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  • #46
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    • #47
      My look through google, twitter, instagram at U Indy commits...

      Negative: U Indy needed DLs and TEs that could play right away and be "difference makers". I don't see that in their commitments found on twitter and instagram. Also they were successful with so many commits that there isn't much room for transfers. So likely that's still not a strategy they are using yet. If I were a transfer TE or DL I'd contact them.

      Positive: Looks like they are taking team speed to a new level for the GLVC. This year they look heavy on the DBs and ATHs. Bringing guys in from six states and did well in Cincinnati and STL and very very well in Chicago.

      This is a big class. I'm guessing 40 plus.

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      • #48
        My rant: U Indy recruiting strategy continues to be getting prep players and developing them over 4-5 years rather than actively going after transfers. Coach Keevers even brought it up at pressers when he was hired. It seems the only transfers they have are guys they had originally recruited or guys that come knocking on their door.

        The problem with relying on 4-5 year development is that you need to plan 3-5 years ahead of time without knowing what holes you'll have to fill in the future. I see the teams that bring in a lot of transfers can fill a need within a year with an older, developed and experienced transfer that has demonstrated his ability on a JUCO or CC team or at another NCAA school. And most of the JUCO and CC transfers are guys that were big on talent but NCAA academic nonqualifiers coming out of prep school.

        I understand how much better the team culture is on a team full of the 4-5 year guys. I just don't see how schools, especially privates like U Indy, can compete versus teams that actively go after transfers.

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        • #49
          I think over the last few years they had two CC transfers and had 3 D-1 transfers. 1 D-1 transfer got a lot of PT on the DL & the others (DB’s) couldn’t beat out what the had. And it’s early all those guys came in after school was out so we won’t know who they may p/u until camp starts. They have depth at DB (4 R/S freshmen played a lot and will have 3 years of eligibility left. They have 4 LB’s that got a lot of time (undersized) that have 2-3 years of eligibility left. (All can run and tackle well) and they have depth there w/ a couple of freshmen that could get a lot of time? They have some young (freshmen and R/S sophomore) that could fill some holes.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by michiganfb View Post
            My rant: U Indy recruiting strategy continues to be getting prep players and developing them over 4-5 years rather than actively going after transfers. Coach Keevers even brought it up at pressers when he was hired. It seems the only transfers they have are guys they had originally recruited or guys that come knocking on their door.

            The problem with relying on 4-5 year development is that you need to plan 3-5 years ahead of time without knowing what holes you'll have to fill in the future. I see the teams that bring in a lot of transfers can fill a need within a year with an older, developed and experienced transfer that has demonstrated his ability on a JUCO or CC team or at another NCAA school. And most of the JUCO and CC transfers are guys that were big on talent but NCAA academic nonqualifiers coming out of prep school.

            I understand how much better the team culture is on a team full of the 4-5 year guys. I just don't see how schools, especially privates like U Indy, can compete versus teams that actively go after transfers.
            Teams have consistently won over and over and over with high school players and great cultures, especially in D2. Maybe that's changing. I don't know. But I actually believe a roster of 93 program players and seven transfers is probably the best chance at success for Indianapolis.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Brandon View Post

              Teams have consistently won over and over and over with high school players and great cultures, especially in D2. Maybe that's changing. I don't know. But I actually believe a roster of 93 program players and seven transfers is probably the best chance at success for Indianapolis.
              I would even agree if in those seven transfers U Indy actively went out and looked for what they need ready to play the next season. Again, it seems their transfers come knocking on U Indy's door and could be any position whether there is a need or not.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Pigeon 13 View Post
                I think over the last few years they had two CC transfers and had 3 D-1 transfers. 1 D-1 transfer got a lot of PT on the DL & the others (DB’s) couldn’t beat out what the had. And it’s early all those guys came in after school was out so we won’t know who they may p/u until camp starts. They have depth at DB (4 R/S freshmen played a lot and will have 3 years of eligibility left. They have 4 LB’s that got a lot of time (undersized) that have 2-3 years of eligibility left. (All can run and tackle well) and they have depth there w/ a couple of freshmen that could get a lot of time? They have some young (freshmen and R/S sophomore) that could fill some holes.
                Seems their defense is a year or two away from being a strength. I think the overall game plan for 2020 is that the offense keeps possession and eats clock to win games.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by michiganfb View Post

                  I would even agree if in those seven transfers U Indy actively went out and looked for what they need ready to play the next season. Again, it seems their transfers come knocking on U Indy's door and could be any position whether there is a need or not.
                  Yeah. You have to hit on the transfers, especially if you give them a lot of money.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by michiganfb View Post
                    My rant: U Indy recruiting strategy continues to be getting prep players and developing them over 4-5 years rather than actively going after transfers. Coach Keevers even brought it up at pressers when he was hired. It seems the only transfers they have are guys they had originally recruited or guys that come knocking on their door.

                    The problem with relying on 4-5 year development is that you need to plan 3-5 years ahead of time without knowing what holes you'll have to fill in the future. I see the teams that bring in a lot of transfers can fill a need within a year with an older, developed and experienced transfer that has demonstrated his ability on a JUCO or CC team or at another NCAA school. And most of the JUCO and CC transfers are guys that were big on talent but NCAA academic nonqualifiers coming out of prep school.

                    I understand how much better the team culture is on a team full of the 4-5 year guys. I just don't see how schools, especially privates like U Indy, can compete versus teams that actively go after transfers.
                    Keeping up with the Joneses here's Grand Valley:

                    We lost some key players in the secondary and felt like we needed some immediate contributors through either transfers or junior college players,” said Mitchell. “All four of our defensive transfers have been significant contributors at their previous stops and just needed a change.
                    Also Grand Valley signed 6 out of Indiana mainly the Indy Metro area. Interesting it looks like U Indy offered only one of those six and he wasn't local.

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