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  • Will we have football in the fall?

    Just from reading and listening to the news, this is what I figure will have to happen for football to happen this fall in all Divisions of the NCAA.
    1. The NCAA, Governors of each state and the Conferences will have to come to agreement to open the practices and play. If one of them says no, especially the Governors it may have an impact on the whole conference.
    2. Will the Schools reopen in the fall for classes or will it be on line learning again?
    3. Have student athletes remained eligible for the fall and did the NCAA / Schools clear them?
    4. The state of Hawaii has basically isolated it self from the rest of the Country. Will the team have to go in to isolation for 14 days to play a game in Hawaii? Maybe the answer is for the Mountain West to drop Hawaii from the schedule while the 14 day requirement is in place.
    5. Will Conferences that are within a state like Texas, will the LSC play just a conference schedule? Will the N.M. schools get to play?
    6. Public schools will have to listen to the Governors of each state. Will the private schools rebel against the Governors (Azusa Pacific come to mind.).

    I may have opened a bag of worms with this one.

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    The NCAA issued guidelines for restarting fall sports on Friday. Football would gradually restart as states bring down the number of new cases.

    It is very unlikely that all 50 states will meet the benchmarks necessary to start the season on time. https://lastwordoncollegefootball.co...l-sports-plan/

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    • #3
      Personally, I don't think we're going to see football start on time, if at all. There are far too many logistical issues.

      What happens when half of the teams don't play? What happens in the scenario where there's a surge of cases? How does the GNAC respond if someone gets sick in the PSAC? Players out-of-state are home for the summer and can't get back to campus?

      Also, there is a 0% chance teams are "ready." At least here, all in-person meetings and practices have been barred. All gyms are closed. Most of the team went home, which many of them don't live anywhere near campus. Trying to get everyone back to campus to get warmed up for the first game of the season is going to be a nightmare, unless things completely turn around for the better.

      Honestly, and sadly, I think the better thing to speculate on is which teams never play football again.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Packfootball View Post
        Just from reading and listening to the news, this is what I figure will have to happen for football to happen this fall in all Divisions of the NCAA.
        1. The NCAA, Governors of each state and the Conferences will have to come to agreement to open the practices and play. If one of them says no, especially the Governors it may have an impact on the whole conference.
        2. Will the Schools reopen in the fall for classes or will it be on line learning again?
        3. Have student athletes remained eligible for the fall and did the NCAA / Schools clear them?
        4. The state of Hawaii has basically isolated it self from the rest of the Country. Will the team have to go in to isolation for 14 days to play a game in Hawaii? Maybe the answer is for the Mountain West to drop Hawaii from the schedule while the 14 day requirement is in place.
        5. Will Conferences that are within a state like Texas, will the LSC play just a conference schedule? Will the N.M. schools get to play?
        6. Public schools will have to listen to the Governors of each state. Will the private schools rebel against the Governors (Azusa Pacific come to mind.).

        I may have opened a bag of worms with this one.
        I don't think anyone will be blaming you...Chin up! They played REAL baseball games in 1918, with players and umpires all wearing masks on the field...There's still HOPE!!!

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        • #5
          Just read this article. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...us/3100733001/

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          • #6
            Some interesting comments in that article.

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            • #7
              Yes, It's a very fluid situation right now and probably will be for the foreseeable future. I just read that the PAC 12 is thinking about a silo schedule for this year, 11 games only. SEC and Big 10 are also looking at it. I have not read anything from the RMAC about anything. Just read that Fla Tech dropped football, but some saw that coming. Probably major conference reshuffling coming up in the future with bottom dwellers of conferences dropping football and other sports.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Packfootball View Post
                Yes, It's a very fluid situation right now and probably will be for the foreseeable future. I just read that the PAC 12 is thinking about a silo schedule for this year, 11 games only. SEC and Big 10 are also looking at it. I have not read anything from the RMAC about anything. Just read that Fla Tech dropped football, but some saw that coming. Probably major conference reshuffling coming up in the future with bottom dwellers of conferences dropping football and other sports.
                I heard the RMAC wants to silo as well... nine games for everyone. What I haven't heard is who's going to pay for the contracts that would have to be broken...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ccmoney8 View Post

                  I heard the RMAC wants to silo as well... nine games for everyone. What I haven't heard is who's going to pay for the contracts that would have to be broken...
                  Most contracts have Force Majeure language which essentially equates to "if actions beyond our control (acts of God) prevent us from fulfilling this then we're not liable". I'm assuming COVID-19 would fall under that.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Packfootball View Post
                    2. Will the Schools reopen in the fall for classes or will it be on line learning again?
                    This is the biggest unknown in my opinion.

                    Presidents aren't going to get the benefit of waiting through the summer to see what happens and then decide at the end of July. They're going to have to start making decisions within the next 30 days, I'd imagine. At a lot of D2 schools, football (or athletics in general) isn't going to weigh in very heavily in this decision, I'm afraid. Once the first school announces online-only, it'll only encourage others to follow suit. Neither the NCAA or the general public is going to let schools bring athletes on campus, but not everyone else... Maybe they can come up with a plan where everything is online but you have the option to open up campus in August, provided it's safe, to only students who want to be there.

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                    • #11
                      If all schools go 'on-line' this fall, what percentage of students decide to sit-out the year, maybe take some P-T jobs as they come open and wait for 2021-22 school year when campuses re-open for sure?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ccmoney8 View Post

                        This is the biggest unknown in my opinion.

                        Presidents aren't going to get the benefit of waiting through the summer to see what happens and then decide at the end of July. They're going to have to start making decisions within the next 30 days, I'd imagine. At a lot of D2 schools, football (or athletics in general) isn't going to weigh in very heavily in this decision, I'm afraid. Once the first school announces online-only, it'll only encourage others to follow suit. Neither the NCAA or the general public is going to let schools bring athletes on campus, but not everyone else... Maybe they can come up with a plan where everything is online but you have the option to open up campus in August, provided it's safe, to only students who want to be there.
                        The California State system announced today that there will be no classes on campus. The CCAA announced no sports this fall. Who is next.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by laker View Post

                          The California State system announced today that there will be no classes on campus. The CCAA announced no sports this fall. Who is next.
                          Does this mean no fall sports for the public D1 schools in CA (such as USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, etc.)?

                          Most of the schools in Michigan have announced they're returning to in-person classes this fall (with at least one college planning on starting early in order to be done by Thanksgiving).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ftballfan View Post

                            Does this mean no fall sports for the public D1 schools in CA (such as USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, etc.)?

                            Most of the schools in Michigan have announced they're returning to in-person classes this fall (with at least one college planning on starting early in order to be done by Thanksgiving).
                            UCLA and Cal fall under the UC system which is separate from the Cal State system. No decision from the UC system...yet.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ftballfan View Post

                              Does this mean no fall sports for the public D1 schools in CA (such as USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, etc.)?

                              Most of the schools in Michigan have announced they're returning to in-person classes this fall (with at least one college planning on starting early in order to be done by Thanksgiving).
                              ESPN is reporting that
                              A. No decision has been made about fall sports for a Cal State schools;and,
                              B. The U Cal system has made no announcement but a spokesman is quoted as saying it is “unlikely” schools in the U Cal system will fully reopen in the fall.

                              Elsewhere, it’s been reported that schools with California colleges on their 2039 schedule are working on contingency plans. For example, on Sept 5 Alabama is scheduled to play USC and TCU is supposed to play Cal. The Tide and Horned Frogs have discussed playing each other at ATT Stadium if California schools don’t play football. It is likely lower profile schools at all levels that have opponents from California on their schedule are making similar alternative arrangements.

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