2021 State of LSC Football

[WT_TKW]

They really love the PSAC in their rankings.

I noticed!

[ASUPops]

Ah ok thanks for the clarification. Top 9 increases the chances if the top LSC teams beat up on each other the last few weeks of the season.

It does?

Well, "technically" it does. But a 3 loss LSC team has the same chance of making the play-offs as Snoop Dogg quitting weed.

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

It does?

Well, "technically" it does. But a 3 loss LSC team has the same chance of making the play-offs as Snoop Dogg quitting weed.

You like to gamble? I will bet you $100 (or any amount you want) if Commerce wins out they make the playoffs.

[We-Are-Lions]

It does?

Well, "technically" it does. But a 3 loss LSC team has the same chance of making the play-offs as Snoop Dogg quitting weed.

There is a genuine path I posted in the super regionals thread showing how SR4 ends up with only 6 teams at 2 or fewer losses. Then someone has to get in with 3 losses, and Commerce has to beat out the others.

[ASUPops]

You like to gamble? I will bet you $100 (or any amount you want) if Commerce wins out they make the playoffs.

No. I do not gamble $. Unless it's for charity.

But, I will bet you, and the loser sends a donation to St. Judes https://www.stjude.org/promotion/impact-giving-pm.html

[ASUPops]

There is a genuine path I posted in the super regionals thread showing how SR4 ends up with only 6 teams at 2 or fewer losses. Then someone has to get in with 3 losses, and Commerce has to beat out the others.

Is that realistic?

To he honest, I am only following TAMUC and a couple of teams in the LSC. Have no idea what's happening in DII outside of that. I am too busy following D1 (FBS, that is).

[We-Are-Lions]

Is that realistic?

To he honest, I am only following TAMUC and a couple of teams in the LSC. Have no idea what's happening in DII outside of that. I am too busy following D1 (FBS, that is).

[Brandon]

https://www.versussportssimulator.com/D2/rankings

That might be worse than Bennet rankings that eventually became Hero.

[Brandon]

It does?

Well, "technically" it does. But a 3 loss LSC team has the same chance of making the play-offs as Snoop Dogg quitting weed.

There is only one undefeated team in SR4.

Angelo is #4 at 5-2 right now.

Wayne State is #6 at 5-2 right now.

I think a three-loss team could make it with EA.

[ctrabs74]

That might be worse than Bennet rankings that eventually became Hero.

As someone who used to write for that site, you're not wrong. A lot of those rankings made little sense, but that's what I signed up for (though they've pretty much abandoned any coverage underneath FCS, really...

[ctrabs74]

Even so, if TAMUC wins out, the committee will see them as a 7-3 team (the win over the University of Fort Lauderdale isn't considered because it was a non-D2 game). How a 7-3 TAMUC stacks up against an 8-3 NSIC or RMAC team remains to be seen.

Central Washington's problem is that out of the 10 games on their schedule, only eight are against D2 competition; the loss to Eastern Washington (FCS) and the upcoming game vs Lincoln-Calif. (non-NCAA) won't even be considered. Even if CWU wins out (their remaining three games are against 2-4 Western Oregon (whom they defeated two weeks ago), 1-6 Western New Mexico and 1-4 Simon Fraser), that leaves them with a 7-1 record vs. D2 schools, which barely meets the minimum requirements for playoff eligibility:

In order to be considered during the selection process, a team must:

• Have an overall won-lost record of .500 or better against Division II opponents;
• Play at least eight Division II opponents during the regular season (there will be an appeals process available in 2021 if a given institution is not able to satisfy this requirement); and
• Play at least 10 opponents during the regular season. An institution may submit a waiver request to the football committee for its consideration if a given institution is not able to satisfy this requirement.

The only thing that might help CWU are their win over Midwestern State, but that loss to Angelo State (at home, no less) could offset that. Whether or not that helps TAMUC is certainly debatable.

[ASUPops]

There is only one undefeated team in SR4.

Angelo is #4 at 5-2 right now.

Wayne State is #6 at 5-2 right now.

I think a three-loss team could make it with EA.

But from the LSC??

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

Even so, if TAMUC wins out, the committee will see them as a 7-3 team (the win over the University of Fort Lauderdale isn't considered because it was a non-D2 game). How a 7-3 TAMUC stacks up against an 8-3 NSIC or RMAC team remains to be seen.

Central Washington's problem is that out of the 10 games on their schedule, only eight are against D2 competition; the loss to Eastern Washington (FCS) and the upcoming game vs Lincoln-Calif. (non-NCAA) won't even be considered. Even if CWU wins out (their remaining three games are against 2-4 Western Oregon (whom they defeated two weeks ago), 1-6 Western New Mexico and 1-4 Simon Fraser), that leaves them with a 7-1 record vs. D2 schools, which barely meets the minimum requirements for playoff eligibility:

In order to be considered during the selection process, a team must:

• Have an overall won-lost record of .500 or better against Division II opponents;
• Play at least eight Division II opponents during the regular season (there will be an appeals process available in 2021 if a given institution is not able to satisfy this requirement); and
• Play at least 10 opponents during the regular season. An institution may submit a waiver request to the football committee for its consideration if a given institution is not able to satisfy this requirement.

The only thing that might help CWU are their win over Midwestern State, but that loss to Angelo State (at home, no less) could offset that. Whether or not that helps TAMUC is certainly debatable.

If the playoff criteria is the same as the recent past there isn't a D2 team around that comes close to having the D2 non conference schedule Commerce has. They have played Pueblo on the road and home games against West Florida and Saginaw Valley. All three of those teams have winning records. I think there would have to be 7 teams above them with only 2 losses and even that might not be enough with the SOS boost Commerce will get with those teams winning out. That will hurt the NSIC schools if they are still only playing in conference games.

Yeah the Central Washington win over a possible LSC champ will be helpful but playing weak teams twice will kill their SOS. They would have had a much stronger case beating Angelo State and Midwestern State as those two teams could likely finish 1 and 2 in the LSC.

[ASUPops]

If the playoff criteria is the same as the recent past there isn't a D2 team around that comes close to having the D2 non conference schedule Commerce has. They have played Pueblo on the road and home games against West Florida and Saginaw Valley. All three of those teams have winning records. I think there would have to be 7 teams above them with only 2 losses and even that might not be enough with the SOS boost Commerce will get with those teams winning out. That will hurt the NSIC schools if they are still only playing in conference games.

Yeah the Central Washington win over a possible LSC champ will be helpful but playing weak teams twice will kill their SOS. They would have had a much stronger case beating Angelo State and Midwestern State as those two teams could likely finish 1 and 2 in the LSC.

I can see your argument now.

I hope TAMUC does get in. I have enjoyed watching the Lions this year. The rest of the season should be a blast!

[the tav]

If the playoff criteria is the same as the recent past there isn't a D2 team around that comes close to having the D2 non conference schedule Commerce has. They have played Pueblo on the road and home games against West Florida and Saginaw Valley. All three of those teams have winning records. I think there would have to be 7 teams above them with only 2 losses and even that might not be enough with the SOS boost Commerce will get with those teams winning out. That will hurt the NSIC schools if they are still only playing in conference games.

Yeah the Central Washington win over a possible LSC champ will be helpful but playing weak teams twice will kill their SOS. They would have had a much stronger case beating Angelo State and Midwestern State as those two teams could likely finish 1 and 2 in the LSC.

CWU needs West Texas A&M to keep winning that helps their SOS with Western Oregon beating them.