Dynasty Rankings 2000-Present (D2Football Era)

[canadarican]

1	Northwest Missouri	MIAA	777.85
2	Grand Valley	GLIAC	699.85
3	North Alabama	Division I	614.71
4	Valdosta State	GSC	582.80
5	Minnesota Duluth	NSIC	274.78
6	Ferris State	GLIAC	266.68
7	Delta State	GSC	245.67
8	North Dakota	Division I	216.79
9	Pittsburg State	MIAA	208.75
10	West Florida	GSC	205.72
11	Shepherd	PSAC	190.80
12	Minnesota State	NSIC	174.66
13	CSU-Pueblo	RMAC	148.78
14	Texas A&M-Commerce	Division I	140.53
15	Bloomsburg	PSAC	101.69
16	Colorado Mines	RMAC	96.70
17	California	PSAC	86.71
18	Lenoir-Rhyne	SAC	86.56
19	Winston-Salem	CIAA	82.65
20	West Chester	PSAC	72.65
21	IUP	PSAC	65.74
22	Carson-Newman	SAC	61.69
23	West Georgia	GSC	59.53
24	Wayne State (Mich.)	GLIAC	57.44
25	Slippery Rock	PSAC	56.68

This is after the 2023 first round games. For fun I'll update after each round.

[canadarican]

	Super Region 1		Total			Super Region 2		Total			Super Region 3		Total			Super Region 4		Total
1	Shepherd	PSAC	190.80		1	Valdosta State	GSC	582.80		1	Northwest Missouri	MIAA	777.85		1	Minnesota Duluth	NSIC	274.78
2	Bloomsburg	PSAC	101.69		2	Delta State	GSC	245.67		2	Grand Valley	GLIAC	699.85		2	Minnesota State	NSIC	174.66
3	California	PSAC	86.71		3	West Florida	GSC	205.72		3	Ferris State	GLIAC	266.68		3	CSU-Pueblo	RMAC	148.78
4	West Chester	PSAC	72.65		4	Lenoir-Rhyne	SAC	86.56		4	Pittsburg State	MIAA	208.75		4	Colorado Mines	RMAC	96.70
5	IUP	PSAC	65.74		5	Winston-Salem	CIAA	82.65		5	Wayne State (Mich.)	GLIAC	57.44		5	Texas A&M-Kingsville	LSC	53.53
6	Slippery Rock	PSAC	56.68		6	Carson-Newman	SAC	61.69		6	Harding	GAC	46.66		6	West Texas A&M	x	51.57
7	Notre Dame	MEC	39.65		7	West Georgia	GSC	59.53		7	Saginaw Valley	GLIAC	32.63		7	Central Washington	LSC	27.68
8	East Stroudsburg	PSAC	36.55		8	Catawba	SAC	38.56		8	Central Missouri	MIAA	21.68		8	Angelo State	LSC	24.52
9	Concord	MEC	24.39		9	Albany State	SIAC	23.67		9	Emporia State	MIAA	17.56		9	Chadron State	RMAC	23.67
10	Kutztown	PSAC	22.60		10	North Greenville	GSC	22.48		10	Indianapolis	GLVC	14.64		10	Augustana	NSIC	15.58

[Eagle74]

As teams fade from relevance, and based on past recruiting, today's potential high school football recruits tend to look at what teams programs, and coaches have accomplished in recent years. Going back more than 5 years makes things pretty much irrelevant, as they don't really care about how teams did back when they were infants or in elementary school.

What would the D2 chart look like based on the last 5 years? Also, please exclude teams which are no longer playing at the Division 2 level.

[canadarican]

Question, Do you want me to do past 5 full seasons and include 2023 or do past 4 plus 2023?

[Eagle74]

Either way would be much appreciated! By the way, I hope You and your Family have a great Thanksgiving week!

[canadarican]

Top 10 in each region from 2018-2023*

	Super Region 1		Total			Super Region 2		Total			Super Region 3		Total			Super Region 4		Total
1	Shepherd	PSAC	57.80		1	Valdosta State	GSC	176.84		1	Ferris State	GLIAC	318.91		1	Colorado Mines	RMAC	86.88
2	Slippery Rock	PSAC	43.83		2	West Florida	GSC	148.76		2	Grand Valley State	GLIAC	24.85		2	Minnesota State	NSIC	82.80
3	Notre Dame (OH)	MEC	39.84		3	Lenoir-Rhyne	SAC	27.83		3	NW Missouri State	MIAA	23.78		3	Angelo State	LSC	19.72
4	Kutztown	PSAC	17.82		4	BOWIE ST.	CIAA	16.76		4	Ouachita Baptist	GAC	10.88		4	Bemidji State	NSIC	12.75
5	New Haven	NE10	10.75		5	Wingate	SAC	16.73		5	Pittsburg State	MIAA	8.76		5	CSU-Pueblo	RMAC	9.73
6	IUP	PSAC	9.71		6	Delta State	GSC	8.62		6	Central Missouri	MIAA	8.60		6	Augustana (SD)	NSIC	6.74
7	Charleston (WV)	MEC	4.71		7	West Georgia	GSC	5.71		7	Harding	GAC	7.85		7	Central Washington	LSC	5.67
8	Ashland	GMAC	4.67		8	Newberry	SAC	4.60		8	Indianapolis	GLVC	7.80		8	Minnesota-Duluth	NSIC	2.79
9	Hillsdale	GMAC	4.56		9	Carson-Newman	SAC	4.52		9	Nebraska-Kearney	MIAA	4.58		9	Western Colorado	RMAC	2.59
10	TIFFIN	GMAC	2.80		10	VIRGINIA UNION	CIAA	2.75		10	Henderson State	GAC	1.70		10	Winona State	NSIC	1.63

This is updated including this past weekends playoff games. Could drastically change depending on this week.

Had to make a correction.

[Bearhof]

So it appears to me region two and especially the GSC have have about the best overall performance over this time frame. Last ten years is probably just as good. Interesting information and thanks for posting.

[canadarican]

So it appears to me region two and especially the GSC have have about the best overall performance over this time frame. Last ten years is probably just as good. Interesting information and thanks for posting.

Well then you add in Ferris. And if you go back 10 years a lot more Northwest.

[canadarican]

As teams fade from relevance, and based on past recruiting, today's potential high school football recruits tend to look at what teams programs, and coaches have accomplished in recent years. Going back more than 5 years makes things pretty much irrelevant, as they don't really care about how teams did back when they were infants or in elementary school.

What would the D2 chart look like based on the last 5 years? Also, please exclude teams which are no longer playing at the Division 2 level.

Depends on the kid. Rich history and tradition makes up for a lot. Example, what else would Michigan had to get kids when Harbaugh came? They were irrelevant since Appalachian State. You also gotta remember there are odd and end things kids like now when being recruited. Like kids picking schools based on uniforms, which happens a lot more than people want to admit. I think these original rankings also allow a total show foe the program. It's easy for a team to have 1 great year and four bleh years and it make it look like a top tier program.

[Bearhof]

So if LR wins Saturday and Valdosta loses Bears have best win % on your chart. I sure hope LR doesn’t lay an egg Saturday if you know what I mean. Curious if there’s one particular thing that stood out from your tour of Bears facilities.

[canadarican]

So if LR wins Saturday and Valdosta loses Bears have best win % on your chart. I sure hope LR doesn’t lay an egg Saturday if you know what I mean. Curious if there’s one particular thing that stood out from your tour of Bears facilities.

Maybe but it won't change that much in the rankings. W% is a small part of it. Playoff appearances and win's is what matters. Conference titles don't factor at all.

[Eagle74]

Depends on the kid. Rich history and tradition makes up for a lot. Example, what else would Michigan had to get kids when Harbaugh came? They were irrelevant since Appalachian State. You also gotta remember there are odd and end things kids like now when being recruited. Like kids picking schools based on uniforms, which happens a lot more than people want to admit. I think these original rankings also allow a total show foe the program. It's easy for a team to have 1 great year and four bleh years and it make it look like a top tier program.

One problem I see with the original charts is that they include programs which have been in a decline in recent years, and at this time, the prospects of improving is questionable. Two of them are WSSU and Catawba, with another couple that are borderline of falling into that same category.

[canadarican]

One problem I see with the original charts is that they include programs which have been in a decline in recent years, and at this time, the prospects of improving is questionable. Two of them are WSSU and Catawba, with another couple that are borderline of falling into that same category.

wSSu I'd agree with. some (not me) think they only had the success they did because of dropping down from FCS. Idk if I buy that. But outside of Bowie I don't give anyone in the CIAA credence moving forward. bowie actually won playoff games against SR2 competition. The others just got embarrassed.

If you watched Catawba this year and dont think they are improving then I disagree. They were an absolute doormat from 2018 to 2022. But again, historical success matters to some kids.

[canadarican]

The SR2 chart could look insanely different in a few years with UWG moving up, and then people being convinced UWF and VSU are next. And with 2025 potential regional realignment who knows.

The one thing I don't care foCain my formula is sometimes 1 or 2 really good years can alter it. Like Wayne State making 1 title game, but 1 playoff appearance. Or making the playoffs twice in 20 years but not doing anything the rest. But that's OK. I can deal w it

[canadarican]

Curious if there’s one particular thing that stood out from your tour of Bears facilities.

Yeah there was. I don't think you sat down the entire game hahaha!