlay, Ohio Dominican, Walsh, and Malone. That's a lot of easy travel which wouldn't be the case as a member of the MEC.

[ctrabs74]

Re: Derek Redd reports Shepherd is leaving the MEC after next year

One of the worst articles I've ever read.

Aside from the drastically wrong scholarship reporting ... where are all these 10,000 seat stadiums?

Unless he's alluding to Slippery Rock, which is the only stadium which even approaches 10K, I don't get that either.

[boatcapt]

Re: Derek Redd reports Shepherd is leaving the MEC after next year

One of the worst articles I've ever read.

Aside from the drastically wrong scholarship reporting ... where are all these 10,000 seat stadiums?

Reads like unedited notes. Apparently someone missed a deadline!!!

[boatcapt]

Re: Derek Redd reports Shepherd is leaving the MEC after next year

https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/

All the info you need is there

Thanks. Interesting...

[Stea1th]

Re: Derek Redd reports Shepherd is leaving the MEC after next year

Just curious were Shepherd fits in athletic budget wise to the PSAC?

https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/

All the info you need is there

[boatcapt]

Re: Derek Redd reports Shepherd is leaving the MEC after next year

Just curious were Shepherd fits in athletic budget wise to the PSAC?

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Re: Derek Redd reports Shepherd is leaving the MEC after next year

One of the worst articles I've ever read.

Aside from the drastically wrong scholarship reporting ... where are all these 10,000 seat stadiums?

[ESU Warrior]

Re: Derek Redd reports Shepherd is leaving the MEC after next year

Not sure how this guys has a job.

http://www.shepherdstownchronicle.co....html?nav=5125

Wow. I wish all those schools, and ESU, HAD 36 to offer. Another piece on journalism where the author did no research.

[Horror Child]

Re: Derek Redd reports Shepherd is leaving the MEC after next year

Not sure how this guys has a job.

http://www.shepherdstownchronicle.co....html?nav=5125

[CardinalAlum]

Re: Derek Redd reports Shepherd is leaving the MEC after next year

I'd love to know what the true issue is/was. Was the HC truly fired because of violation(s) in 2011 that just came to light or is that just a convenient excuse for firing him for another reason? Neither side seems willing to even hint at what the 2011 violation(s) were so it's impossible to tell.

To the long term prospects for WJ men's basketball, I think it really depends on who they hire AND weather the program has to endure a major penalty for the 2011 violation(s). Right guy and minor or no penalty and they could continue on with hardly a hick-up.

I'd love to know as well, but knowing my alma mater they'll never say what violations occurred.

I'm still surprised that our only self-punishment was to fire Sancomb. We didn't vacate wins or reduce scholarships. This only makes sense if the admin is actually thinking that just Sancomb would be punished for the violations. That said, I can't think of many things that would result in only a coach getting punished.

Alternatively, this could be a pile of bull and our admin is trying to cover-up another questionable decision that was made without thinking. Who knows with us.

If there are violations I just hope they're unrelated to his tenure as athletic director. He was the AD from 2007 to 2013.

[boatcapt]

Re: Derek Redd reports Shepherd is leaving the MEC after next year

It will be real interesting to see what becomes of the Wheeling Jesuit men's basketball program.

These things come and go but this may linger for several years.

I'd love to know what the true issue is/was. Was the HC truly fired because of violation(s) in 2011 that just came to light or is that just a convenient excuse for firing him for another reason? Neither side seems willing to even hint at what the 2011 violation(s) were so it's impossible to tell.

To the long term prospects for WJ men's basketball, I think it really depends on who they hire AND weather the program has to endure a major penalty for the 2011 violation(s). Right guy and minor or no penalty and they could continue on with hardly a hick-up.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Re: Derek Redd reports Shepherd is leaving the MEC after next year

It will be real interesting to see what becomes of the Wheeling Jesuit men's basketball program.

These things come and go but this may linger for several years.

[boatcapt]

Re: Derek Redd reports Shepherd is leaving the MEC after next year

You asked what might be hindering Ashland from making the jump. I listed their lack of history/bond as a hindrance, not a selling point.

It was a follow on question. Kind of in response to those who say there is no way Ashland would EVER join the MEC. If Ashland is kicking the tires on leaving the GLIAC but doesn't share any lifelong bonds with the current members of the GMAC, why would they not consider the MEC? MEC is made up of now 50% private schools so it's not like they would be the only private member...the history of the MEC on the national stage is pretty good for a conference that is only six years old...and I would think Ashland would have a pretty good chance of duplicating Shepherds performance in the football playoffs...From a basketball standpoint the MEC is at least comparable to the GLIAC giving Ashland at least six games against highly ranked teams every year.

There is something driving Ashland to not be completely happy with the GLIAC and not to be happy with the current situation in the GMAC. Your assessment as to why this is might be 100% on the money...but then again, maybe not. Maybe the MEC addresses the "issue" that is keeping Ashland from jumping. Either way, it's worth a phone call.