West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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FYI
insincere carry started for Duquesne- 29 min, 9 assists , 2 steals, 7 points

Beat William and Mary 84-70

I watched him. He can play.

[boatcapt]

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WLU "lapped the MEC field" last year by 3 games over WJ and 4 games over Fairmont.

[Columbuseer]

Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball

FYI
insincere carry started for Duquesne- 29 min, 9 assists , 2 steals, 7 points

Beat William and Mary 84-70

[Layton]

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Getting fancy. They look great. Nice work.

Appreciate it, we finally discovered the internet on the hilltop :)

[IUP24]

High risk, high reward vs lower risk, high reward. WLU has always done things "differently" than other teams or the traditional ways of doing things AND they have been very successful at it. Now it appears, at least in scheduling, we are giving in to conventional wisdom and changing what we have been successful at. As happens in almost everything, a change in one area results in a change in other unanticipated areas. If we continue to schedule tough games to open the year, we are going to have to change how we approach the early season and the pre season camp. Also, you have to face the reality that there is a good chance you could have two more losses than you might typically have which will probably equal lower chances of hosting the Regional Tourney.

But weather it is a good idea or not, it seems like we have changed. We'll see starting this year weather that change produces good results and starting with the next recruiting class, we'll see if there are other unanticipated changes this focus on the early season causes.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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https://hilltoppersports.com/documen...ensBBGuide.pdfhttps://hilltoppersports.com/documen...ensBBGuide.pdf

Getting fancy. They look great. Nice work.

[Layton]

https://hilltoppersports.com/documen...ensBBGuide.pdfhttps://hilltoppersports.com/documen...ensBBGuide.pdf

[boatcapt]

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Fairmont State hosted and won in 2017.

You are RIGHT! How'd we miss that???

[Dirtybird]

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Fairmont State hosted and won in 2017.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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While it was a lot like hosting, WLU did technically win the Regionals on the road at WJU three years ago. Think that was the year that Hurst beat WJU at WJU. I think the last time the Regional host has won was when WLU won in 2013.

I thought it had been awhile. That's crazy.

No doubt, though, it helps the local economy for the host school.

I remember the game when Mercyhurst upset them. When the Lakers have the right athletes that zone they run can be deadly -- especially if you never see it. Even in their down years they are always a pain to play.

[boatcapt]

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Curious of the last 5 years how many 'hosts' actually won the regional? I don't know the answer off hand but from memory ESU hosted and lost. WL lost the year IUP beat them. Virginia State hosted and lost. Didn't Mercyhurst upset host Wheeling Jesuit a few years back?

While it was a lot like hosting, WLU did technically win the Regionals on the road at WJU three years ago. Think that was the year that Hurst beat WJU at WJU. I think the last time the Regional host has won was when WLU won in 2013. WLU's out of conference slate that year? Cedarville, Findlay, Point Park, PR-Mayaguez and PR-Bayamon.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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We'll see. Makes the game at King that much more important. That is a very losable game no matter how you cut it. Lose that and add a couple of losses in the very rugged MEC conference play and WLU could be sitting at four (or more) losses at the end of the regular season with probably a strong SOS. The wisdom here seems to be that a weak OOC slate is what has held the Toppers back over the last three seasons. We could see if that is the is true and playing Kutz, WCU and King but finishing the season with more L's results in a Regional hosting call.

Curious of the last 5 years how many 'hosts' actually won the regional? I don't know the answer off hand but from memory ESU hosted and lost. WL lost the year IUP beat them. Virginia State hosted and lost. Didn't Mercyhurst upset host Wheeling Jesuit a few years back?

[boatcapt]

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Not sure it really caused you a whole lot of damage. Granted, 0-2 would be a different conversation.

But, this seems to be a good year to lose one if you are going to lose one.

Many of the teams we expect to make noise got off to bad starts.

FSU has 2 losses. ESU, VSU, WCU and SRU are 0-8 combined. Kutztown dropped one. Virginia Union took a loss. Corcord has a loss. That was a HUGE weekend of top Atlantic teams playing each other.

Nobody is going undefeated. IUP still has Le Moyne, at Fairmont and the East Big 4 ... and then the West season.


I am interested to see the results of the upcoming Glenville and WVW games against WL. Both seem really improved.

Keep an eye on Shaw. We don't want them hosting. Talk about homecourt advantage. That's like a shoebox.

We'll see. Makes the game at King that much more important. That is a very losable game no matter how you cut it. Lose that and add a couple of losses in the very rugged MEC conference play and WLU could be sitting at four (or more) losses at the end of the regular season with probably a strong SOS. The wisdom here seems to be that a weak OOC slate is what has held the Toppers back over the last three seasons. We could see if that is the is true and playing Kutz, WCU and King but finishing the season with more L's results in a Regional hosting call.

Interesting point, but WLU's next three opponents are sitting at 2-0. There is some smoke and mirrors there but all, including upcoming Salem, are looking down at 1-1 WLU right now.

[Dirtybird]

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WL sitting at 1-1 after 2 games against strong competition is not going to make or break them when it comes to hosting in my opinion. It is also my opinion that even though WL has been use to hosting or at least in the conversation...it is just not good to put the cart so far in front of the horse.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball

High risk, high reward vs lower risk, high reward. WLU has always done things "differently" than other teams or the traditional ways of doing things AND they have been very successful at it. Now it appears, at least in scheduling, we are giving in to conventional wisdom and changing what we have been successful at. As happens in almost everything, a change in one area results in a change in other unanticipated areas. If we continue to schedule tough games to open the year, we are going to have to change how we approach the early season and the pre season camp. Also, you have to face the reality that there is a good chance you could have two more losses than you might typically have which will probably equal lower chances of hosting the Regional Tourney.

But weather it is a good idea or not, it seems like we have changed. We'll see starting this year weather that change produces good results and starting with the next recruiting class, we'll see if there are other unanticipated changes this focus on the early season causes.

Not sure it really caused you a whole lot of damage. Granted, 0-2 would be a different conversation.

But, this seems to be a good year to lose one if you are going to lose one.

Many of the teams we expect to make noise got off to bad starts.

FSU has 2 losses. ESU, VSU, WCU and SRU are 0-8 combined. Kutztown dropped one. Virginia Union took a loss. Corcord has a loss. That was a HUGE weekend of top Atlantic teams playing each other.

Nobody is going undefeated. IUP still has Le Moyne, at Fairmont and the East Big 4 ... and then the West season.


I am interested to see the results of the upcoming Glenville and WVW games against WL. Both seem really improved.

Keep an eye on Shaw. We don't want them hosting. Talk about homecourt advantage. That's like a shoebox.