University of Jamestown reportedly applies for NSIC membership

[zimmy21]

Almost everything I agree with you, except that awful press box would need to be blown up and replaced, also a designated wheelchair and handicapped section in the seating area.

Totally agreed

[SW_Mustang]

I think we should move up. Nearly every school our size is D1 and we have the facilities and all sports success to match. And our budget is roughly in line with a low major in the Summit already (Plus Big 12 in wrestling would be sweet). As far as football is concerned, we have like 5 years of ineligibility to go from 36 to 63 scholarships and we can just be FCS Independent durong the interim and schedule who we want including NSIC and FBS pay games. There are worse stadiums than ours in FCS and we can expand with temp seats like what we did with Vikings training camp and Hockey Day. The only reason we haven't moved on is a lack of vision. My answer would be different if the NCC split never happened and the D2 to D1 and NAIA to D2 jumps haven't happened.

You'd need an entire new football stadium and would have to be okay with never having the opportunity to compete for a national title ever again in any of the sports people actually watch.

Also the temp seats at hockey day actually decreased the capacity of the Blake, fwiw. You wouldn't need to worry about expanding the seating arrangement if you're playing PFL/OVC teams though.

[zimmy21]

You'd need an entire new football stadium and would have to be okay with never having the opportunity to compete for a national title ever again in any of the sports people actually watch.

Also the temp seats at hockey day actually decreased the capacity of the Blake, fwiw. You wouldn't need to worry about expanding the seating arrangement if you're playing PFL/OVC teams though.

Jokes on you, nobody is watching D2 sports regardless, besides the addicts like us

[zimmy21]

Where does the money for 54 additional scholarships come from? The 27 added to football would need to be matched for Women as well. Kinda glanced over that part.

From my understanding the scholarships don't have to be fully funded, just that 63 is the maximum of scholarships allowed.
While not utilizing all 63 scholarships as fully funded might not make you super competitive right away, it may be a way around having to fund 54 full scholarships (27male/27 female) until scholarship funds.


Women's wrestling can easily be added, along with Bowling. Mankato has the needed equipment and space to accommodate it. The expenses would be travel, and coach staff.

[Purple Mav Man]

From my understanding the scholarships don't have to be fully funded, just that 63 is the maximum of scholarships allowed.
While not utilizing all 63 scholarships as fully funded might not make you super competitive right away, it may be a way around having to fund 54 full scholarships (27male/27 female) until scholarship funds.


Women's wrestling can easily be added, along with Bowling. Mankato has the needed equipment and space to accommodate it. The expenses would be travel, and coach staff.

Correct, don’t have to be at 63. He mentioned 63, so that’s where I pulled my number. If MSU were to move up, I’d hope they’d do it with 63 in mind. But those challenges are real.

Womens wrestling has a limit of 10 and womens bowling 5 ,so that’s 15. And agree that they could easily start those with minimal start-up expense. Basic program expenses, mainly.

That gets them to 50.

Also, I believe they’d need an invite to make the jump and couldn’t just decide to do it as an independent. I could be wrong and that may be different now. I haven’t looked into any conference minimum requirements, but 50 likely fills most. They just likely wouldn’t be competitive nationally at 50/63. A step up to take a few steps down.

[zimmy21]

Correct, don’t have to be at 63. He mentioned 63, so that’s where I pulled my number. If MSU were to move up, I’d hope they’d do it with 63 in mind. But those challenges are real.

Womens wrestling has a limit of 10 and womens bowling 5 ,so that’s 15. And agree that they could easily start those with minimal start-up expense. Basic program expenses, mainly.

That gets them to 50.

Also, I believe they’d need an invite to make the jump and couldn’t just decide to do it as an independent. I could be wrong and that may be different now. I haven’t looked into any conference minimum requirements, but 50 likely fills most. They just likely wouldn’t be competitive nationally at 50/63. A step up to take a few steps down.

I'd have to look to see if the Olympic sports scholarship max increases as well.

I do believe that you need an invite, but it's not a requirement that every sport is in the same conference. I believe independence is acceptable for a sport offered if the conference does not sponsor it, and the Summit is close but not yet at the 6 minimum. Would need UST, and maybe Omaha to bring it back.
Otherwise the Summit is just sitting there at 9

[Purple Mav Man]

I'd have to look to see if the Olympic sports scholarship max increases as well.

I do believe that you need an invite, but it's not a requirement that every sport is in the same conference. I believe independence is acceptable for a sport offered if the conference does not sponsor it, and the Summit is close but not yet at the 6 minimum. Would need UST, and maybe Omaha to bring it back.
Otherwise the Summit is just sitting there at 9

Here you go: https://scholarshipstats.com/ncaalimits

Summit is unlikely.

[vikingfaithful]

Correct, don’t have to be at 63. He mentioned 63, so that’s where I pulled my number. If MSU were to move up, I’d hope they’d do it with 63 in mind. But those challenges are real.

Womens wrestling has a limit of 10 and womens bowling 5 ,so that’s 15. And agree that they could easily start those with minimal start-up expense. Basic program expenses, mainly.

That gets them to 50.

Also, I believe they’d need an invite to make the jump and couldn’t just decide to do it as an independent. I could be wrong and that may be different now. I haven’t looked into any conference minimum requirements, but 50 likely fills most. They just likely wouldn’t be competitive nationally at 50/63. A step up to take a few steps down.

To make it work MSU possibly would have to phase out some men's sports for budgetary reasons, Mid major and FCS football do not get big attendance over D2 unless they are in states where their the big shows like Montana and N. and S. Dakota. USD attendance is paltry. Travel costs go through the roof. The Summit league is a low performing league. The Missouri Valley FCS league does well, although NDSU was it's only star until last season. 99% of the country does not know the Summit exists. MSU would always be a far distance 2nd to Gooferville. The member starved Summit would take the Mavs with open arms.

[Purple Mav Man]

To make it work MSU possibly would have to phase out some men's sports for budgetary reasons, Mid major and FCS football do not get big attendance over D2 unless they are in states where their the big shows like Montana and N. and S. Dakota. USD attendance is paltry. Travel costs go through the roof. The Summit league is a low performing league. The Missouri Valley FCS league does well, although NDSU was it's only star until last season. 99% of the country does not know the Summit exists. MSU would always be a far distance 2nd to Gooferville. The member starved Summit would take the Mavs with open arms.

I’m marking the “strongly agree” boxes to the bolded parts. And they would go hand in hand.

The remainder I am marking the “agree” boxes. Except that last part…that one is “neither agree or disagree”. I doubt they’d invite them, but as you’ve described, they probably would. 🤷🏼♂️

[CollegeFBGuy]

How would MSU draw, head to head or whatever, with St Thomas? I see references the the U of M, but not much considering the Tommies are a few steps ahead of the Mavericks on the jump

[zimmy21]

How would MSU draw, head to head or whatever, with St Thomas? I see references the the U of M, but not much considering the Tommies are a few steps ahead of the Mavericks on the jump

Every year the gap gets wider...Football might be even right now.
I'd say Tommies real advantage would be Basketball. I think we'd be competitive, if not better in most other sports.
The longer UST has to establish itself in D1 is a harder fight for us to gain recruits over them in the future, and that doesn't matter if we're D1 or D2.

[SW_Mustang]

Jokes on you, nobody is watching D2 sports regardless, besides the addicts like us

I am the goof that paid $40 to watch an MVFC team beat a PFL team a few weeks ago, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

It was a rough way to spend a Saturday, I'll say that much.

[oldyellaHer69]

Jimmies had their bye week, October brings pumpkin spice, count the pumpkins heads in the NSIC, welcome aboard mini Crookston

[zimmy21]

Jimmies had their bye week, October brings pumpkin spice, count the pumpkins heads in the NSIC, welcome aboard mini Crookston

Still haven't heard anything about the meeting

[Stanger86]

Jimmies had their bye week, October brings pumpkin spice, count the pumpkins heads in the NSIC, welcome aboard mini Crookston

It's funny how obsessed you are with them....you must really want them to join.