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  • TopperNation
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    I know West Lib had their foul shooting issues but all in all that was a HUGE win! They take the MEC regular season title and I suspect will now be number one when the regional rankings are released. Is it me or does Marlon Moore Jr. seem to come up big in these late season and tournament games? Thank goodness he came back for another season. Speaking of coming up big, Bryce Butler is much better then I ever thought he would be when he originally signed with WLU. This guy is difficult to guard as he plays point guard on certain sets and center on others, that is tough!

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  • Columbuseer
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    Fairmont Strategy Imaginings:
    • Minimize turnovers against WLU pressure
    • Attack offensively to draw fouls
    • Shoot better than WLU, especially from three-point range
    • Aggressively rebound and keep WLU offensive rebounds to a minimum
    • Leverage their talented high basketball IQ and talented athletes whenever possible, who are comparable in these traits with WLU. Fairmont has several such athletes who can really hurt you, such as Sanders, Von Handorf, and Parris. Dobbs is also a talented inside-outside scorer.
    If one looked only at the stats, most would say Fairmont was victorious.
    • Made 30 FTs to 12 for WLU
    • Shot 50% from three on 9-18, comparted to 30% on 6-20 for WLU
    • Led in offensive rebounds 12 to 8; held WLU to only 28% in offensive rebounding efficiency
    • Had superlative assist to turnover ratio of 1.64. Their active hands lowered WLU to 1.43, far below their average of 1.69
    • WLU even had two technical fouls, which is unacceptable.


    So how in the world did WLU manage to win the game?
    • WLU 2-point shooting % was 69% to only 43% for Fairmont. Bryce Butler is getting almost unstoppable with his back to the basket inside; his footwork is a work of art at only 6-5. Patrick was converting contested drives to the rim, as Fairmont had to respect the outside shot, which left openings for him and late closeouts by Fairmont.
    • Although WLU as shooting poorly from three (0-7 in second half), their 2-point shooting carried them to a 63% to 51% advantage in effective shooting %
    • Fairmont missed a shot and Patrick got the rebound, getting fouled with 0.5 seconds left. Unfortunately, players on the WLU bench did not stay focused on the game and ran onto the court to celebrate, think the game was over. The resulting two-shot team technical gave Fairmont the lead at 96-95. Fortunately, the double bonus gave Patrick, an 79% FT shooter, two shots. After missing the first, he sank the second to force OT.
    • I was desperately hoping that WLU would win in OT, for the sake of the WLU bench, whose lack of focus might have cost WLU any chance of hosting the regional and put the MEC season championship at risk. Thankfully, Fairmont was running out of energy in the OT and the shots were not falling and they were a step slow on defense.
    Points per possession were essentially = 1.18 for Fairmont and 1.17 for WLU. It was very high-level basketball by both teams. Classic game.
    Team West Liberty Fairmont State Advantage to:
    Date 2/19/2022 2/19/2022
    Score 110-107 WLU
    w/l Wot WLU
    FG 46 34 WLU
    FGA 78 76 =
    FG Pct 59% 45% WLU
    3FG 6 9 FSU
    3 FGA 20 18 =
    3 FG PCT 30% 50% FSU
    FT 12 30 FSU
    FTA 23 37 FSU
    FT PCT 52% 81% FSU
    Off Reb 8 12 FSU
    Def Reb 26 21 WLU
    Tot Reb 34 33 =
    PF 24 18 FSU
    Assist 20 18 =
    TO 14 11 FSU
    Blk 9 3 WLU
    Stl 5 7 FSU
    Pts 110 107 WLU
    Avg Pts Per Game 100.3 79.3 WLU
    Steals per Forced TO 45% 50% FSU
    Assist to TO Ratio 1.43 1.64 FSU
    Assist per FG 43% 53% FSU
    Points Per FGA 1.41 1.41 =
    Points Per Possession 1.17 1.18 =
    Num Possessions 94 91 =
    OppDefReb 21 26 FSU
    Off Reb Effic 28% 32%
    Forced TO 11 14
    Game num 26 29
    Two Pt FG % 69.0% 43.1% WLU
    Effective Shooting % 62.82% 50.66% WLU

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  • Scrub
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    Originally posted by Columbuseer View Post

    Did u lose video for nearly all of second half from Fairmont broadcast?

    Incredible win. Still inconsistent with FTs. Amazing to avoid loss down 1 with shot clock off. Mec tourney is going to be amazingly high level basketball. Several teams could win it.
    The livestream feed was a debacle for Fairmont yesterday.

    -- The first half played without audio.
    -- The feed froze (permanently) with 6 minutes to go in the first half.
    -- They actually stopped the broadcast and re-opened an entirely new video for the start of the second half.
    -- The first 10 minutes of the second half played seamlessly--this time with audio.
    -- Of course, the audio featured the worst "homer" calls I've heard from a non-student broadcaster (at least when the kids on the Clarion broadcast act like fans you can kinda excuse it because they're kids)
    -- Then second half video goes away as well.

    The women's game feed played start to finish with no issues. Not sure what the issue was with the men's game feed, but it was thoroughly unwatchable for a wide variety of reasons (not the least of which was WLU's absolutely horrendous free throw display!).

    The game write-up mentioned that when Robinson was fouled after a rebound with less than a second on the clock at the end of regulation (essentially ending the game), a WLU player thought the game was already over and charged the court earning a T for leaving the bench area during play. I'd love to have seen what happened there. But at that point, all I knew was that the livestats were taking a long time to reload (apparently while the refs sorted out the issue at the scorer's table).

    Of note: early in the second half (when video was still a thing), when Fairmont was making their run to get back in it, a fan on the baseline under the WLU hoop entered the court and play had to be stopped. I always thought that a home team was penalized in some way (like a team Technical) when the home fans misbehave in that kind of way. But even though WLU was in the offensive end before the kid had stopped celebrating the Fairmont bucket that happened on the other end of the floor, the only recourse was a whistle and a side out for WLU.

    Weird game all the way around.

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  • Columbuseer
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    You are likely right about tired legs. For the season no one averaged over 28 min (patrick). Today:

    bryce 39
    Patrick 37
    Cmont 34
    malik 29
    viktor 23
    Ben 19
    Marlon 16 (foul trouble)

    We had to keep our strongest, most athletic, defensive team on the court who are also strong scorers. Good strategy imho as fairmont has several great scorers who can get hot.
    we wore them out on the OT but they still nearly hit the last shot of game.

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  • Layton
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    Originally posted by Columbuseer View Post

    Did u lose video for nearly all of second half from Fairmont broadcast?

    Incredible win. Still inconsistent with FTs. Amazing to avoid loss down 1 with shot clock off. Mec tourney is going to be amazingly high level basketball. Several teams could win it.

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  • Columbuseer
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    Originally posted by Layton View Post
    Not the prettiest but a HUGE win. So many costly FT misses
    Did u lose video for nearly all of second half from Fairmont broadcast?

    Incredible win. Still inconsistent with FTs. Amazing to avoid loss down 1 with shot clock off. Mec tourney is going to be amazingly high level basketball. Several teams could win it.

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  • Layton
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    Not the prettiest but a HUGE win. So many costly FT misses

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  • Columbuseer
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    Frostburg Strategy:
    • Minimize turnovers
    • Keep WLU offensive rebounds to a minimum
    • Hit the boards hard
    • Leverage their talented one-on-one athletes whenever possible
    • At least make an effort to pass the ball to teammates.
    Frostburg scored first, jumping out to a 2-0 lead and appear to at least be making an effort to pass the ball. The lead lasted for 27 seconds. Three minutes and 5 FSU turnovers later, the score stood at 18-4. At the ten-minute mark, the score stood at 32-13.
    Frostburg, to their credit kept playing. At this point, their strategy had been discarded.

    Frostburg made a run of their own, aided by:
    • WLU went soft on defense. They were allowing players to get to the rim with their strong hand, where they could finish with their shooting hand farthest away from the defender.
    • FSU was on fire finishing at the rim and hitting threes, many of which were difficult, contested shots. They were feeling it!
    • In 4 minutes, Frostburg was only down by 8 at 36-28.

    In about 2.5 minutes, WLU had doubled the lead to 16 with 3:51 left in the half at 44-28.
    The half ended with WLU leading 51-36, a 15-point lead.
    There was concern because Frostburg was hitting incredibly difficult, contested shots. If WLU went cold again, things could get interesting (as in WV Wesleyan hit 90% from three a few years ago in the second half to pull a major upset after being 18 down).
    However, on the plus side, WLU had the following advantages:
    • Superior, quality depth
    • Frostburg was getting tired and getting a step slow on defense.
    • The concept of team play is a foreign one for Frostburg, which results in me-first, heat-check shots and bad possessions. They are also not used to playing as a team against pressure, trapping defense. One player got trapped in the corner on a missed WLU FT, picked up the ball and then jumped up and came down with the ball 94 feet from basket! Rarely seen type of turnover!
    • One could argue that they have negative synergy, where the total team talent is LESS than the sum of the individual talents of the players.

    WLU started getting uncontested drives to the rim and were drilling wide-open threes. At 14:27, the lead had reached 21 points. The lead bounced around between 21 and 29 points until 5:46 mark, when it reached 30 points. Only incredible, difficult, playground shots from Frostburg were preventing a total collapse.

    At 4:28, WLU put in their younger players. The trouble was that Frostburg did not have the legs to defend and run with these new, fresh players who were anxious to prove they could play the WLU style. No garbage time, just half-court pressure and ball movement. The lead reached 40 points at 1:19 left in the game with young players in the game.
    Keys to Victory
    • Frostburg has some very gifted athletes. But a one-on-one game without sharing the ball is a recipe for disaster against WLU. They appear to be incapable to playing against full-court, trapping pressure. One just does not see it growing up playing AAU and pickup games.
    • WLU pressure overcame a horrendous first half shooting performance, by enabling them to make 76% of their two-point FG attempts
    • WLU stole the ball on 70% of the forced turnovers, which is incredibly high %.
    • After a horrendous first half, WLU shot 45% from three in the second half, finishing at 33%.
    • WLU shared the ball for 27 assists against only 8 turnovers and an incredible 3.30 assist-to-turnover ratio. By comparison, Frostburg had 7 assists and 23 turnovers for a dismal 0.3 assist-to-turnover ratio.
    Team West Liberty Frostburg State Advantage to:
    Date 2/16/2022 2/16/2022
    Score 114-76 WLU
    w/l W WLU
    FG 45 30 WLU
    FGA 82 65 WLU
    FG Pct 55% 46% WLU
    3FG 13 6 WLU
    3 FGA 40 22 WLU
    3 FG PCT 33% 27% WLU
    FT 11 10 =
    FTA 16 15 =
    FT PCT 69% 67% =
    Off Reb 13 13 =
    Def Reb 24 25 FSU
    Tot Reb 37 38 FSU
    PF 16 15 =
    Assist 27 7 WLU
    Turnover 8 23 WLU
    Block 5 1 WLU
    Steal 16 5 WLU
    Pts 114 76 WLU
    Avg Pts Per Game 100 78.2 WLU
    Steals per Forced TO 70% 63% WLU
    Assist to TO Ratio 3.38 0.30 WLU
    Assist per FG 60% 23% wlu
    Points Per FGA 1.39 1.17 WLU
    Points Per Possession 1.36 0.93 WLU
    Num Possessions 84 82 =
    OppDefReb 25 24 FSU
    Off Reb Effic 34% 35% =
    Forced Turnovers 23 8 WLU
    Game num 25 28 FSU
    Two Pt FG % 76.2% 55.8% WLU
    Effective Shooting % 62.80% 50.77% WLU
    Last edited by Columbuseer; 02-18-2022, 01:01 AM. Reason: C9rrected typos

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  • Columbuseer
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    West Liberty National Ranking including games through 2/6/22
    • West Liberty is in the top 5 nationally in 8 categories!
    • West Liberty is in the top 10 nationally in 11 categories!
    • 90th percentile in 14 categories!
    • Assists are #2, at 20.5 a game, which is an indicator of how much they share the ball, especially when one considers the scoop and scores on steals, which are generally not applicable for assists
    • Assist to turnover ratio is an amazing 1.69, considering the rapid pace of play and the increased number of possessions in a game.
    Date National Ranking West Liberty rank Value
    2/16/2022 Scoring Offense 1 100.00
    2/16/2022 Scoring Margin 1 21.00
    2/16/2022 Assists Per Game 2 20.50
    2/16/2022 Steals Per Game 3 11.30
    2/16/2022 Turnover Margin 3 7.40
    2/16/2022 Turnovers Forced 3 19.52
    2/16/2022 Assist Turnover Ratio 3 1.69
    2/16/2022 Three-Point Field Goals Per Game 5 11.30
    2/16/2022 Three-Point Attempts 8 725.00
    2/16/2022 Field-Goal Percentage 9 50.80
    2/16/2022 Offensive Rebounds per game 10 13.64
    2/16/2022 Free-Throw Attempts 15 528.00
    2/16/2022 Free-Throw Made 17 383.00
    2/16/2022 Three-Point Field-Goal Percentage 23 38.90
    2/16/2022 Total Rebounds per game 38 38.96
    2/16/2022 Rebound Margin 40 4.00
    2/16/2022 Blocked Shots Per Game 58 3.70
    2/16/2022 Free-Throw Percentage 117 72.54
    2/16/2022 Defensive Rebounds per game 168 25.32
    2/16/2022 Field-Goal Percentage Defense 209 45.84

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  • Columbuseer
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    Wlu 22 recruit Luke Denbow gets more awards...


    Ashland's Luke Denbow was named Division I District 6 Player of the Year for the third consecutive season. Through 19 games, Denbow is averaging 28.5 points, 6.4 rebounds, 6.1 assists and 2.4 steals.
    Last edited by Columbuseer; 02-17-2022, 06:04 AM.

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  • Columbuseer
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    Patrick Robinson III and Bryce Butler have made the Bevo Francis Award top 50 watch list for best small college basketball player, spanning d2, d3, and naia. Congrats Patrick and Bryce!

    https://hilltoppersports.com/news/20...cis-award.aspx

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  • Layton
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    Nova SE at #1 and WL at #2, pretty cool

    https://twitter.com/ncaadii/status/1...593673219?s=21

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  • Columbuseer
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    Observations on West Liberty at Concord - Won 107-86 2/12/22

    Concord Strategy:
    • Minimize turnovers by using three shorter guards, sacrificing rebounding for ball security.
    • Keep WLU offensive rebounds to a minimum
    • Attack the rim when they have numerical advantage and a clear opening or kick out for open three in transition
    • Avoid difficult, rushed, off-balance shots in transition

    For all of the first half and about 5 minutes, the strategy worked (with the exception of offensive rebounding), with the help of WLU missing some open shots and multiple offensive put-back rebounds. WLU led 45-41 at halftime.
    WLU Blackout
    At 16:32 of second half, WLU led by 2, 54-52, when the second platoon entered the game with tremendous energy. That is when the wheels came off for Concord.
    • The cumulative effect of the WLU pace and the Concord players sprinting in transition when they broke the press over the last 24 minutes was taking its toll, mentally and physically.
    • Now a fresh group of WLU attackers enter the game.
    • In 63 seconds, the second platoon reeled off a 9-0 run, using steals, deep threes and layups for a 63-52 lead.
    • The first platoon reenters the game to face a softened-up Concord team that was exhausted. They extended the lead to 19 points with 9:29 left in the game.
    • The lead went up and down between 13 and 18 points, with the largest lead reached at 3:29 left in the game at 23 points. Then WLU got their younger players in the game for valuable experience.
    IMHO Keys to WLU Victory
    • Sharing the ball
    • WLU got 9 steals out of 15 forced turnovers
    • In a foul-marred contest, WLU hit 83% of their 35 FTs.
    • WLU only committed 9 turnovers and had an assist to turnover ratio of 2.00. Also, they scored more points off turnovers than did Concord.
    Summary
    This game demonstrated that WLU can win in a variety of ways, using 10 players who share the ball; three-point shooting inside scoring, foul shooting, turnovers, offensive rebounding, steals, etc. An opponent may be able to compete in some areas for some of the game, but rarely for an entire game, due to the fatigue from the WLU pressure.
    Team West Liberty at Concord Advantage to:
    Date 2/12/2022 2/12/2022
    Score 107-86 WLU
    w/l W WLU
    FG 34 26 WLU
    FGA 73 56 WLU
    FG Pct 47% 46% WLU
    3FG 10 7 WLU
    3 FGA 29 19 WLU
    3 FG PCT 34% 37% CU
    FT 29 27 WLU
    FTA 35 38 WLU
    FT PCT 83% 71% WLU
    Off Reb 13 1 WLU
    Def Reb 26 26 =
    Tot Reb 39 27 WLU
    PF 26 25 =
    Assist 18 14 WLU
    Turnovers 9 15 WLU
    Blk 2 2 =
    Steals 10 3 WLU
    Pts 107 86 WLU
    Avg Pts Per Game 99.4 78.3 WLU
    Steals per Forced Turnover 67% 33% WLU
    Assist to Turnover Ratio 2.00 0.93 WLU
    Assist per FG 53% 54% =
    Points Per FGA 1.47 1.54 CU
    Points Per Possession 1.27 0.99 WLU
    Num Possessions 84 87 =
    Opponent Defensive Rebounds 26 26 =
    Offensive Rebound Efficiency 33% 4% WLU
    Forced Turnovers 15 9 WLU
    Game num 27 27 =
    Two Pt FG % 54.5% 51.4% WLU
    Effective Shooting % 53.42% 52.68% WLU

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  • Scrub
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    Originally posted by Columbuseer View Post

    I share your concern. Fairmont barely defeated them recently. When they last beat us, coach May worked all week focusing on keeping us off the offensive glass.
    For all of his sideline antics--which the IUP posters got a kick out of when Concord visited the KCAC earlier in the season--May always finds a way to draw up something that breaks WLU's normal rhythm. It'll be on WLU's players not to take the bait and to "dance with who brung 'em," so to speak.

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  • Scrub
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    Originally posted by Columbuseer View Post
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    imho we have to win out, win the tourney and iup has to lose for us to host the regional. So a lot is riding on this game.
    This. One more loss of any kind (@ Concord, @ Fairmont, in the MEC tourney) and they better have their bags already packed for Indiana. WLU needs to win out and hope like heck that UPJ shows up the PSAC West finale or that IUP meets a tough matchup in the PSAC tourney (like the Mercyhurst situation from a few years ago) if they want to host this thing.

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