Minnesota State at Slippery Rock

[SRU 88]

It's kind of funny Lutz is the super-coach of the moment when he didn't recruit Rivers and also had him as 3rd string at the start of last season.

Lutz found his magic in a bottle and rode the wave. Good for him. Roland probably saved his job. I'm very curious to see what things look like next year. I'm guessing a lot like Lutz's first two years.

Rivers did not get to camp until the 2nd day, that is why he was 3rd string.. Koester looked good in the opener, then hurt knee in Ship game; King also got hurt in Ship game, then Rivers started in 3rd game against Millersville and that day did most of the damage with his legs.

Next year, yes Rivers will be gone as will Zaffram, they lose 2ol, 2 DL and Glover-Williams in the secondary. All the receivers are scheduled to return, they played 7 true freshmen this year, will they be 13-0 next year ;probably not, but would not say they will not compete for another West title.

[PSACfan1]

I'm not interested in a 'my QB is better than your QB' contest. All I'm saying is with all the hype about Rivers I expected to see someone who was truly dominant at this level and I don't see that. Yes, he's a record-setter but you can throw that record book out the window. Doesn't mean much come Saturday. On Saturday, we're going to see how good he really is.

I mean if Maxwell was doing this I'm sure you'd all be saying the same things you are blasting others for saying about Rivers...

[IUPNation]

It's kind of funny Lutz is the super-coach of the moment when he didn't recruit Rivers and also had him as 3rd string at the start of last season.

Lutz found his magic in a bottle and rode the wave. Good for him. Roland probably saved his job. I'm very curious to see what things look like next year. I'm guessing a lot like Lutz's first two years.

[EastStroud13]

That's totally spinning your original comment. The PSAC had a team set up to do exactly what your original post said. Then the bumpkins wanted parity and thus made the league a punch-line on the national stage. Stupidest thing I've ever seen in sports.

You seem to be spinning this just as much. The PSAC had a team set up to do what my post said. Did that team actually do what my post said? No, because of said rule changes. I'm not going to use hypotheticals as fact, even if those hypotheticals seemed likely.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I'm not here to debate the rule itself. I think if you ask neutrals nationwide, not many will be impressed by two runner-up finishes. That is all I'm saying.

That's totally spinning your original comment. The PSAC had a team set up to do exactly what your original post said. Then the bumpkins wanted parity and thus made the league a punch-line on the national stage. Stupidest thing I've ever seen in sports.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

It's kind of funny Lutz is the super-coach of the moment when he didn't recruit Rivers and also had him as 3rd string at the start of last season.

Lutz found his magic in a bottle and rode the wave. Good for him. Roland probably saved his job. I'm very curious to see what things look like next year. I'm guessing a lot like Lutz's first two years.

[EastStroud13]

A certain coach, not to name names, called a timeout and led the charge.

I'm not here to debate the rule itself. I think if you ask neutrals nationwide, not many will be impressed by two runner-up finishes. That is all I'm saying.

[Mad3 Boss]

I'm not interested in a 'my QB is better than your QB' contest. All I'm saying is with all the hype about Rivers I expected to see someone who was truly dominant at this level and I don't see that. Yes, he's a record-setter but you can throw that record book out the window. Doesn't mean much come Saturday. On Saturday, we're going to see how good he really is.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

And got their doors blown off in one.

A certain coach, not to name names, called a timeout and led the charge.

[Horror Child]

Yeah ... that happened in the past. Then the IUP Rule was introduced.

The PSAC scholarship limit been the same as the NCAA's for over ten years now.

[Horror Child]

I'm not interested in a 'my QB is better than your QB' contest. All I'm saying is with all the hype about Rivers I expected to see someone who was truly dominant at this level and I don't see that. Yes, he's a record-setter but you can throw that record book out the window. Doesn't mean much come Saturday. On Saturday, we're going to see how good he really is.

Saw him once last season when he threw 31 passes and only 9 were caught although only 6 of those were caught by his team mates.

[EastStroud13]

It's very comparable. It's exactly what the IUP Rule destroyed. IUP went to two national title games in the early 90s. If that wasn't implemented ... the past 30 years of PSAC football would look much different.

And got their doors blown off in one.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I'm not sure that's comparable. The landscape is vastly different and there were no national championships to show for it. Perhaps without the rule, IUP would have developed into such a national contender year in and year out.

It's very comparable. It's exactly what the IUP Rule destroyed. IUP went to two national title games in the early 90s. If that wasn't implemented ... the past 30 years of PSAC football would look much different.

[IUPNation]

I'm not sure that's comparable. The landscape is vastly different and there were no national championships to show for it. Perhaps without the rule, IUP would have developed into such a national contender year in and year out.

[IUPNation]

Rivers is good. He's not as good as you guys make him out to be.