Offense

[tsull]

As a typical fan I'm nitpicking the offense as an armchair quarterback the day after. It doesn't mean I want anybody fired because I don't. I like the coaching staff, but I'm wondering about a few things Western Oregon could have done to win the game yesterday. I've already commented on puzzling up the middle calls on the 1-yard line seven times and not getting in.

My other problem is our quarterback carrying it 22 times, one more than our star running back. I get it that McCarty is extremely athletic and fast and he did have over a hundred yards rushing, but I really would like to see him throw the ball a little bit.

Kingsville basically won the game at the end with their third string quarterback throwing the ball and getting two pass interference plays. Bottom line, it's tough to play defensive back at any college level and you often will get pass interference plays. I wish Western Oregon would give their fine receiving corps more of a chance to catch balls. There was a time in the second half where they called three straight runs for McCarty and he never got a first down.

I love ground and pound, but I don't understand this game plan. Yes, the quarterback is very athletic, he also got sacked a few times. Let's give our receivers a chance at the ball.

[Goods]

Sounds too one-sided and a quarterback with capable receivers still running too much means one of two things: Either the quarterback is scared to stay in the pocket, or the gameplan is too simple.

[tsull]

Sounds too one-sided and a quarterback with capable receivers still running too much means one of two things: Either the quarterback is scared to stay in the pocket, or the gameplan is too simple.

Seven times (!) up the middle from the 1 for no gain or loss was too much. They don't have other goal-line plays? They could roll out, run/pass option, drag the TE over the middle, etc. Absolutely no creativity in the play calling there and it cost them the game. Most high school coaches after 4 failures would've tried something else. I've never seen anything like it in the 100's of football games I've watched in my lifetime. Sorry, gotta call the coaches out on that.

[cwfenn]

Seven times (!) up the middle from the 1 for no gain or loss was too much. They don't have other goal-line plays? They could roll out, run/pass option, drag the TE over the middle, etc. Absolutely no creativity in the play calling there and it cost them the game. Most high school coaches after 4 failures would've tried something else. I've never seen anything like it in the 100's of football games I've watched in my lifetime. Sorry, gotta call the coaches out on that.

I wonder if there was fear in those play calls, so they go with what seems comfortable even though the Kingsville defensive front has been strong this season. I say give McCarty the ball on the edge on one of those run/pass option plays and see what he can do (like you said). Give Kingsville something different to think about.

Or you can do what the NY Giants did last night on that 2-point play…no, don’t do that, never, ever do that!

[WT_TKW]

Coaches sometimes get stubborn, and there is no convincing them otherwise. In last week's game against UTPB, WT Coach Lynn decided to emphasize the run in the 3rd quarter. WT had a 3 and out. On the next possession, on the second or third run, we got a first down as the quarter ended. In the meantime UTPB used up almost all of the 3rd quarter with a mixture of plays.

To his credit, Lynn did go to a more balanced attack in the 4th quarter, but no points were scored in the 2nd half.

[tsull]

I wonder if there was fear in those play calls, so they go with what seems comfortable even though the Kingsville defensive front has been strong this season. I say give McCarty the ball on the edge on one of those run/pass option plays and see what he can do (like you said). Give Kingsville something different to think about.

Or you can do what the NY Giants did last night on that 2-point play…no, don’t do that, never, ever do that!

Exactly on the last two posts of this thread. Fear and stubbornness. They've got to have more than one play call down there at least I think they do. A fast quarterback has got a decent arm, which he doesn't need from one yard out, should be able to provide a lot more options than just running it up the gut every single time after five failures, they try it for two more times, it's just amazing.

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

Exactly on the last two posts of this thread. Fear and stubbornness. They've got to have more than one play call down there at least I think they do. A fast quarterback has got a decent arm, which he doesn't need from one yard out, should be able to provide a lot more options than just running it up the gut every single time after five failures, they try it for two more times, it's just amazing.

Yeah its a little different if you have an offensive line like Harding and can just pound it in there against anyone even if they know you know that they know that you know.

Even a triple option......well......gives you more than one option. 🙂

[huntnfish]

Playing calling like all decisions is easier after the fact. I think the coach would even probably say that it was bad playcalling because it didn't work.

However, all those great ideas you threw out wouldn't be such great ideas if they didn't work. You have know way of knowing if they would. If they would of tried your ideas and they didn't work would you be saying why did they try to run outside? or they only needed a yard or why the heck try a TE drag on the one yard line? Maybe some of the plays "up the Gut" were RPO's and the QB handed it off. Maybe they were zone read and the QB didn't get a pull read. Just because they run "up the Middle" doesn't mean it was the same play. Maybe it was a great play call and an Oline missed their assignment or block? The general way in which you describe the plays leads me to believe you don't really have any idea what is going on so I'm not sure your qualified to second guess the play calling, but hey you payed for your ticket or for the live stream so question away that's part of the fun right.

[tsull]

Playing calling like all decisions is easier after the fact. I think the coach would even probably say that it was bad playcalling because it didn't work.

However, all those great ideas you threw out wouldn't be such great ideas if they didn't work. You have know way of knowing if they would. If they would of tried your ideas and they didn't work would you be saying why did they try to run outside? or they only needed a yard or why the heck try a TE drag on the one yard line? Maybe some of the plays "up the Gut" were RPO's and the QB handed it off. Maybe they were zone read and the QB didn't get a pull read. Just because they run "up the Middle" doesn't mean it was the same play. Maybe it was a great play call and an Oline missed their assignment or block? The general way in which you describe the plays leads me to believe you don't really have any idea what is going on so I'm not sure your qualified to second guess the play calling, but hey you payed for your ticket or for the live stream so question away that's part of the fun right.

I was standing just yards away from the play In The End Zone where the action was taking place. It wasn't run past option I can guarantee that. It was the same play every single time. After four of the handoffs I knew they were not going to get in doing this. I was just surprised they tried it three more times. They were getting absolutely no leverage at all on the Kingsville defensive line. Yes the other plays might not have worked either but really seven times of the same play you think that's okay? Never in the history of football have I seen that and I've watched probably hundreds if not thousands of games. I've never seen a team called the same play seven straight times.