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  • loper legionnaire
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    Not sure if this was meant to be an NSIC-only discussion, so apologies if I'm hijacking it. But if we're talking coaches on the hot seat, Kevin Lofton from Nebraska-Kearney has to be on it.

    At 5-20 (3-16), the Loper men need to win two of their final three games to avoid finishing with their fewest wins in a season since the 1967-68 team finished with just five wins.

    Lofton's teams have been largely mediocre aside from his first two seasons without the co-head coach title with Tom Kropp, including losing records in three straight years and four of the past five.

    2015-16 21-12 (14-8); NCAA Central Regional 2nd Round
    2016-17 20-10 (12-7)
    2017-18 16-14 (11-8)
    2018-19 10-18 (5-14)
    2019-20 16-13 (10-9)
    2020-21 8-14 (8-14)
    2021-22 11-17 (7-15)
    2022-23 5-20 (3-16) - with 3 games remaining

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  • debergfan
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    Northern State 2020-21 13 1
    Northern State 2021-22 13 9
    Northern State 2022-23 14 3
    Northern State 58 17 75 77%
    Duluth 2022-23 12 5
    Duluth 2021-22 16 4
    Duluth 2020-21 5 7
    Duluth 2019-20 15 7
    Duluth 2018-19 14 8
    Duluth 62 31 93 67%
    Mankato 2008-09* 14 6
    Mankato 2009-10* 17 3
    Mankato 2010-11 19 3
    Mankato 2011-12* 6 15
    Mankato 2012-13* 18 4
    Mankato 2013-14 19 3
    Mankato 2014-15* 17 5
    Mankato 2015-16* 15 7
    Mankato 2016-17* 14 8
    Mankato 2017-18 16 6
    Mankato 2018-19 14 8
    Mankato 2019-20 12 10
    Mankato 2020-21 9 5
    Mankato 2021-22 9 9
    Mankato 2022-23 8 9
    Mankato 207 101 308 67%
    Augustana 2008-09* 13 7
    Augustana 2009-10* 15 5
    Augustana 2010-11 15 7
    Augustana 2011-12* 14 8
    Augustana 2012-13* 15 7
    Augustana 2013-14 12 10
    Augustana 2014-15* 20 2
    Augustana 2015-16* 21 1
    Augustana 2016-17* 16 6
    Augustana 2017-18 10 12
    Augustana 2018-19 14 8
    Augustana 2019-20 13 9
    Augustana 2020-21 7 6
    Augustana 2021-22 17 2
    Augustana 2022-23 7 10
    Augustana 209 100 309 68%
    Upper Iowa 2022-23 10 7
    Upper Iowa 2021-22 18 4
    Upper Iowa 2020-21 8 4
    Upper Iowa 2019-20 15 7
    Upper Iowa 2018-19 4 18
    Upper Iowa 2017-18 10 12
    Upper Iowa 2016-17 16 6
    Upper Iowa 2015-16 11 11
    Upper Iowa 2014-15 12 10
    Upper Iowa 2013-14 13 9
    Upper Iowa 117 88 205 57%
    winona 2022-23 7 10
    winona 2021-22 11 9
    winona 2020-21 5 5
    winona 2019-20 14 8
    winona 2018-19 9 13
    winona 2017-18 14 8
    winona 2016-17 8 14
    winona 2015-16 13 9
    winona 74 66 140 53%
    SW 2010-11 9 13
    SW 2011-12 15 7
    SW 2012-13 13 9
    SW 2013-14 14 8
    SW 2014-15 8 14
    SW 2015-16 9 13
    SW 2016-17 17 5
    SW 2017-18 17 5
    SW 2018-19 10 12
    SW 2019-20 5 17
    SW 2020-21 1 6
    SW 2021-22 10 10
    SW 2022-23 10 7
    SW 138 126 264 52%
    USF 2022-23 11 6
    USF 2021-22 7 12
    USF 2020-21 5 5
    USF 2019-20 17 5
    USF 2018-19 13 9
    USF 2017-18 14 8
    USF 2016-17 10 12
    USF 2015-16 11 11
    USF 2014-15 5 17
    USF 2013-14 12 11
    USF 2012-13 8 14
    USF 113 110 223 51%
    Wayne 2022-23 11 6
    Wayne 2021-22 11 8
    Wayne 2020-21 10 4
    Wayne 2019-20 7 15
    Wayne 2018-19 14 8
    Wayne 2017-18 9 13
    Wayne 2016-17 8 14
    Wayne 70 68 138 51%
    Bemidji State 2012-13 13 9
    Bemidji State 2013-14 15 7
    Bemidji State 2014-15 4 18
    Bemidji State 2015-16 7 15
    Bemidji State 2016-17 8 14
    Bemidji State 2017-18 9 13
    Bemidji State 2018-19 6 16
    Bemidji State 2019-20 11 11
    Bemidji State 2020-21 6 8
    Bemidji State 2021-22 5 16
    Bemidji State 2022-23 10 7
    Bemidji State 94 134 228 41%
    Minot 2012-13 9 13
    Minot 2013-14 4 18
    Minot 2014-15 9 13
    Minot 2015-16 10 12
    Minot 2016-17 10 12
    Minot 2017-18 13 9
    Minot 2018-19 9 13
    Minot 2019-20 4 18
    Minot 2020-21 6 4
    Minot 2021-22 9 9
    Minot 2022-23 6 11
    Minot 89 132 221 40%
    UMary 2021-22 7 10
    UMary 2021-22 9 12
    UMary 16 22 38 24%
    CSP 2022-23 5 12
    CSP 2021-22 2 19
    CSP 2020-21 0 10
    CSP 7 41 15%

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  • voicefromthestands
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    Originally posted by NWHoops View Post

    Saul is younger than I thought, he's probably right on the border between a long-term and mid-term hire. Personally, I've always been impressed with Bigler- how his teams play, his interviews and perspective, how he runs his program, etc.

    Ben does have asst experience at Emporia St for 4 years before coming back to NW. He served under David Moe who had D1 and NBA experience (father was Doug Moe). Anyone who has been to Maryville wouldn't question whether he can win at another place if they saw the town or facilities. Those 2 things aren't really big draws (about 10,000 people in a rural community and a gym that is smaller and not as updated as what some of these guys played in HS).
    Iba did it !!!

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  • NWHoops
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    Originally posted by MrAugustana View Post

    One counterpoint (more for discussion than anything) is whether or not it matters to people that Bigler's only college coaching experience is with SMSU. Yes, he's won with a tough budget, etc. and that's impressive, but I'd be curious to know how other people do/don't value a variety of experience.

    For example, Wieck has learned from different coaches, been part of different programs, etc. It's possible he's picked up things along the way that have helped him develop and also helped him understand how to work under different athletic departments/administrations, different circumstances, etc.

    The counterpoint to this would be, "Look at Ben McCollum." Obviously anyone would be an idiot to argue with his success after having spent most (all?) of his career at NWMSU. At the same time, I've wondered if him not having experience outside of NWMSU has hurt his ability to move up to the D1 level. When I check message boards from programs that he's rumored to be in the running for, that's always the biggest pushback on him: "Sure he won there, but do we have any indication he can win here too?" (Personally I'd say yes, most likely he will, but that's neither here nor there...that's just the question that gets asked.)

    I think about a coach like Billeter, and he has previous D2 head coaching experience at NDSU and something like 10+ years as a D1 assistant coach at high-major universities. I've heard him mention stuff on post-game radio interviews like "I learned that from Lute Olson at Arizona..." more than once. I would imagine a lot of that helped him prepare for the job at Augie, which was bringing a program that was basically in the toilet in 2003 and turning it into a national contender.

    So yes, Bigler has shown he can have seasons of success at SMSU, but I'm curious about how that would or wouldn't translate to a program like St. Cloud, Moorhead, etc. Maybe he'd come in and be even more successful being better funded and better resourced, but I think it presents an interesting question. In that regard, I think Wieck, Saul Phillips, etc. and their varied experience would push them higher on the list for me than Bigler. Particularly Phillips, as he's proven he can run a program at multiple levels (even if his stint at Ohio didn't go as well as he probably would've liked).

    Like I said, just something I've been considering as I've read through this thread.
    Saul is younger than I thought, he's probably right on the border between a long-term and mid-term hire. Personally, I've always been impressed with Bigler- how his teams play, his interviews and perspective, how he runs his program, etc.

    Ben does have asst experience at Emporia St for 4 years before coming back to NW. He served under David Moe who had D1 and NBA experience (father was Doug Moe). Anyone who has been to Maryville wouldn't question whether he can win at another place if they saw the town or facilities. Those 2 things aren't really big draws (about 10,000 people in a rural community and a gym that is smaller and not as updated as what some of these guys played in HS).

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  • MrAugustana
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    Originally posted by Stanger86 View Post

    I almost bumped Bigler above Wieck but didn't want to be viewed as a homer.
    One counterpoint (more for discussion than anything) is whether or not it matters to people that Bigler's only college coaching experience is with SMSU. Yes, he's won with a tough budget, etc. and that's impressive, but I'd be curious to know how other people do/don't value a variety of experience.

    For example, Wieck has learned from different coaches, been part of different programs, etc. It's possible he's picked up things along the way that have helped him develop and also helped him understand how to work under different athletic departments/administrations, different circumstances, etc.

    The counterpoint to this would be, "Look at Ben McCollum." Obviously anyone would be an idiot to argue with his success after having spent most (all?) of his career at NWMSU. At the same time, I've wondered if him not having experience outside of NWMSU has hurt his ability to move up to the D1 level. When I check message boards from programs that he's rumored to be in the running for, that's always the biggest pushback on him: "Sure he won there, but do we have any indication he can win here too?" (Personally I'd say yes, most likely he will, but that's neither here nor there...that's just the question that gets asked.)

    I think about a coach like Billeter, and he has previous D2 head coaching experience at NDSU and something like 10+ years as a D1 assistant coach at high-major universities. I've heard him mention stuff on post-game radio interviews like "I learned that from Lute Olson at Arizona..." more than once. I would imagine a lot of that helped him prepare for the job at Augie, which was bringing a program that was basically in the toilet in 2003 and turning it into a national contender.

    So yes, Bigler has shown he can have seasons of success at SMSU, but I'm curious about how that would or wouldn't translate to a program like St. Cloud, Moorhead, etc. Maybe he'd come in and be even more successful being better funded and better resourced, but I think it presents an interesting question. In that regard, I think Wieck, Saul Phillips, etc. and their varied experience would push them higher on the list for me than Bigler. Particularly Phillips, as he's proven he can run a program at multiple levels (even if his stint at Ohio didn't go as well as he probably would've liked).

    Like I said, just something I've been considering as I've read through this thread.

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  • Stanger86
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    Originally posted by NWHoops View Post
    My choices (albeit I'm farther removed than the NSIC fans so they have a better perspective):

    1. Bigler- Less funding than other programs (not fully funded if I recall correctly), is still in his early 40s, some Regional success (finals and semi-finals appearances), fairly consistent winner (.554 winning percentage)

    2. Wieck- Overall .578 winning percentage but .694 at UMD. Late 30s, no real Regional success but who knows this year if Andrews doesn't get hurt. Not a long track record at this point. Another 2- 3 years of sustained success and some Regional noise and he moves up to #1

    3. McKowen- As mentioned does more with less. .574 winning percentage but no real noise in the Regionals (a couple first rounds and a semi-final this year)


    Obviously, in the short-term you go with Billeter but at 61 you have to wonder how many more years he will be at it if you are looking for a long-term hire.

    Winning percentages came from Wikipedia so I apologize in advance if it is inaccurate.
    I almost bumped Bigler above Wieck but didn't want to be viewed as a homer.

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  • NWHoops
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    My choices (albeit I'm farther removed than the NSIC fans so they have a better perspective):

    1. Bigler- Less funding than other programs (not fully funded if I recall correctly), is still in his early 40s, some Regional success (finals and semi-finals appearances), fairly consistent winner (.554 winning percentage)

    2. Wieck- Overall .578 winning percentage but .694 at UMD. Late 30s, no real Regional success but who knows this year if Andrews doesn't get hurt. Not a long track record at this point. Another 2- 3 years of sustained success and some Regional noise and he moves up to #1

    3. McKowen- As mentioned does more with less. .574 winning percentage but no real noise in the Regionals (a couple first rounds and a semi-final this year)


    Obviously, in the short-term you go with Billeter but at 61 you have to wonder how many more years he will be at it if you are looking for a long-term hire.

    Winning percentages came from Wikipedia so I apologize in advance if it is inaccurate.

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  • vikingfaithful
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    Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View Post

    Brooks McKowen

    He checks the boxes and his name is closest to Ben McCollum
    Easily Brooks McKowen. He coaches at Upper Iowa the smallest campus and in the smallest town in the NSIC. He is successful at a school with little success in athletics.

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  • Purple Mav Man
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    Originally posted by NWHoops View Post
    I've enjoyed this conversation from a distance. Fun question- if you are an AD and are making a hire today with the following qualities in mind:

    - Demonstrated ability to win consistently
    - Long term hire (looking on the younger side with the hope they will be there for many years, not the backend of a career)
    - Graduates players and develops them as both players and individuals

    Who are you picking as your next head coach from the current NSIC coaches? Feel free to add your own qualifications but I think those are ones that would be at the top of my list. Based on those, I know who I would pick today but interested to hear perspectives of others.
    Brooks McKowen

    He checks the boxes and his name is closest to Ben McCollum
    Last edited by Purple Mav Man; 08-22-2022, 01:36 PM.

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  • NWHoops
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    Originally posted by Thunder View Post

    Interesting question. The Long-Term hire is the tricky part here. If you get someone nearing the backend of a career, you would likely only have them for 5-10 more years? Depending on the coach, I'd take 10 years of highly successful basketball. On the other hand, there are some guys who will be coaching for 20+ more years. The problem with them is, if you have the success you are hoping for, you will continually be looking over your shoulder for them to move on to greener pastures. Such is the life of D2 basketball.

    I think Phillips and Billeter are the top coaches in the conference. However, you may not be getting either of them long-term due to possible retirement or possibly moving back to the D1 ranks. Of the younger coaches, I would say McKowen from UIU would be my pick. He has made the Peacocks a pretty consistent program with much less to work with than some of his peers. The other option would be Wieck from UMD. He seems to have the start to a pretty good program and has been able to recruit pretty well. I'm not the biggest fan of his, but I think he will have success.
    Good point on defining long-term. In today's world, I'd consider anything over 10 years long-term, 5-10 mid-term, and less than 5 would be short-term.

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  • Stanger86
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    Originally posted by NWHoops View Post
    I've enjoyed this conversation from a distance. Fun question- if you are an AD and are making a hire today with the following qualities in mind:

    - Demonstrated ability to win consistently
    - Long term hire (looking on the younger side with the hope they will be there for many years, not the backend of a career)
    - Graduates players and develops them as both players and individuals

    Who are you picking as your next head coach from the current NSIC coaches? Feel free to add your own qualifications but I think those are ones that would be at the top of my list. Based on those, I know who I would pick today but interested to hear perspectives of others.
    1. Justin Wieck - Arguably the biggest rising star on the list. Created a winning basketball program at a hockey school.
    2. Brad Bigler - Yes, he's the oldest on this list but with that age comes the experience of knowing how to build a program culture. Marshall is not an easy place to win, especially with the program's budget. I don't think you could ask much more out of him.
    3. Brooks McKowen - Has really created a strong foothold in Iowa.

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  • Thunder
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    Originally posted by NWHoops View Post
    I've enjoyed this conversation from a distance. Fun question- if you are an AD and are making a hire today with the following qualities in mind:

    - Demonstrated ability to win consistently
    - Long term hire (looking on the younger side with the hope they will be there for many years, not the backend of a career)
    - Graduates players and develops them as both players and individuals

    Who are you picking as your next head coach from the current NSIC coaches? Feel free to add your own qualifications but I think those are ones that would be at the top of my list. Based on those, I know who I would pick today but interested to hear perspectives of others.
    Interesting question. The Long-Term hire is the tricky part here. If you get someone nearing the backend of a career, you would likely only have them for 5-10 more years? Depending on the coach, I'd take 10 years of highly successful basketball. On the other hand, there are some guys who will be coaching for 20+ more years. The problem with them is, if you have the success you are hoping for, you will continually be looking over your shoulder for them to move on to greener pastures. Such is the life of D2 basketball.

    I think Phillips and Billeter are the top coaches in the conference. However, you may not be getting either of them long-term due to possible retirement or possibly moving back to the D1 ranks. Of the younger coaches, I would say McKowen from UIU would be my pick. He has made the Peacocks a pretty consistent program with much less to work with than some of his peers. The other option would be Wieck from UMD. He seems to have the start to a pretty good program and has been able to recruit pretty well. I'm not the biggest fan of his, but I think he will have success.

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  • vikingfaithful
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    NSU has been more consistent in conference play than AU, even the Vikings National Championship season's only blemish was a loss to the Wolves.

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  • Moorhead123
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    Originally posted by Thunder View Post

    I guess that kind of depends on what time frame you are talking about. Over the last 10 seasons NSU is 154-58 (.726) in conference with 4 regular season and 4 tourney championships and zero losing seasons. Augie is 145-63 (.697) in conference with 3 regular season and 2 tourney championships and one losing season.

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