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  • We-Are-Lions
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    Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post

    Did Carthel beat Tarleton in the playoffs in his tenure at Commerce? :smile-big:
    They only played once in the playoffs, and Lions are 0-1.

    But Colby and co. left Commerce 6-2 against Tarleton, including a LSC playoff win back before adding teams.

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  • Buffalo/Islander Alum
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    Originally posted by ASUPops View Post

    So you feel he is the REAL DEAL and not riding Carthel's coattails?

    If so, thats simply awesome!!
    Did Carthel beat Tarleton in the playoffs in his tenure at Commerce? :smile-big:

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  • Mattportman
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    Originally posted by LionFan View Post

    I think he's done a fabulous job coaching around freakishly bad injury adversity with a very talented team, and never made excuses. I think he took a very volatile situation and not only calmed it, but team chemistry is as good as its ever been.

    I think Colby was a one of a kind coach who did incredible things, and left a great team behind.

    I think Bailiff has taken that team and done more than anyone could have expected.

    Will it continue into the future and he's the "real deal"? Based on what we've seen this year, I don't see why not, he's done an incredible job.

    Is he riding Colby's coattails? I dont think you could say that at all, no one expected this team to be where they are now at the beginning of the year. That's not riding coattails, thats exceeding expectations.

    Both coaches were awesome during their time in Commerce (so far). It's possible for both of them to be great coaches doing a great job without one having to be "better" than the other.
    This right here

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  • LionFan
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    Originally posted by ASUPops View Post

    So you feel he is the REAL DEAL and not riding Carthel's coattails?

    If so, thats simply awesome!!
    I think he's done a fabulous job coaching around freakishly bad injury adversity with a very talented team, and never made excuses. I think he took a very volatile situation and not only calmed it, but team chemistry is as good as its ever been.

    I think Colby was a one of a kind coach who did incredible things, and left a great team behind.

    I think Bailiff has taken that team and done more than anyone could have expected.

    Will it continue into the future and he's the "real deal"? Based on what we've seen this year, I don't see why not, he's done an incredible job.

    Is he riding Colby's coattails? I dont think you could say that at all, no one expected this team to be where they are now at the beginning of the year. That's not riding coattails, thats exceeding expectations.

    Both coaches were awesome during their time in Commerce (so far). It's possible for both of them to be great coaches doing a great job without one having to be "better" than the other.

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  • We-Are-Lions
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    Originally posted by ASUPops View Post

    So you feel he is the REAL DEAL and not riding Carthel's coattails?

    If so, thats simply awesome!!
    My take is he has done more than should be expected. Every school wants a coach that can outperform the resources of the program, and thus far Bailiff (& co) has done so.

    Your potential criticism may be fair since we haven’t seen his long term recruiting, but as of today this staff has earned credibility.

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  • ASUPops
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    Originally posted by Techster88 View Post

    Bailiff has well exceeded expectations at this point and is my COY. Definitely out coached Whitten in playoffs and has the Lions at the doorstep of a regional title.

    To your point, he recruited QB Smalls so he has it in him and you know how critical I have been about the Lions hiring him. But, so far he has proven that an old dog can learn new tricks. The longer the Lions season extends the more opportunities to attract better players. Winning attracts winners.

    Plus, it won’t be that difficult to have a better recruiting class than last year where they recruited 53 WRs.
    Very good points.

    i would now agree on COY.....for sure.

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  • ASUPops
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    Originally posted by LionFan View Post
    Not only Smalls, but he brought in Terrell Collins (D1 Arkansas) who has been probably our best defensive player, Ronathon Elmore at DE who was a beast before injury knocked him out early in the year for the entire season, Chris Williams (Louisville) who has been very good as well, etc. and without much time to recruit. There's also a Texas Tech DE that came in late but hasn't played, appears to be redshirting. Id look for more of a D1 transfer presence on the team moving forward than we have been in the past, due to his connections to those coaches. But from what I've heard he's a great recruiter too, so we will see how it goes in his first full season....although these long playoff runs cut that time short too ;)
    So you feel he is the REAL DEAL and not riding Carthel's coattails?

    If so, thats simply awesome!!

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  • LionFan
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    Originally posted by Techster88 View Post

    Well, as long as he can recruit those talented LBs who can also double as RBs the Lions will be in great shape. LOL
    I'd love to comment, but Turbo would just get pissy about mentioning it so I wont ;)

    But in all seriousness, next season getting back EJ Thompson, Carandal Hale, JT Smith (who was supposed to be awesome) and a freshman I've been hearing REALLY good things about, we should be really good at RB again....especially with how well we have run this season without that level of talent.

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  • Techster88
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    Originally posted by LionFan View Post
    Not only Smalls, but he brought in Terrell Collins (D1 Arkansas) who has been probably our best defensive player, Ronathon Elmore at DE who was a beast before injury knocked him out early in the year for the entire season, Chris Williams (Louisville) who has been very good as well, etc. and without much time to recruit. There's also a Texas Tech DE that came in late but hasn't played, appears to be redshirting. Id look for more of a D1 transfer presence on the team moving forward than we have been in the past, due to his connections to those coaches. But from what I've heard he's a great recruiter too, so we will see how it goes in his first full season....although these long playoff runs cut that time short too ;)
    Well, as long as he can recruit those talented LBs who can also double as RBs the Lions will be in great shape. LOL

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  • LionFan
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    Not only Smalls, but he brought in Terrell Collins (D1 Arkansas) who has been probably our best defensive player, Ronathon Elmore at DE who was a beast before injury knocked him out early in the year for the entire season, Chris Williams (Louisville) who has been very good as well, etc. and without much time to recruit. There's also a Texas Tech DE that came in late but hasn't played, appears to be redshirting. Id look for more of a D1 transfer presence on the team moving forward than we have been in the past, due to his connections to those coaches. But from what I've heard he's a great recruiter too, so we will see how it goes in his first full season....although these long playoff runs cut that time short too ;)

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  • Techster88
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    Originally posted by ASUPops View Post

    Hold the attaboys until he is playing with all his recruits and not the Carthel's.
    Bailiff has well exceeded expectations at this point and is my COY. Definitely out coached Whitten in playoffs and has the Lions at the doorstep of a regional title.

    To your point, he recruited QB Smalls so he has it in him and you know how critical I have been about the Lions hiring him. But, so far he has proven that an old dog can learn new tricks. The longer the Lions season extends the more opportunities to attract better players. Winning attracts winners.

    Plus, it won’t be that difficult to have a better recruiting class than last year where they recruited 53 WRs.

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  • JakeTAMUC
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    Originally posted by ASUPops View Post

    Hold the attaboys until he is playing with all his recruits and not the Carthel's.
    They seem to be very good at finding the right D1 grad/transfer to fill holes so far. Miklo here at qb for 2 more years should help with recruiting in the near term.

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  • Boohaha
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    Originally posted by ASUPops View Post

    Hold the attaboys until he is playing with all his recruits and not the Carthel's.
    His schemes on offense and defense look good.

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  • ASUPops
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    Originally posted by DIIguru View Post
    The Lions seem to be peaking at the right time. It looks like Baliff was the right man for the job. Good Luck this week.
    Hold the attaboys until he is playing with all his recruits and not the Carthel's.

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  • DIIguru
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    The Lions seem to be peaking at the right time. It looks like Baliff was the right man for the job. Good Luck this week.

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