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Originally posted by canadarican View Post
*cupcake...but Vandy doesn't care if it's good at football.
Missouri is trash and lost to Army in their bowl game.
FloridaMississippi State is terrible. Got blown out by Houston in their bowl game.
Tennessee is ok at best. Lost to Purdue in bowl game.
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Originally posted by canadarican View Post
Because those 8 league games are usually 5 or 6 games tougher than the other major conferences play all year...outside of the Big Ten.
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Originally posted by twolfbenchwarmer View PostDo you want Arkansas tech or Louisiana Monroe to pull off the upset? The SEC schedule is 8 conference games, 3 cupcakes, and the occasional showcase game the first week of the season. They get the best players and have the best teams but also have inflated records relative to the other major conferences.
Bowl Championship Series
1998: Tennessee
1999: Florida State
2000: Oklahoma
2001: Miami
2002: Ohio State
2003: LSU
2004: USC
2005: Texas
2006: Florida
2007: LSU
2008: Florida
2009-2010: Alabama
2011: Auburn
2012: Alabama
2013: Florida State
College Football Playoff
2014: Ohio State
2015: Alabama
2016: Clemson
2017: Alabama
2018: Clemson
2019: LSU
2020: Alabama
2021: Georgia
If you're scoring at home, that's 14 of the last 24 national champions represented by the SEC. By contrast, the SEC captured four outright national titles (sharing a fifth) in the previous 24 years (1974-1997):
1978: Alabama (shared with USC)
1979: Alabama
1980: Georgia
1992: Alabama
1996: FloridaCal U (Pa.) Class of 2014
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Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View Post
**Cupcakes.
Missouri is trash and lost to Army in their bowl game.
FloridaMississippi State is terrible. Got blown out by Houston in their bowl game.
Tennessee is ok at best. Lost to Purdue in bowl game.
AuburnLSU
On the opposite side, I don't see Kentucky as a sustainable or credible long-term threat; same with South Carolina (though "the other USC" is improving). Between Ole Miss and TAMU-College Station, one of those two probably stands the best chance of knocking Alabama off the top of the SEC West.
Meanwhile, with the way things are playing out in Austin and Norman, you could theoretically add Texas and Oklahoma as SEC "cupcakes" (more so Texas and No-U).Cal U (Pa.) Class of 2014
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Originally posted by ctrabs74 View Post
Yet, somehow, the SEC represents five of the eight national champions (including the last three - Georgia, Alabama and LSU) under the CFP scheme (2014-present) and nine of the 16 national champions under the BCS scheme (1998-2013), which includes seven straight between 2006 and 2012 (capped off by Alabama's three titles in four years - 2009, 2010 and 2012).
Bowl Championship Series
1998: Tennessee
1999: Florida State
2000: Oklahoma
2001: Miami
2002: Ohio State
2003: LSU
2004: USC
2005: Texas
2006: Florida
2007: LSU
2008: Florida
2009-2010: Alabama
2011: Auburn
2012: Alabama
2013: Florida State
College Football Playoff
2014: Ohio State
2015: Alabama
2016: Clemson
2017: Alabama
2018: Clemson
2019: LSU
2020: Alabama
2021: Georgia
If you're scoring at home, that's 14 of the last 24 national champions represented by the SEC. By contrast, the SEC captured four outright national titles (sharing a fifth) in the previous 24 years (1974-1997):
1978: Alabama (shared with USC)
1979: Alabama
1980: Georgia
1992: Alabama
1996: Florida
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Originally posted by Eagle74 View Post
It would be interesting to see the top 10 teams from more recent years, such as the past 5 years or past 10 years instead of starting 50 years ago.
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I have my doubts... the SEC schools (notably TAMU) have already gamed that system. Throw in the transfer portal and how out of control it's become and we may be stuck in an SEC cycle for years to come.Cal U (Pa.) Class of 2014
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Originally posted by Inkblot View Post
Other logical starting points could be the expansion to 24 (2004) and the Dayton Rule (1993).
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Originally posted by Eagle74 View Post
It would be interesting to see the top 10 teams from more recent years, such as the past 5 years or past 10 years instead of starting 50 years ago.1 Shepherd PSAC 111 1 West Florida GSC 178 1 NW Missouri MIAA 261 1 Texas A&M-Commerce LSC 140 2 Slippery Rock PSAC 46 2 Valdosta State GSC 177 2 Ferris State GLIAC 238 2 Minnesota State NSIC 89 3 Notre Dame MEC 38 3 North Alabama GSC 58 3 Harding GAC 43 3 Colorado Mines RMAC 32 4 IUP PSAC 32 4 West Georgia GSC 32 4 Grand Valley GLIAC 39 4 CSU-Pueblo RMAC 20 5 Assumption NE-10 16 5 Lenoir-Rhyne SAC 23 5 Emporia State MIAA 15 5 Tarleton State LSC 12 6 Kutztown PSAC 13 6 Bowie State CIAA 18 6 Ouachita Baptist GAC 10 6 Angelo state LSC 11 7 Cal U PSAC 9 7 Tuskegee SIAC 15 7 Indianapolis GLVC 7 7 Sioux Falls NSIC 7 8 New Haven NE-10 8 8 North Greenville GSC 11 8 Central Missouri MIAA 5 8 Midwestern State LSC 6 9 West Chester PSAC 6 9 West Alabama GSC 9 9 Lindenwood GLVC 5 T9 Bemidji State NSIC 4 T10 Ashland GMAC 5 T10 Wingate SAC 6 T10 Henderson State GAC 4 T9 Humboldt State GNAC 4 T10 Findlay GMAC 5 T10 Newberry SAC 6 T10 Nebraska Keanrey MIAA 4 T11 Minnesota Duluth NSIC 3 T10 LIU Post NE-10 5 12 Carson-Newman SAC 5 12 Fort Hays MIAA 2 T11 Augustana NSIC 3
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Off topic, but I made a D2 Basketball version of my rankings. Of course it took forever with more than double the number of teams in the tournament. This only is from 2003-2021, when the tournament expanded to 64 teams for Division II.
This is the top 10 in each region going into this season, and does NOT include schools who are no longer in Division II, such as former powerhouse Bellarmine, or other schools with scores above 100: Kennesaw State, Tarleton State, BYU-Hawaii, Bryant.
Atlantic Regional Central Regional East Regional Midwest Regional 1 Virginia Union CIAA 384 1 Northwest Missouri St. MIAA 823 1 Bentley NE-10 175 1 Findlay G-MAC 330 2 West Liberty MEC 380 2 Winona St. NSIC 651 2 Stonehill NE-10 151 2 Drury GLVC 295 3 IUP PSAC 285 3 Central Missouri MIAA 382 3 Saint Anselm NE-10 90 3 Ferris St. GLIAC 287 4 Fairmont St. MEC 133 4 Augustana NSIC 286 4 Bloomfield CACC 63 4 Southern Indiana GLVC 234 5 Bowie St. CIAA 78 5 Northeastern St. MIAA 248 5 St. Thomas Aquinas ECC 51 5 Kentucky Wesleyan G-MAC 138 6 Gannon PSAC 42 6 Northern St. NSIC 156 6 Southern Connecticut St. NE-10 42 6 Grand Valley St. GLIAC 59 7 East Stroudsburg PSAC 41 7 Minnesota St.-Mankato NSIC 117 7 Southern New Hampshire NE-10 41 7 Michigan Tech GLIAC 30 8 Mercyhurst PSAC 36 8 St. Cloud St. NSIC 73 8 Franklin Pierce NE-10 34 8 Indianapolis GLVC 29 Millersville PSAC 34 Nebraska-Kearney MIAA 47 Le Moyne NE-10 30 Truman St. GLVC 27 Alderson Broaddus MEC 34 Central Oklahoma MIAA 45 Saint Rose NE-10 29 Saginaw Valley St. GLIAC 26 South Regional South Central Regional Southeast Regional West Regional 1 Florida Southern SSC 303 1 Metro St. RMAC 309 1 Barton CC 291 1 Cal Poly Pomona CCAA 437 2 Montevallo GSC 233 2 West Texas A&M LSC 218 2 Lincoln Memorial SAC 260 2 Western Washington GNAC 326 3 Alabama-Huntsville GSC 99 3 Midwestern St. LSC 106 3 Augusta PBC 239 3 Point Loma Nazarene PWC 123 4 Lynn SSC 79 4 Colorado Mines RMAC 74 4 Queens SAC 163 4 Seattle Pacific GNAC 105 5 Rollins SSC 78 5 Fort Lewis RMAC 29 5 USC Aiken PBC 104 5 Cal State San Bernardino CCAA 88 6 Barry SSC 67 6 Angelo St. LSC 25 6 Mount Olive CC 60 6 Cal Poly Humboldt CCAA 79 7 Eckerd SSC 64 7 Texas A&M-Commerce LSC 21 7 Flagler PBC 54 7 Western Oregon GNAC 70 8 Christian Brothers GSC 40 8 St. Mary's LSC 18 8 Wingate SAC 44 8 Alaska-Anchorage GNAC 68 Valdosta St. GSC 34 Lubbock Christian LSC 16 Anderson SAC 42 Chico State CCAA 62 Tuskegee SIAC 27 St. Edwards LSC 15 Clayton St. PBC 19 Azusa Pacific PWC 35
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And obviously (because someone is bound to ask) here is a national Top 25 of that same span1 Northwest Missouri St. MIAA 823 2 Winona St. NSIC 651 3 Cal Poly Pomona CCAA 437 4 Virginia Union CIAA 384 5 Central Missouri MIAA 382 6 West Liberty MEC 380 7 Findlay G-MAC 330 8 Western Washington GNAC 326 9 Metro St. RMAC 309 10 Florida Southern SSC 303 11 Drury GLVC 295 12 Barton CC 291 13 Ferris St. GLIAC 287 14 Augustana NSIC 286 15 IUP PSAC 285 16 Lincoln Memorial SAC 260 17 Northeastern St. MIAA 248 18 Augusta PBC 239 19 Southern Indiana GLVC 234 20 Montevallo GSC 233 21 West Texas A&M LSC 218 22 Bentley NE-10 175 23 Queens SAC 163 24 Northern St. NSIC 156 25 Stonehill NE-10 151
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