Originally posted by Columbuseer
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Totally agree. I hate the taunting and jawing, and I don't mind seeing a kid T'd up for it. In McKinney's case, I think it was a product of frustration after the WLU guys were getting banged around pretty good last night. Malik seems like a pretty easy-going guy on the court most of the time, but even the best of us can lose ourselves when pushed. -
Personally, I am glad about the crackdown on taunting. Nothing good comes from disrespecting someone, and in some situations, tragedy results from it. I learned that early in life in the Appalachian culture.Originally posted by Scrub View Post
I realize that they are emulating NBA behavior, but NBA players are entertainers that sell tickets, so refs have a whole different set of rules. StilI, I don't like it when NBA players do it.Leave a comment:
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Good points. I thought #23 for D&E was doing most of the heavy physical contact. He picked up a T in 2nd half on a no call collision with Marlon in the backcourt. Marlon crushed him. If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it! LolOriginally posted by Scrub View Post
He was really physcal with Malik, among others. Malik got the T after hitting a corner three on him, I think. Wonder if it was trash talk? Malik earned a trip to the bench for his bad choice.Leave a comment:
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I too noticed that D&E was attempting to pull the ball out and run clock after breaking the press. That's not necessarily a surprising move--teams like WVSU have used that strategy with some effectiveness.
What D&E also seemed to be doing (just anecdotal from watching) was trying to "rough it up" out there as well. It appeared to be a very physical game with bodies flying everywhere. With the slow pace and physical nature of the first half, I thought a PSAC game had broken out for a minute there! ; )
But to be quite honest, the physical approach of D&E did seem to have some WLU guys rattled. McKinney picked up a silly Technical, and you saw a lot more arms raised at referees from the WLU players than normal. Normally, WLU prides itself on being the ones doing the rattling with their constant pressure. It's typically the opponent who is raising their arms to the referees pleading for a bailout. But D&E had WLU a bit flustered with the physical play it seemed. But it just wasn't a sustainable effort from D&E, and the second half told the tale. But I do wonder if other teams will go to school on this tape and decide to try to get a bit more physical with WLU. The players have to show a bit more composure in that situation and just let the system work (which it eventually did in this game).Leave a comment:
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Observations from WLU at Davis and Elkins Jan 26, 2022- This was a tale of two halves, with D&E remaining within striking distance the first half.
- D&E used the strategy of pulling the ball out after breaking the press, rather than attacking the rim in transition. Their goal was to slow down the pace of the game by using much of the shot clock. However, they passed the ball during this period, rather than having the PG hold the ball until 12 seconds left (ala WV State) before starting the offense.
- WLU used their strategy to playing 10 players in two platoons, rotating them every 4 minutes. WLU started off a little shaky, by taking and missing some shots, although makeable, were not great shots.
- The first 9 minutes, the play was at a pace in the 40s, as D&E was making threes and keeping the game close. With 1:10 left, WLU led by 1 point at 33-32, with game pace having slowly increased to a mid-60s final score. WLU quickly forced 3 turnovers and scored 7 points in the final minute to end the half leading 40-32.
- Cracks were starting to occur in D&Es game due to the cumulative effect of incessant pressure.
- WLU scored 5 points in the first minute of the second half, forcing a timeout by D&E to right the ship. WLU was moving without the ball and rapidly rotating the ball, resulting in easy open look shots. D&E was getting very slow in their defensive rotations and close outs.
- By the 11 minute mark, the lead had swelled to 60-41, with D&E missing shots and turning the ball over. Again, the effects of mental and physical effects of fatigue.
- Our three-point shooters (i.e., everyone on the court) were getting wide open looks. Some were positioned at NBA 3 range and were excellent at rapid catch and shoot threes. The threes spread the defense, which opened the court for inside moves as well as drives.
- By the 7 minute mark, WLU led by 32 points, 74-42. D&E was gassed. At 3 minutes, the lead was 33 points, at 85-52. WLU experimented with different combinations, with the final score 90-73.
- Some player stats
- Eight players logged at least 15 minutes, with no one playing more than 28 minutes.
- Nine players made threes. Zach was 5 for 6, with some being beyond NBA range (not surprising, as he scored > 3,000 points in high school, second only to Jon Deebler as the most in Ohio history)
- WLU controlled the offensive glass, getting an amazing 44% of the caroms.
- WLU effective shooting % was 61.9%, which is incredible.
- Over 50% of the forced 18 turnovers were steals, which is an outstanding ratio.
Opponent at Davis & Elkins Date 01/26/22 Score 90-63 w/l W FG 32 FGA 63 FG Pct 51% 3 FG 14 3 FGA 30 3 FG PCT 47% FT 12 FTA 18 FT PCT 67% Off Reb 15 Def Reb 21 Tot Reb 36 Reb Per Game 39.0 PF 21 Assist 18 TO 11 Blk 4 Stl 9 Pts 90 Avg Pts Per Game 98.7 Steals per Forced TO 50% Assist to TO Ratio 1.64 Assist per FG 56% Points Per FGA 1.43 Points Per Possession 1.34 Num Possessions 67 OppDefReb 19 Off Reb Effic 44% Forced TO 18 Game num 19 Two Pt FG % 54.5% Effective Shooting 61.9% Leave a comment:
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Observations on the Wheeling Game 1/22/2022- Besides three-point shooting WLU has many different ways to win by 20+ points.
- Despite shooting an abysmal 9-41 (22%) from three, WLU still managed 1.22 points per possession, which is world class. How could this be? WLU made 68% of their 2-point attempts and 22-25 (88%) of their FTs, had a 1.82 assist to turnover ratio and got 37.5% of the rebounds off their offensive glass.
- WLU has shutdown defensive guards and forwards. Beyond the statistics, the pressure wears on teams.
- Over 50% of goals came on assists. Players are moving much better without the ball and setting off-ball screens and cutting crisply toward the opening inside.
- They forced 25 turnovers, of which 72% were steals. This is an amazing number, when 50% is outstanding.
- WLU is doing much better in avoiding offensive fouls. More jump stops
Opponent WHEELING Date 01/22/22 Score 109-85 w/l W FG 39 FGA 85 FG Pct 45.88% 3 FG 9 3 FGA 41 3 FG PCT 21.95% FT 22 FTA 25 FT PCT 88.00% Off Reb 18 Def Reb 27 Tot Reb 45 Reb Per Game 39.2 PF 28 Assist 20 TO 11 Blk 6 Stl 18 Pts 109 Avg Pts Per Game 99.2 Steals per Forced TO 72% Assist to TO Ratio 1.82 Assist per FG 51.3% Points Per FGA 1.28 Points Per Possession 1.22 Num Possessions 89 OppDefReb 30 Off Reb Effic 37.5% Forced TO 25 Game num 18 Two Pt FG % 68.18% Leave a comment:
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- 90th percentile (top 30) in 13 categories.
- Top 10 in 9 categories: Scoring, Assists, Scoring margin, steals, turnovers forced, Assist to turnover ratio, three point attempts and three point goals
- Nova SE and West Liberty are essentially equal in scoring offense
- It is impressive that WLU is #5 in assist to turnover ratio, given the rapid pace of play and the freedom for players to make decisions in real time.
- Sharing of basketball has caused assists to climb.
- Great athletes plus great effort yields outstanding steals per game, which are live ball turnovers that often result in transition scores.
- Despite not shooting over 40%, still making over 11 threes per game.
- Turnover margin allows us to get 8 more possessions a game. At 50% FG %, that is at least 8 points a game advantage.
Date National Ranking West Liberty rank Value 1/23/2022 Scoring Offense 1 99.20 1/23/2022 Assists Per Game 3 20.70 1/23/2022 Scoring Margin 3 19.00 1/23/2022 Steals Per Game 3 11.90 1/23/2022 Turnover Margin 3 8.10 1/23/2022 Turnovers Forced 3 20.50 1/23/2022 Assist Turnover Ratio 5 1.67 1/23/2022 Three-Point Attempts 9 534.00 1/23/2022 Three-Point Field Goals Per Game 10 11.10 1/23/2022 Free-Throw Attempts 14 380.00 1/23/2022 Offensive Rebounds per game 14 13.72 1/23/2022 Field-Goal Percentage 16 49.92 1/23/2022 Free-Throw Made 20 270.00 Leave a comment:
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It's actually untrue about the roster turnover. Their top 4 guys this season--Reid, Haines, Korte, & Gentry--are the same top 4 they've had for the past 3 years. And the 5th starter, Taylor, as well as sixth man, Price, are in their second year with the team. So roster turnover is not the issue at all. Coach turnover certainly is. But the roster is pretty stable all things considered.Originally posted by boatcapt View PostLeave a comment:
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It's tough when you are on your 3rd HC in three years! They "hit" in their first two but the new guy is struggling out of the gate. Haven't looked at their roster but I would imagine a 100% turnover over the last two years...heck, there just lucky someone remembers how to turn the gym lights on!!Leave a comment:
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At this point, I would assume that's what's happening. I wouldn't expect to see Yoakum this year. And I'm guessing that Yoakum's injury might be the only reason Webb (the only true freshman not otherwise redshirting) is burning his redshirt season. If Yoakum had been healthy coming out of preseason camp, I would guess that all 3 true frosh (Satterfield, Spadafora, & Webb) would have redshirted as is tradition in the WLU program.Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostLeave a comment:
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Medical redshirt at this point? Hate to see him burn a year on half a season.Leave a comment:
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I was in the building today, so I don't know about the broadcast. But the officiating crew was rough too. I just checked the box score--50 fouls were called. They were evenly split between teams, so that wasn't an issue. There simply wasn't any flow to the game. Makes it a lot harder to watch.Originally posted by Layton View PostLeave a comment:
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