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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by Golden89 View Post

    Why does the CIAA think that it's good for its teams to have a two-week break between the conference tournament an the first round of the NCAA regionals? Never could figure this one out.
    Their tournament is treated as a massive social event. The games are just part of it. I guess they need travel time.

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  • boatcapt
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    Originally posted by Golden89 View Post

    Why does the CIAA think that it's good for its teams to have a two-week break between the conference tournament an the first round of the NCAA regionals? Never could figure this one out.
    CIAA always seems to march to the beat of a different drum!

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  • Inkblot
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    Here's my projection for this week's ranking:
    1. Indiana (22-2) [1]
    2. West Liberty (22-4) [3]
    3. Charleston (21-5) [5]
    4. Fairmont State (19-6) [4]
    5. Shippensburg (19-6) [2]
    6. Virginia State (19-8) [6]
    7. Johnson C. Smith (19-7) [10]
    8. Mercyhurst (16-7) [NR]
    9. West Virginia State (17-7) [7]
    10. Virginia Union (18-10) [NR]
    Bowie State's presence in last week's rankings is messing with my head a bit. If the committee repeats the same process that put the Bulldogs into the rankings, it may very well result in Virginia Union being ranked this week. VUU has the #10 regional RPI and a sweep of Virginia State. (VSU, VUU, and Johnson C. Smith have earned three of the four first-round byes available in the CIAA tournament, which begins Tuesday in Charlotte.)

    It's also quite possible that Pitt Johnstown stays in. I think West Virginia State's wins over the #2 and #3 teams in the region will be enough to keep WVSU in. California will now have a win over a ranked opponent, with Mercyhurst presumably cracking the top 10; completing the sweep would be extremely valuable to the Vulcans.

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  • Golden89
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Outside of IUP being ranked first and West Liberty being second ... take your guess. That said, here's where the records fall after this past weekend. Of note, the CIAA regular season is complete.

    Why does the CIAA think that it's good for its teams to have a two-week break between the conference tournament an the first round of the NCAA regionals? Never could figure this one out.

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  • boatcapt
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Outside of IUP being ranked first and West Liberty being second ... take your guess. That said, here's where the records fall after this past weekend. Of note, the CIAA regular season is complete.

    MEN'S

    1. IUP (18-2, 23-2)
    2. West Liberty (17-3, 22-4)

    Next 3 (listed by losses only):

    Charleston (15-5, 21-5)
    Fairmont State (14-6, 20-6)
    Shippensburg (16-4, 20-6)

    Final 3 spots (listed by losses only):

    Fayetteville State (10-7, 21-7)
    Pitt-Johnstown (14-6, 20-7)
    Johnson C. Smith (13-4, 19-7)
    West Virginia State (13-7, 18-7)
    Mercyhurst (15-5, 17-7)
    Virginia State (12-3, 19-8)
    West Chester (12-8, 18-8)
    California (14-6, 18-8)
    East Stroudsburg (13-7, 17-8)
    Virginia Union (11-4, 18-10)
    Winston-Salem State (12-4, 15-10)
    Curious what Ships record is against ranked teams? If memory serves me, that is one of the selection criteria. Wonder how they stack up against fellow 6-loss Fairmont and the 7-loss teams? WV State is 2-3 (W's over WLU and Fairmont) vs ranked teams and Fairmont is 4-3 (W's over Ship and UC and two W's over WV State).
    Last edited by boatcapt; 02-24-2020, 03:35 PM.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Outside of IUP being ranked first and West Liberty being second ... take your guess. That said, here's where the records fall after this past weekend. Of note, the CIAA regular season is complete.

    MEN'S

    1. IUP (18-2, 23-2)
    2. West Liberty (17-3, 22-4)

    Next 3 (listed by losses only):

    Charleston (15-5, 21-5)
    Fairmont State (14-6, 20-6)
    Shippensburg (16-4, 20-6)

    Final 3 spots (listed by losses only):

    Fayetteville State (10-7, 21-7)
    Pitt-Johnstown (14-6, 20-7)
    Johnson C. Smith (13-4, 19-7)
    West Virginia State (13-7, 18-7)
    Mercyhurst (15-5, 17-7)
    Virginia State (12-3, 19-8)
    West Chester (12-8, 18-8)
    California (14-6, 18-8)
    East Stroudsburg (13-7, 17-8)
    Virginia Union (11-4, 18-10)
    Winston-Salem State (12-4, 15-10)

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    West Liberty just thumped Fairmont State.

    It's clear IUP and WL have the top two spots. Beyond that ... have fun.

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  • CALUPA69
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    Don't forget 10-loss Virginia Union (who swept Va State). We've already seen one 10-loss team ranked. Winston-Salem is another candidate.

    West Chester is also still alive.

    The thing killing Cal is they have so few big wins. They've lost to just about every good team they've played in the West and also lost to Bowie and Charleston (by 3 pts combined).

    ESU has the same problem. They have the Ship win but not much else on the resume in regard to big wins.
    The MOUNTAIN CATS OF UPJ ???

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

    Teams that are in at this point:

    IUP
    WLU
    Fairmont
    UC

    Teams that still have work to do but control their own destiny:

    ??????WV State
    Ship

    Teams that need to play well through their tourney and hope others falter:

    JC Smith
    Fayet State
    VA State
    Hurst
    Cal
    ESU

    Of course, there is also the wild card route of winning a conf tourney. If an outsider (or even two) does that, it could boot a quality team.
    Don't forget 10-loss Virginia Union (who swept Va State). We've already seen one 10-loss team ranked. Winston-Salem is another candidate.

    West Chester is also still alive.

    The thing killing Cal is they have so few big wins. They've lost to just about every good team they've played in the West and also lost to Bowie and Charleston (by 3 pts combined).

    ESU has the same problem. They have the Ship win but not much else on the resume in regard to big wins.

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  • boatcapt
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    I get what you are saying. I'm saying that they have a lot of work to do to have a chance.

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  • IUP24
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    Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

    Teams that are in at this point:

    IUP
    WLU
    Fairmont
    UC

    Teams that still have work to do but control their own destiny:

    ??????WV State
    Ship

    Teams that need to play well through their tourney and hope others falter:

    JC Smith
    Fayet State
    VA State
    Hurst
    Cal
    ESU

    Of course, there is also the wild card route of winning a conf tourney. If an outsider (or even two) does that, it could boot a quality team.

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  • boatcapt
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    Originally posted by IUP24 View Post

    I'll repeat... I can't wait for Mercyhurst to get in and win their first round game... I just hope it's against somebody other than IUP.
    Teams that are in at this point:

    IUP
    WLU
    Fairmont
    UC

    Teams that still have work to do but control their own destiny:

    ??????WV State
    Ship

    Teams that need to play well through their tourney and hope others falter:

    JC Smith
    Fayet State
    VA State
    Hurst
    Cal
    ESU

    Of course, there is also the wild card route of winning a conf tourney. If an outsider (or even two) does that, it could boot a quality team.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by IUP24 View Post

    I'll repeat... I can't wait for Mercyhurst to get in and win their first round game... I just hope it's against somebody other than IUP.
    Mercyhurst is a lot like IUP this year in that both lost their star post player for the season very early. The Lakers lost their prized import in their exhibition game. ESU lost their star in the fall, too. It's pretty incredible all have done so well after sustaining such losses.

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  • IUP24
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    Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

    Hursts NCAA partisipation will hinge on how well (or poorly) they do in the PSAC tourney. First round loss and they won't get an invitation to the dance...win one but lose the next, MAYBE they get a ticket (depending on what happens in other conferences)...win 2+, they are probably in.
    I'll repeat... I can't wait for Mercyhurst to get in and win their first round game... I just hope it's against somebody other than IUP.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

    Hursts NCAA partisipation will hinge on how well (or poorly) they do in the PSAC tourney. First round loss and they won't get an invitation to the dance...win one but lose the next, MAYBE they get a ticket (depending on what happens in other conferences)...win 2+, they are probably in.
    They have a tough week upcoming. Cal and SRU.

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