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    Coach K record at UCM 100-62. At present Conference record 54-48. First year record 25-7. Conference 14-5. Since first year. 75-55. Conference 40-43. Take away 4-easy wins a year against vastly inferior competition it is not a pretty picture. I have been ranting since year 3 it is not getting better.

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    MIAA is a strong conference. You are basically .500 after his first season. Considering we have national power Northwest in the league, it’s not shameful or dismal to be .500. I understand wanting to be near the top every year, but doesn’t everyone? Instead, in a balanced league there ends up being a large number of teams within a few games of .500, one way or the other.

    now, if you miss the MIAA postseason tourney a couple of years in a row, that’s very frustrating and probably time to move on.

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    • #3
      Prior to this post you were containing yourself?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by MrAugustana View Post
        Prior to this post you were containing yourself?
        Yes, I waited until January this year to gripe

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        • #5
          UCM knocked off NW and ended their winning streak earlier this year. That's got to give Coach K at least 2 more years of leeway after this year.

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          • #6
            Are you a relative, of his. PLEASE!!. For real these last 5 years have definitely not lived up to UCM standards only 1 post season his first year when he didn't recruit those players.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mule4ever View Post
              Coach K record at UCM 100-62. At present Conference record 54-48. First year record 25-7. Conference 14-5. Since first year. 75-55. Conference 40-43. Take away 4-easy wins a year against vastly inferior competition it is not a pretty picture. I have been ranting since year 3 it is not getting better.
              I wondered after seeing that they lost at Newman how long it would take to get the “Fire Karleskint” rants going. Hats off to Mule4ever as he made my day by not disappointing me!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mule4ever View Post
                Are you a relative, of his. PLEASE!!. For real these last 5 years have definitely not lived up to UCM standards only 1 post season his first year when he didn't recruit those players.
                Sorry, should have added sarcasm font to help you. Or maybe not. As a NW fan, I'm perfectly happy with Coach K at UCM for as long as possible.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by NWHoops View Post
                  UCM knocked off NW and ended their winning streak earlier this year. That's got to give Coach K at least 2 more years of leeway after this year.
                  And those of us up here are very grateful for that.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MisterWizard View Post
                    MIAA is a strong conference. You are basically .500 after his first season. Considering we have national power Northwest in the league, it’s not shameful or dismal to be .500. I understand wanting to be near the top every year, but doesn’t everyone? Instead, in a balanced league there ends up being a large number of teams within a few games of .500, one way or the other.

                    now, if you miss the MIAA postseason tourney a couple of years in a row, that’s very frustrating and probably time to move on.
                    If you're being sarcastic, I apologize. If not, I call BS. If Boschee were to leave at the end of the year and the next coach after 1 good season misses the NCAA tournament for the next 5 (this year will be Coach K's 5th consecutive season), I doubt you're attitude will be "Oh well, the MIAA is a tough league".

                    I first attened CentralMO in 1979. In the 40+ years I've followed the Mules (most of which as a season ticket holder) only 1 other coach has missed the NCAA tourney 5 consecutive seasons, Don Doucette.

                    A little Mule NCAA tournament history from the time frame I mentioned:

                    Tom Smith made the field in 1980 and left.
                    Lynn Nance made the field all 5 years.
                    Jim Wooldridge missed his first 3 years (only 32 teams made the field) and made it his final 3.
                    Jerry Hughes missed in his interim season.
                    Bob Sundvold missed in his first season and made it in his final 3.
                    Don Doucette made it in his first season and missed in his final 5.
                    Kim Anderson missed in his first 2 seasons and made it in 7 of his final 10 seasons (3 in - 1 out - 2 in - 2 out - 2 in).
                    Doug Karleskint made it in his first season and has missed in the next 4 and will make it 5 in a couple of months.

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                    • #11
                      I wasn’t being sarcastic. I WAS talking about the MIAA part, whereas your facts are around the NCAA tourney. I was trying to make a point how difficult it is to consistently finish in the upper echelon of the league. I stand by that and while it is of course the wants and wishes of every fan, only the top programs can be there and stay there if they really have things going their way for a long stretch. Both McCollum and Boschee have that right now, but I think both understand how quickly a program could find itself in the middle of the pack in a tough conference.

                      Now, as to the NCAA Tournament, I’ve never taken it for granted and in fact was sweating it out again this past March when we lost in the MIAA Tourney first round in KC (technically the second round with its current format). Most MIAA teams are 0 for 5 in making it there during Karlisant’s tenure at UCM.

                      Most of us DON’T expect to make it year after year. But we do appreciate it when we do get there.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mule4ever View Post
                        Coach K record at UCM 100-62. At present Conference record 54-48. First year record 25-7. Conference 14-5. Since first year. 75-55. Conference 40-43. Take away 4-easy wins a year against vastly inferior competition it is not a pretty picture. I have been ranting since year 3 it is not getting better.
                        Coach K is in the final year of his contract......he's gone and he knows it.

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                        • #13
                          Thanks for the replies KMA. and Randy. While recruiting can be tough I just dont see bringing in a heavy freshman class without proven players ahead of them on the depth chart as a way to sustain a top record in this tough conference. Not enough big time juco players and players from D1 who wanted playing time were brought in. Also several good players transfered out. Im mostly frustrated by the fact that the Multi is no longer a huge home advantage and that he has a losing road record. Plus no post season appearances with his players. Why give a 6year contract, before game one. Just because the coach was good at another school doesn't mean they will be good at a different school.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mule4ever View Post
                            Thanks for the replies KMA. and Randy. While recruiting can be tough I just dont see bringing in a heavy freshman class without proven players ahead of them on the depth chart as a way to sustain a top record in this tough conference. Not enough big time juco players and players from D1 who wanted playing time were brought in. Also several good players transfered out. Im mostly frustrated by the fact that the Multi is no longer a huge home advantage and that he has a losing road record. Plus no post season appearances with his players. Why give a 6year contract, before game one. Just because the coach was good at another school doesn't mean they will be good at a different school.
                            I don't know that he originally got a six year contract. Maybe he got a couple of three year contracts. During football season I was told by a creditable source that coach K was in the final year of his current contract and barring some miracle turn around (it ain't happening) he would be let go at seasons end. Coach K certainly must see the hand writing on the wall and know that he's toast.

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                            • #15
                              Just seems like that is the A.D. time table as the last sucky coach also got 6 years. Should have got him out after 4 years. If and when the team starts winning again I predict the Multi will again be filled with rabid fans.

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