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Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
They are. They are the definition of "Tomato Can." We have to play them because they are a conference school but any quality non-MEC school that schedules them has to be questioned for their commitment to playing a tough schedule.
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Originally posted by Columbuseer View PostThe last two games were at opposite ends of the spectrum.
WLU won against Elite 8 Daemen (with everyone back and healthy unlike their Mercyhurst game) in an ugly offensive game due to shutdown defense, especially in the last 5 minutes, where they totally disrupted them. Probably fatigue was a factor. They won despite a points per possession of 0.88! The 20+ turnovers offset their offensive woes.
At WV Wesleyan, WLU was playing at a high level offensively and defensively.
Points per possession of 1.56, which is among the highest ever recorded.
Forced 20+ turnovers
90+ % from FT line.
Hit 19 three at over 45%
10 guys scored 8 points or more and everyone played at least 13 minutes.
Whoever can figure out a way to narrow the variation in shooting percentage across games is going to make a lot of $. LOL
Research has shown that one factor that affects 3 point shooting is the distance of the opponent from the shooter - if opponent over 6 ft away, the percentage is significantly better.
Corner 3 pt shot is not an easier shot - it is because the opponent is often further away from the corner shooter.
Also explains why making the extra pass to give up a good shot for a great shot is often sucessful.
I suspect they go on a run but they can't lose too many more.
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Originally posted by Columbuseer View PostThe last two games were at opposite ends of the spectrum.
WLU won against Elite 8 Daemen (with everyone back and healthy unlike their Mercyhurst game) in an ugly offensive game due to shutdown defense, especially in the last 5 minutes, where they totally disrupted them. Probably fatigue was a factor. They won despite a points per possession of 0.88! The 20+ turnovers offset their offensive woes.
And, heck, the points per possession stat would have been even higher against WVWC if it weren't for about 10 silly turnovers once they got comfortable (read: sloppy) late in the second half.
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The last two games were at opposite ends of the spectrum.
WLU won against Elite 8 Daemen (with everyone back and healthy unlike their Mercyhurst game) in an ugly offensive game due to shutdown defense, especially in the last 5 minutes, where they totally disrupted them. Probably fatigue was a factor. They won despite a points per possession of 0.88! The 20+ turnovers offset their offensive woes.
At WV Wesleyan, WLU was playing at a high level offensively and defensively.
Points per possession of 1.56, which is among the highest ever recorded.
Forced 20+ turnovers
90+ % from FT line.
Hit 19 three at over 45%
10 guys scored 8 points or more and everyone played at least 13 minutes.
Whoever can figure out a way to narrow the variation in shooting percentage across games is going to make a lot of $. LOL
Research has shown that one factor that affects 3 point shooting is the distance of the opponent from the shooter - if opponent over 6 ft away, the percentage is significantly better.
Corner 3 pt shot is not an easier shot - it is because the opponent is often further away from the corner shooter.
Also explains why making the extra pass to give up a good shot for a great shot is often sucessful.
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Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
Hummmm...They had a second tomato can on their schedule in the form of Salem but Salem backed out. IUP is also no stranger to scheduling D3's as tomato can games. Last D3 IUP victim was Bethany which they beat by 61 points!
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
And, half the teams are playing D3s.
Joe's played 5 games .... 1 tomato can.
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Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
IUP schedules teams for it's tourney to fill certain roles. The role of WVW and Concord is not to win or even give IUP a tough game. Their purpose is to give IUP someone to practice against at game speed and under game circumstances and give the team a 2-0 start.
Joe's played 5 games .... 1 tomato can.
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Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
IUP schedules teams for it's tourney to fill certain roles. The role of WVW and Concord is not to win or even give IUP a tough game. Their purpose is to give IUP someone to practice against at game speed and under game circumstances and give the team a 2-0 start.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
In fairness, WVW was signed in to this deal a couple years ago when they weren't a total basement dweller. They did win at West Liberty in 2019.
Joe's kickoff tournament isn't overly attractive. You get IUP one night and UPJ the next. Good odds most teams are leaving Indiana 0-2.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
You never know. Look at Bowie State this year (0-6 so far) ... always a solid non-conference game. Virginia State is also a perennial power and they've now lost 4 in a row.
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Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
Yes...WLU has scheduled similar teams and they have been criticized for doing so. Other programs schedule equivalents of Clarion and Mansfield yet get praised for how tough they schedule.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
Right. Just like when you guys would play Clarion and Mansfield.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
In fairness, WVW was signed in to this deal a couple years ago when they weren't a total basement dweller. They did win at West Liberty in 2019.
Joe's kickoff tournament isn't overly attractive. You get IUP one night and UPJ the next. Good odds most teams are leaving Indiana 0-2.
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