Percentage of Portals that actually change teams

[FootballCoach]

Side note SAC history made on May 15 by LR softball team. First conference team to go to World Series by beating defending national champion North Georgia 3-11 6-4 9-1.

Delete your comment back to me? Got the notification and nothing was there... Realize I was right?

[Bearhof]

Side note SAC history made on May 15 by LR softball team. First conference team to go to World Series by beating defending national champion North Georgia 3-11 6-4 9-1.

[FootballCoach]

Kyle played in seven games his last year. Great young man and very deserving of his pro career.

Yes. An amazing person and player. He played in 7 of 14 before he was sidelined with an injury. That's 50% of the games that season. I wouldn't call that playing a ton. And if I remember correctly, you and your "amigos" HECKLED him enough about NOT playing so much that he stopped standing on the sidelines during games. Just another reason that he wants nothing to do with LR.

[Bearhof]

Kyle played in seven games his last year. Great young man and very deserving of his pro career.

[BlazerLady]

What many of you and not talking about is when a new coaching staff come in, they are not invested in the kids already at the school. They are already planning on getting rid of kids and bringing in their own. Many times it has nothing to do with talents but lack of opportunity. I have heard from kids that sat and waiting their turn, new staff come in and tell them I looking to see who I can get rid of to bring in my guys. So what is a kid to do sit there knowing they won't get an opportunity or try to go elsewhere whether not they get picked up. This is what college sports is now.

Or when a coach leaves and players leave to follow the coach. Seems like we have lost coaches about every 3 years recently. Some coaches too are not committed to staying at a school for very long. Hope Coach Jack stays longer.

[FootballCoach]

Appreciate all the feedback on this subject. The new coach coming in is a stretch for leaving because you would be going to a new coach. If Kyle Duggar had transferred I don’t think he would’ve been invited to the senior bowl and drafted #37.

Kyle Duggar barely played his senior year lol I don’t think it mattered where he played at. He balled out in the senior bowl and combine and that’s what got him drafted. As long as he did enough to get picked by the senior bowl then he would have been just fine

[Bearhof]

Appreciate all the feedback on this subject. The new coach coming in is a stretch for leaving because you would be going to a new coach. If Kyle Duggar had transferred I don’t think he would’ve been invited to the senior bowl and drafted #37.

[Just a fan 73]

I am not talking about one team nor just one level, I seen and heard it on all level of college football. Unfortunately, many of these kids make decision based on their position coach instead of the school. I am pretty sure some of us have worked for a company thinking it was the best for us at that time but find out it not, so what you do look for something different. Many of these kids are just looking for something different. I have a son in that situation and like anything else I tell him it is something he can learn from, but he will go to the next school that is the best fit for him with or without a scholarship and he will be able to get a try-out because of family bloodline that have and are playing in the NFL.

[BearFan1]

I would believe the "new stepparent" situation is true in turn around situations. But where the team just went to the National Semifinals, I would not think that is the case most of the time. I can not imagine that anyone would not want the returning All Americans or even returning All Conference players to stay in place.

Football is not like Basketball or even Baseball where one or two players can make all the difference in the world.
What I have heard from some (not many), just a couple of LR players is that the new coaching staff is really serious about doing the necessary things completely correct, and doing it all the time.
You know that John Wooden started each year teaching his players how to put their shoes own and how to tie their laces. So their feet did not take them out of the game.

[canadarican]

What many of you and not talking about is when a new coaching staff come in, they are not invested in the kids already at the school.

THIS. Not always true but most of the time is unfortunately true. IDK if I'd compare it to the "new stepparent" approach I've had some compare it to, but it's not drastically off.

[Just a fan 73]

What many of you and not talking about is when a new coaching staff come in, they are not invested in the kids already at the school. They are already planning on getting rid of kids and bringing in their own. Many times it has nothing to do with talents but lack of opportunity. I have heard from kids that sat and waiting their turn, new staff come in and tell them I looking to see who I can get rid of to bring in my guys. So what is a kid to do sit there knowing they won't get an opportunity or try to go elsewhere whether not they get picked up. This is what college sports is now.

[BearFan1]

I really appreciate the thoughts that have been expressed by all that have posted in this thread. As do most of you, I have mixed feelings about the portal, mostly agreeing that if the coaches can move at the drop of a hat, so should the players have the opportunity to improve their lot in life and in sport.

Where I find it a bit unfair is the "blame" that may unfairly be placed on the "new" coaching staff (acknowledging that they moved to the new school for some reason).
I also think Bearof made an important point much earlier about what the "leaving" player may be giving up when they chose to leave a program. Let me point out one such player.

What John Ross Maye has contributed to Lenoir Rhyne is without out a doubt most significant. From day one on campus his contributions have been lights out good. On and off the field. And yes he stayed four years, albeit one was a shorten year. I hope that his choice to enter the portal for a one year step up in playing level does not unduly dim the appreciation that all LR fans should have for him.

More specifically, do I believe this portal move will be the spring board to the NFL. NO, I do not.
Do I believe he can and will have success at the next level? Yes I do.
Do I believe that at some time down the road will he look back and have regrets about this move? Yes I do.
Will it keep JR Maye from LR Hall of Fame recognition? Unfortunately, most likely.

25 plus years ago, my older son was being denied the the chance to be a running back at a very good 1A program for one and only one reason. Skin color.
His junior year the day before the first practice he and I made the decision to move him to the the neighboring 3A school. His senior year he obtained a scholarship as a running back. That would not have happened if he stayed at the 1A program. No doubt. No chance.

He and I still, at times, discuss if it was the right thing to do. We know what he obtained. We do not know what he gave up. That 1A team with him at Linebacker and sometimes offensive player might have won the State Championship rather than being narrowly eliminated in the 3rd round. We do not know if we made the correct decision, in the long term. Short term, we absolutely made the correct decision.

I do not know the financial circumstance of any of the young men and their families that are making these portal decisions. But I would imagine it comes to play in many of their situations. For all the elements that come into play, one that has received very little attention is the role that the institutions play, either through their allocation of resources or their willingness/ability to raise the necessary funds to address the scholarship ability.

I for one have said that I believe the idea of a D2 programs with 100 dressed out players, most of which have little to no institutional financial support, hoping to make up in quantity what the recruiting ability lacks in quality, is probably very short sighted.

Once I went to a Starmount vs Mt Airy game. Walking by Bear Coach Hollingsworth I said to him.. "OMG look at all those Starmount players, (about 80 compared to Mt Airys 28)" to which Coach Hollingsworth said "yea but they can't put but 11 on the field at the time, and our 11 are better than their 11". He was right.

[Eagle74]

I had a chat with a friend about the football transfer portal as it applies to D2 schools, and how I hear more and more that some aren't picked up by other schools.

His comments opened my eyes quite a bit. He said that some players are fully aware that they basically don't have a realistic chance of landing at another school, but declaring for the transfer portal is a way of 'saving face' for when a player no longer wants to play for a program, no longer wants to attend the college they're enrolled at, financially can no longer afford to attend the school, homesick, and in some cases, no longer want to play football at all. " Yea I played football at ______ but ended up entering the transfer portal for other potential better opportunities, however, with so many entering at that time, that didn't work out like we had planned". It's become an easy out.

[canadarican]

Some random thoughts while taking a dump:

• I don't remember the exact number, but a few years back (within 1 or 2 maybe) the NCAA put out a stat that 85-88% of players who enter the portal never find a new "home". That is alarming.
• That being said, I am 100% in favor of the players doing what they truly believe is the best for them. The coaches do it and will leave for a better opportunity almost at the drop of the hat. To me, it's undeniably wrong for players to not have the same opportunity.
• NIL and the transfer portal will even out one day, but the money stuff has always been going on. It's just above the table now and for some dudes (especially at the FBS level) this is lifechanging money.
• I'm not in love with the current transfer rules (see 1st bullet point), but I understand them. I mostly dislike it because working with students everyday, I hate when they leave because I care about them. But I also want them to do what is best for them and their family longterm, especially if an opportunity arises.
• However, I think there are wayyyyy too many Other folks putting insane thoughts in some players heads and overvaluing their skillsets like you see with travel ball or rec league for example. There are way to many dudes being told absolute garbage by people around them.

my thoughts may change tomorrow, but I think that's what I lean today.

[Bearhof]

Football Scoop gives some disturbing statistics on players being left without a scholarship and unable to compete. 8 percent even end up as a walk on. The risk being taken by most of these players to go in the portal has not been a very good experience. Only the very best players are able to better their situation it appears to me.