Off Topic: 3 Former LSC schools seeded in FCS Playoffs

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

Incarnate Word is the #6 seed and plays the winner of Eastern Kentucky and # 11 seed Villanova.

Tarleton #13 seed has a home game against Drake.

ACU is a #15 seed and has a home game against Northern Arizona.

So much for all these schools falling on their face leaving D2.

[Herb Street]

I’m lost. Who claims they fell on their face?

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

I’m lost. Who claims they fell on their face?

Some of your die hard D2 peeps around here that claimed no more national championships and irrelevance once you walk out the d2 door.

[MooseLodge]

Some of your die hard D2 peeps around here that claimed no more national championships and irrelevance once you walk out the d2 door.

Certainly, an FCS football championship is in play (sort of), but there isn't an FCS for all of the other sports, which means no more national championships.

And I'll go out on a limb and predict that no Texas football schools will sniff a FCS championship until the Dakotas and Montanas depart for FBS. Several have been courted by the Mountain West to do so but have declined. Those teams are flagship state schools, operating at a completely different funding and donor support level.

[tsull]

Some of your die hard D2 peeps around here that claimed no more national championships and irrelevance once you walk out the d2 door.

Who?

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

Who?

If you have been around, you know who the ones are that are anti FCS because of costs and also want to stay D2 to compete for championships here. I have already done enough research on other threads. Open up any D1 thread discussion from the past on the LSC forum and you can find them there.

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

Certainly, an FCS football championship is in play (sort of), but there isn't an FCS for all of the other sports, which means no more national championships.

And I'll go out on a limb and predict that no Texas football schools will sniff a FCS championship until the Dakotas and Montanas depart for FBS. Several have been courted by the Mountain West to do so but have declined. Those teams are flagship state schools, operating at a completely different funding and donor support level.

If you get the right players, it's not too impossible to get a national baseball championship. Coastal Carolina can tell you that and other small team have made the college world series.

[MooseLodge]

If you get the right players, it's not too impossible to get a national baseball championship. Coastal Carolina can tell you that and other small team have made the college world series.

True and excellent point. It is really a matter of philosophy of the athletic program. I have a friend who is an AD at an upper Midwest FCS-level program. Their mission is an occasional conference championship, and a once-every-generation "David slays Goliath" scenario. They haven't had one of those in many decades, but they know their number must be up soon, if by nothing other than dumb luck. Sports other than football and men's basketball are shoestring funded.

I think as long as your supporters are good with that philosophy, it can work. But if you look at the stadiums on ESPN+ for most of these FCS games, it's clear that fans have no interest. Tarleton's first game was on national TV, and the place was mostly empty (although 18,000 announced) Excuse? "It was hot and everyone was excited it was on ESPN and stayed home." Give me a break already.

[Runnin' Cat]

If you have been around, you know who the ones are that are anti FCS because of costs and also want to stay D2 to compete for championships here. I have already done enough research on other threads. Open up any D1 thread discussion from the past on the LSC forum and you can find them there.

Again, who?

[Runnin' Cat]

If you get the right players, it's not too impossible to get a national baseball championship. Coastal Carolina can tell you that and other small team have made the college world series.

This is sheer brilliance! Get the right players and you can win the NC...

If coaches could only understand this nugget.

[MooseLodge]

I thought of a nugget that I picked up about a year ago re: Texas Tech athletics. They are P4, so one would assume that they are flush with cash for all sports. Not so. Football and men's basketball are consuming most of the dollars. The women's basketball coach's marching orders are "try to win as many as you lose in conference, and keep the kids out of trouble." In volleyball, the bar is even lower. "Win some games and stay out of trouble." Those sports, and probably the rest, are woefully underfunded, rendering Texas Tech completely irrelevant nationally. THAT SAID, some donors are really trying to beef up softball with NIL.

[MooseLodge]

This is sheer brilliance! Get the right players and you can win the NC...

If coaches could only understand this nugget.

That's always been the case. It takes $$$ to get the "right" players, and if they are too "right", they are off to the highest bidder in December.

This video pretty well sums the situation up:

Nebraska HC Matt Rhule on the 105-player roster limit 🗣️ #shorts

That said, there will be a whole bunch of lesser D1 players that trickle all the way down to D2. The quality of athlete on the field will improve for the teams that are taking advantage of it.

[Techster88]

I thought of a nugget that I picked up about a year ago re: Texas Tech athletics. They are P4, so one would assume that they are flush with cash for all sports. Not so. Football and men's basketball are consuming most of the dollars. The women's basketball coach's marching orders are "try to win as many as you lose in conference, and keep the kids out of trouble." In volleyball, the bar is even lower. "Win some games and stay out of trouble." Those sports, and probably the rest, are woefully underfunded, rendering Texas Tech completely irrelevant nationally. THAT SAID, some donors are really trying to beef up softball with NIL.

Years ago I had a conversation with Gerald Meyers and he told me the two sports you mentioned paid for every other sport at Tech. So, naturally the two money makers are going to get the lion's share of the revenue.

[Runnin' Cat]

That's always been the case. It takes $$$ to get the "right" players, and if they are too "right", they are off to the highest bidder in December.

This video pretty well sums the situation up:

Nebraska HC Matt Rhule on the 105-player roster limit 🗣️ #shorts

That said, there will be a whole bunch of lesser D1 players that trickle all the way down to D2. The quality of athlete on the field will improve for the teams that are taking advantage of it.

Montana State is the #1seed. Lookalike their roster retention as well as the Dakota schools. That is a reason.

[MooseLodge]

Montana State is the #1seed. Lookalike their roster retention as well as the Dakota schools. That is a reason.

The Montanas and the Dakotas are the Ohio States of FCS football and they like it that way. They are flagship state universities. Directional state schools can't keep up with those guys. It's a ma$$ive mismatch.