Regional Rankings

[GorillaTeacher]

No, but it will be right at .500 in the end. What seems to change more, which is why Pitt is #2 over OBU, imo, is our wins over .500 teams.

I guess Ouachita is pretty low on their SOS currently. But everyone knows it will be .500 in the end.

[Predatory Primates]

Absolutely disagree. Their SOS is at a level that's seldom seen, and they'll be adding undefeated Davenport to that. I also don't think they'll be punished for only nine D2 games. I really don't think they'll be punished for the lack of in-region games when two of the conferences with which they're competing make it nearly impossible to schedule no-conference in-region games. In-region is a ridiculously stupid data point anyway.

In region never made any sense to me. Why discourage teams from traveling and filling schedules?

[the Northeasterner]

I know in theory it ends up being .500 At end of season. But does that stay same through out whole season ?

[Brandon]

I don't think they will get left out either...and honestly don't believe they should with 2 losses, but i do think Davenport would have to be above them...so they WOULD be on the bubble...just funny to think about. And if you look at the numbers, they would agree, i think.

Your last sentence is so true...except that everything at the DII level is based on regionalization. I agree completely...i just think we are both wrong...it is a selection criteria in *almost* every team sport the NCAA sponsors a championship for in DII...may be a stupid data point, but it is a key data point, nonetheless.

It doesn't have to be used and I don't think it is being used. Everyone agrees that football is different and in-region doesn't make sense with a maximum of 11 data points.

[Pistols_33]

Absolutely disagree. Their SOS is at a level that's seldom seen, and they'll be adding undefeated Davenport to that. I also don't think they'll be punished for only nine D2 games. I really don't think they'll be punished for the lack of in-region games when two of the conferences with which they're competing make it nearly impossible to schedule no-conference in-region games. In-region is a ridiculously stupid data point anyway.

I don't think they will get left out either...and honestly don't believe they should with 2 losses, but i do think Davenport would have to be above them...so they WOULD be on the bubble...just funny to think about. And if you look at the numbers, they would agree, i think.

Your last sentence is so true...except that everything at the DII level is based on regionalization. I agree completely...i just think we are both wrong...it is a selection criteria in *almost* every team sport the NCAA sponsors a championship for in DII...may be a stupid data point, but it is a key data point, nonetheless.

[Brandon]

Harding has two teams left to play under.500. that could affect their percentage

It will be precisely .500.

[Brandon]

IIRC they still rank them, but 5,6,7 are interchangeable wrt their region and opponent with the intent to reduce conference rematches and flights in the first and second round. It’s why Kearney got moved out west last year, and central Washington was moved into SR3.

The teams are either seeded 1,2,3, or 4 or considered unseeded.

[Brandon]

If Ferris loses to Davenport, they might be on that bubble...only played 9 D2 games, and Central Washington COULD be below .500 by the end of the year, and Lenoir-Rhyne is gonna be 6-5 i think...so their strength of schedule won't be that great either...could you put them in with only 5 in-region wins compared to silos who would all have 9 in-region wins? Wowsers.

Absolutely disagree. Their SOS is at a level that's seldom seen, and they'll be adding undefeated Davenport to that. I also don't think they'll be punished for only nine D2 games. I really don't think they'll be punished for the lack of in-region games when two of the conferences with which they're competing make it nearly impossible to schedule no-conference in-region games. In-region is a ridiculously stupid data point anyway.

[Brandon]

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/footba...ional-rankings

Well it looks like they have ESU at #9 and NWMSU at #10. Harding is the #8.

I just don’t see the winner of the ESU/NWMSU not getting the #7 spot if Ouachita wins out. SOS has to be over Harding. Truman/Indy are #6/#7 but one has to lose still.

SOS of ESU/NW/Harding will all be .500.

[the Northeasterner]

Harding has two teams left to play under.500. that could affect their percentage

[Predatory Primates]

7-2 teams all play silo. Harding, NW and ESU all have 2-2 record against >.500. Harding, NW and ESU beat 6-3 teams. NW, ESU lost to 9-0 and 5-4 teams. Harding lost to 9-0 and 7-2 teams. Henderson is 2-1 against >.500. They beat 7-2 team and 6-3 team. They lost to 6-3 team and 4-5 team. Just a guess.

One of Indy/Truman will likely finish with 2 losses while the other will only have one.

[GorillaTeacher]

It’s a decision made by the football committee. What the regional advisory committees and the national committee have been told is that nothing will change in regards to selections. Seven teams are still going to be selected from each of the four Super Regions and that process will not change. It’s only once the national committee starts to bracket: seeds 1-4 will stay in what we’ll call their home region. Seeds 5, 6 and 7 are basically at large teams and not seeded and can be placed anywhere on the bracket that can reduce the number of flights.

IIRC they still rank them, but 5,6,7 are interchangeable wrt their region and opponent with the intent to reduce conference rematches and flights in the first and second round. It’s why Kearney got moved out west last year, and central Washington was moved into SR3.

[GrifFan]

Convince them you're in western Pennsylvania...

Just pencil that H on the end!

[Pistols_33]

If Ferris loses to Davenport, they might be on that bubble...only played 9 D2 games, and Central Washington COULD be below .500 by the end of the year, and Lenoir-Rhyne is gonna be 6-5 i think...so their strength of schedule won't be that great either...could you put them in with only 5 in-region wins compared to silos who would all have 9 in-region wins? Wowsers.

[CatFan88]

I'm struggling to understand what they did with the 7-2 teams.

7-2 teams all play silo. Harding, NW and ESU all have 2-2 record against >.500. Harding, NW and ESU beat 6-3 teams. NW, ESU lost to 9-0 and 5-4 teams. Harding lost to 9-0 and 7-2 teams. Henderson is 2-1 against >.500. They beat 7-2 team and 6-3 team. They lost to 6-3 team and 4-5 team. Just a guess.