Week 4 Region 4 Playoff Rankings

[Casual_Observer]

This is after 4 Games

This poll is using the statistics that the NCAA identifies: D2 %, SOS, D2 Road, D2 vs.500, In Region % then there are bonuses given for In region wins and penalties for losses. (This formula was fairly close to final from last year).:
1.) MN Duluth
2.) Colorado Mines
3.) MN State
4.) Midwestern State
5.) Tarleton State
6.) CSU - Pueblo
7.) Central Washington
8.) Colorado Mesa
9.) Azusa Pacific
10.) Sioux Falls
11.) Chadron State
12.) Dixie State
13.) St Cloud
14.) Bemidji State
15.) Moorhead State
16.) Angelo State
17.) Texas A&M Commerce

Set of numbers based on In Region W%+SOS+Overall D2 W%+D2 Road %:

1.) MN Duluth - .879
2.) Colorado Mines - .837
3.) CSU - Pueblo - .825 - SOS is pushing Pueblo
4.) MN State - .823
5.) Midwestern State - .817
6.) Azusa Pacific - .763
7.) Tarleton State - .705
8.) Dixie State - .689
9.) Central Washington - .683
10.) Chadron State - .665
11.) Sioux Falls - .659
12.) St Cloud - .652
13.) Colorado Mesa - .641
14.) Bemidji State - .641
15.) Moorhead State - .641
16.) Angelo State - .607
17.) TX A&M Commerce -.594

Using Just Performance Index:
1.) MN Duluth - 20.5
2.) CSU - Pueblo - 19
3.) Colorado Mines - 18.25
4.) MN State - 18.25
5.) Midwestern State - 17
6.) Azusa Pacific - 16
7.) Central Washington - 15.33
8.) Dixie State - 14.75
9.) Tarleton State - 14.67
10.) Chadron State - 14.5

[Wildcat Khan]

Re: Week 4 Region 4 Playoff Rankings

This is after 4 Games

This poll is using the statistics that the NCAA identifies: D2 %, SOS, D2 Road, D2 vs.500, In Region % then there are bonuses given for In region wins and penalties for losses. (This formula was fairly close to final from last year).:
1.) MN Duluth
2.) Colorado Mines
3.) MN State
4.) Midwestern State
5.) Tarleton State
6.) CSU - Pueblo
7.) Central Washington
8.) Colorado Mesa
9.) Azusa Pacific
10.) Sioux Falls
11.) Chadron State
12.) Dixie State
13.) St Cloud
14.) Bemidji State
15.) Moorhead State
16.) Angelo State
17.) Texas A&M Commerce

Set of numbers based on In Region W%+SOS+Overall D2 W%+D2 Road %:

1.) MN Duluth - .879
2.) Colorado Mines - .837
3.) CSU - Pueblo - .825 - SOS is pushing Pueblo
4.) MN State - .823
5.) Midwestern State - .817
6.) Azusa Pacific - .763
7.) Tarleton State - .705
8.) Dixie State - .689
9.) Central Washington - .683
10.) Chadron State - .665
11.) Sioux Falls - .659
12.) St Cloud - .652
13.) Colorado Mesa - .641
14.) Bemidji State - .641
15.) Moorhead State - .641
16.) Angelo State - .607
17.) TX A&M Commerce -.594

Using Just Performance Index:
1.) MN Duluth - 20.5
2.) CSU - Pueblo - 19
3.) Colorado Mines - 18.25
4.) MN State - 18.25
5.) Midwestern State - 17
6.) Azusa Pacific - 16
7.) Central Washington - 15.33
8.) Dixie State - 14.75
9.) Tarleton State - 14.67
10.) Chadron State - 14.5

Are you counting CWU's loss? It was an FCS one so just making sure it isn't counted as it wouldn't be counted by the NCAA and I notice you have a 1-loss APU above them in Win%+SOS. I know you've been pretty accurate in the past and just wanting to know how APU ended up 3 spots above CWU there.

[JavsFan]

Re: Week 4 Region 4 Playoff Rankings

Are you counting CWU's loss? It was an FCS one so just making sure it isn't counted as it wouldn't be counted by the NCAA and I notice you have a 1-loss APU above them in Win%+SOS. I know you've been pretty accurate in the past and just wanting to know how APU ended up 3 spots above CWU there.

Does North Alabama count as an FCS school in the calculations?

[Wildcat Khan]

Re: Week 4 Region 4 Playoff Rankings

Does North Alabama count as an FCS school in the calculations?

That actually is a good question as they are in transition. That leads though to my question, shouldn't they both be tied instead? They've both beat the same teams in conference play with only each other left to play. How are they 3 spots above CWU and not tied? I know SFU's first win this year doesn't count, but saying that as I think they will pick up a GNAC win this year too.

[cougarjunkie]

Re: Week 4 Region 4 Playoff Rankings

Are you counting CWU's loss? It was an FCS one so just making sure it isn't counted as it wouldn't be counted by the NCAA and I notice you have a 1-loss APU above them in Win%+SOS. I know you've been pretty accurate in the past and just wanting to know how APU ended up 3 spots above CWU there.

That actually is a good question as they are in transition. That leads though to my question, shouldn't they both be tied instead? They've both beat the same teams in conference play with only each other left to play. How are they 3 spots above CWU and not tied? I know SFU's first win this year doesn't count, but saying that as I think they will pick up a GNAC win this year too.

[Casual_Observer]

Re: Week 4 Region 4 Playoff Rankings

Are you counting CWU's loss? It was an FCS one so just making sure it isn't counted as it wouldn't be counted by the NCAA and I notice you have a 1-loss APU above them in Win%+SOS. I know you've been pretty accurate in the past and just wanting to know how APU ended up 3 spots above CWU there.

As I said, for the first set W% is D2 W% as this is what is used by NCAA. For the second set, I use overall D2 W% and D2 In-Region W%.

I did not include North Alabama wins in losses as I am not 100% sure how they would be treated (Will no more when the first official ranking comes out). My assumption is the game does not count since they are transitioning to FCS now.

[Wildcat Khan]

Re: Week 4 Region 4 Playoff Rankings

As I said, for the first set W% is D2 W% as this is what is used by NCAA. For the second set, I use overall D2 W% and D2 In-Region W%.

I did not include North Alabama wins in losses as I am not 100% sure how they would be treated (Will no more when the first official ranking comes out). My assumption is the game does not count since they are transitioning to FCS now.

Thank you, I'm with you on not knowing for sure on UNA unlike last year where they were still D2. I know in the polls though that both games cost both teams despite playing up. It would be real interesting though as both CWU and APU play West Texas if they split their in conference games with each other to both end up with 1 loss in D-1, but their other non-conference game's then I know would play big in the regional rankings between the two.

I know you LSC fans know one thing, it is hard to schedule close OOC games to fill the schedule. EWU's announcers looked over CWU's schedule and were surprised at their amount of travel compared to EWU.