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  • #46
    Originally posted by Saints Tailgating View Post

    How many Private D1 Schools have made the College Football Playoffs not named Notre Dame? .
    Your original question.

    Good job massaging the narrative in an effort of being correct though.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by BearFan1 View Post
      I am sorry Eagle74 but you are being a complete "A" hole.
      Naw, didn't mean to offend, just really tired of some Division 2 fans trying to drum up excuses as to why they believe the whole system is rigged to put their football program at a disadvantage. Contrary to some beliefs, in recruiting, it's amazing to hear about some of the unique (other) scholarship / funding / financial aid grant opportunities etc that can be drummed up when needed by schools (of all types) to assist in offsetting needs aside from the NCAA Division 2 partial scholarship limitations.

      As far as National Football Championships go, there are so many Public Institutions that have never come anywhere close to winning it, and their fans never complain or claim that things are unfair because certain schools have multiple championships.

      Also, not only schools, but players too have the option of being in divisions in which they feel they can better compete, be it Division 2, Division 3, or NAIA. No ones forcing any school to compete in a division that they feel they are put in a disadvantage. All schools have the opportunity to better fund their programs, including hiring the best possible coach to guide them to success.

      This is directed to all D2 fans, If you get the chance to ask your AD or coach if they're utilizing to max 36 football scholarships allotted by the NCAA, and they avoid or dodge the question, that may answer a few things about your program.

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      • #48
        This is a silly argument to be having, with respect to FBS programs.

        Obviously private schools Notre Dame, Miami and USC have been the best team in the country multiple times throughout history, playoff or no playoff.

        There are currently only 21 private schools at the FBS level, out of 131 programs. So the numbers don't favor them from the outset.

        There have only been eight CFP seasons, so the fact that only 1 of 32 teams has been private isn't a fluke when you consider USC & Miami were down most of that time.

        These FBS programs are all raking in tens of millions of dollars, public or private. They're all funding 85 scholarships. They're all capable of competing with Alabama, Clemson, or Ohio State. If Vanderbilt (Or Harvard or Princeton for that matter) decided tomorrow it wanted a $150 million dollar athletics budget, and half of that was football, they would be national contenders within a decade. Many don't choose to do that. That's not their priority, and that's OK. That doesn't mean there's an inherent disadvantage within the system.

        In any case, I will agree that below the FBS level, there's some sorting going on between private and public due to public funding. That's okay too. It's expensive to run a football program at any level, and those schools chose to compete at their current level for largely financial, but sometimes academically related, reasons.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by ccmoney8 View Post
          This is a silly argument to be having, with respect to FBS programs.

          Obviously private schools Notre Dame, Miami and USC have been the best team in the country multiple times throughout history, playoff or no playoff.

          There are currently only 21 private schools at the FBS level, out of 131 programs. So the numbers don't favor them from the outset.

          There have only been eight CFP seasons, so the fact that only 1 of 32 teams has been private isn't a fluke when you consider USC & Miami were down most of that time.

          These FBS programs are all raking in tens of millions of dollars, public or private. They're all funding 85 scholarships. They're all capable of competing with Alabama, Clemson, or Ohio State. If Vanderbilt (Or Harvard or Princeton for that matter) decided tomorrow it wanted a $150 million dollar athletics budget, and half of that was football, they would be national contenders within a decade. Many don't choose to do that. That's not their priority, and that's OK. That doesn't mean there's an inherent disadvantage within the system.

          In any case, I will agree that below the FBS level, there's some sorting going on between private and public due to public funding. That's okay too. It's expensive to run a football program at any level, and those schools chose to compete at their current level for largely financial, but sometimes academically related, reasons.
          100%

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