GVSU vs. Ferris

[Irish1916]

Special teams win it again. Matt Mitchell's Lakers screw up and Tony's Bull Dogs execute to win by 10.

[Mk63NuclearBomb]

Can we talk about the game

[KleShreen]

I get it. and I'm not seeing the humor, though it's no big deal..But I also expect a conference to display accurate information. You can write a thesis on this if you want. I'll just say that what I see on the GLIAC sight is in error. That's a fact. How the GLIAC gets the info is not up to the MTU, LSS or whoever. It's up to the GLIAC. And since you know exactly how it works, please suggest to the GLIAC to fix it. Putting the info on the laps of the institutions... and worse yet.. the software that the institution uses is wrong. So if MTU puts up that they are playing Valdosta next week, the GLIAC site will show that? The hosting entity has the responsibility to provide correct information. If they can't, then they shouldn't put anything up.

I don't get why you're supporting the GLIAC. It's pretty obvious that the GLIAC dropped the ball here. Why the GLIAC is showing what they are might be interesting... but it's still in error.

Yes. Michigan Tech can put up on their website that they are playing Valdosta next week and it will show up on the GLIAC website.

Since Ferris' site (along with the other Presto schools) directly link with the GLIAC website, the GLIAC can not remove those games because it would then also remove them from the Ferris website. What needs to be done is the conference schools need to get together and agree on a universal set of standards for their schedule pages. Either include the postseason or don't include it. As it is, they each have their own autonomy to do what they want. Some schools put the postseason matchups there without knowing if they'll be there just as a placeholder. Other schools don't do it because they think it is a "jinx". For example, SVSU's women's soccer could add the remaining rounds of the women's soccer tournament on their schedule page if they want and they would automatically show up on the GLIAC website. But they are going game-by-game and not putting it on their schedule until they know their opponent. That's their own operating procedure. Ferris chooses to put the football tournament dates up and then fill the opponent in as they go, and delete the games they don't reach when the time comes. That's their operating procedure. Take it up with the Ferris sports information staff if you don't feel it should be like that. Not the GLIAC. The GVSU sports information staff could manually go in and add the same rounds to the GLIAC website if they wanted, but they choose not to for whatever reason.

I'm defending the GLIAC because for as often as they do stuff wrong, this has nothing to do with them. It is not their responsibility to maintain the schedules for anything besides GLIAC tournaments. It is the school's agreed-upon responsibility. It has been that way for at least 8 years. The GLIAC and schools agreed to this so the schools could have autonomy on their own websites and prioritize those over the conference website. All the conference does is harvest the information from the school websites. Not the other way around.

[Redwing]

No....you're not getting it lol.

The schools have autonomy do whatever they want with the schedules on their own website. If schools want to put the future playoff rounds in on their website, they can. That's their choice to do so.

The GLIAC is a Presto website. Ferris State, Lake Superior State, Michigan Tech, Northwood, SVSU are all Presto websites. Since they are Presto websites, they connect directly with the conference website and their schedules and results get posted automatically on both websites. That's why Ferris' football playoff rounds show up on the GLIAC website. Because they are on the Ferris website and automatically transfer over since they are both using the same backend system.

Davenport, GVSU, Northern Michigan, Purdue-Northwest, Wayne State, Wisconsin-Parkside are all Sidearm. Those schools have to manually log in to the GLIAC website and transfer their schedules over manually. Some schools choose to duplicate what is on their own athletics website, some schools do it differently because of the differences between the two website backends. It depends what they are comfortable with. Many schools will put those postseason rounds on their school website just so fans of those schools can know those dates in advance and plan accordingly. The schools have no reason to do that on the GLIAC website because the school fans are most likely not going to go look at the conference website for information about the school.

The GLIAC has nothing to do with the schedules on their own website besides when it comes to actual GLIAC Tournaments. What you see on the schedules on the GLIAC website all come from the individual schools.

I did this exact work for nearly 10 years. I know exactly how it works lol. I was the actual person putting the schedules on school websites and then also the conference website.

I get it. and I'm not seeing the humor, though it's no big deal..But I also expect a conference to display accurate information. You can write a thesis on this if you want. I'll just say that what I see on the GLIAC sight is in error. That's a fact. How the GLIAC gets the info is not up to the MTU, LSS or whoever. It's up to the GLIAC. And since you know exactly how it works, please suggest to the GLIAC to fix it. Putting the info on the laps of the institutions... and worse yet.. the software that the institution uses is wrong. So if MTU puts up that they are playing Valdosta next week, the GLIAC site will show that? The hosting entity has the responsibility to provide correct information. If they can't, then they shouldn't put anything up.

I don't get why you're supporting the GLIAC. It's pretty obvious that the GLIAC dropped the ball here. Why the GLIAC is showing what they are might be interesting... but it's still in error.

[KleShreen]

Whatever, i don't care how valid the reason is. The conference has the responsibility to put out correct information. So if GV used Presto, what team would be in that slot? Are the Bsdogs the only GLIAC team using Presto? If so..hmm, sounds like the GLIAC is kissing up to the Bsdogs then, no? ;-)

No....you're not getting it lol.

The schools have autonomy do whatever they want with the schedules on their own website. If schools want to put the future playoff rounds in on their website, they can. That's their choice to do so.

The GLIAC is a Presto website. Ferris State, Lake Superior State, Michigan Tech, Northwood, SVSU are all Presto websites. Since they are Presto websites, they connect directly with the conference website and their schedules and results get posted automatically on both websites. That's why Ferris' football playoff rounds show up on the GLIAC website. Because they are on the Ferris website and automatically transfer over since they are both using the same backend system.

Davenport, GVSU, Northern Michigan, Purdue-Northwest, Wayne State, Wisconsin-Parkside are all Sidearm. Those schools have to manually log in to the GLIAC website and transfer their schedules over manually. Some schools choose to duplicate what is on their own athletics website, some schools do it differently because of the differences between the two website backends. It depends what they are comfortable with. Many schools will put those postseason rounds on their school website just so fans of those schools can know those dates in advance and plan accordingly. The schools have no reason to do that on the GLIAC website because the school fans are most likely not going to go look at the conference website for information about the school.

The GLIAC has nothing to do with the schedules on their own website besides when it comes to actual GLIAC Tournaments. What you see on the schedules on the GLIAC website all come from the individual schools.

I did this exact work for nearly 10 years. I know exactly how it works lol. I was the actual person putting the schedules on school websites and then also the conference website.

[4nick8]

It's just an example of the incompetence/ laziness of the GLIAC leadership

Time to whip the doggies in their house! Go Lakers

[Redwing]

Because GVSU does not use a Presto website. They use Sidearm, so there's no connection between the GVSU website and the GLIAC website. GVSU staff has to manually go in to the GLIAC website and add their own schedules to the GLIAC website. They chose not to do that. Some schools do it, some don't. Just a matter of preference.

Whatever, i don't care how valid the reason is. The conference has the responsibility to put out correct information. So if GV used Presto, what team would be in that slot? Are the Bsdogs the only GLIAC team using Presto? If so..hmm, sounds like the GLIAC is kissing up to the Bsdogs then, no? ;-)

[Redwing]

I find it odd that GVSU also has the games on their schedule yet they are not listed as is the Ferris schedule? Perhaps GVSU kicking the GLIAC to the curb has them feeling pissy.

Yeah, that line that the PO games aren't on the schedule is old, and inaccurate. Then it has to be by a specific company. Sure, yup. Like they say though, games aren't won on paper.

[KleShreen]

I find it odd that GVSU also has the games on their schedule yet they are not listed as is the Ferris schedule? Perhaps GVSU kicking the GLIAC to the curb has them feeling pissy.

Because GVSU does not use a Presto website. They use Sidearm, so there's no connection between the GVSU website and the GLIAC website. GVSU staff has to manually go in to the GLIAC website and add their own schedules to the GLIAC website. They chose not to add the games they didn't have an opponent for yet. Some schools do it, some don't. Just a matter of preference.

[D2 Dad]

[D2 Dad]

NO ITS A CONSPIRACYYY THE GAME IS FIXED FROM THE START /s

[MrsThortonMelon]

The GLIAC has nothing to do with the schedule pages on their website. The schools maintain their own schedules, and then the GLIAC website pulls from the school websites if the school websites are Presto just like the GLIAC is. And if the school doesn't use a Presto website, then the school has to manually go in and add their schedule to the GLIAC website.

That is only there because Ferris chooses to list all possible playoff games on their own website, and so the GLIAC website automatically pulls in that schedule.

I find it odd that GVSU also has the games on their schedule yet they are not listed as is the Ferris schedule? Perhaps GVSU kicking the GLIAC to the curb has them feeling pissy.

[KleShreen]

The GLIAC has nothing to do with the schedule pages on their website. The schools maintain their own schedules, and then the GLIAC website pulls from the school websites if the school websites are Presto just like the GLIAC is. And if the school doesn't use a Presto website, then the school has to manually go in and add their schedule to the GLIAC website.

That is only there because Ferris chooses to list all possible playoff games on their own website, and so the GLIAC website automatically pulls in that schedule.

[yote_7]

The website scrapes schedules from the school sites, and Ferris is the only school in the conference that puts future playoff games on the schedule. I swear there's a thread about this from '18 or '19 but I can't be bothered to find it.

NO ITS A CONSPIRACYYY THE GAME IS FIXED FROM THE START /s

[Mk63NuclearBomb]

The website scrapes schedules from the school sites, and Ferris is the only school in the conference that puts future playoff games on the schedule. I swear there's a thread about this from '18 or '19 but I can't be bothered to find it.