Video: Should Division II Overhaul the Playoff System? - with Mike Racy

[IUPNation]

You all have failed to prove why the current set up does not work.

Does the NFL reshuffle it's deck when it comes to playoff time?

Did Goodell, a huge Chefs fan, decide that the AFC was more stacked so he was going to switch the Bills and Bengals to the NFC bracket and move the Vikings and Buccaneers to the AFC to even it out and try to engineer a Chefs vs Bills/Bengals final that everyone thought should be the Super Bowl?

The facts of life are not always fair.

Division 2 is what it is...small college level foosball. That is why the NCAA sets it up regionally to accommodate the 160+ schools playing foosball at this level and not to placate the fans of the 6-10 schools that dominate the level every year.

Nobody has put a gun to the heads of the schools whining about the setup to stay in Division 2. NWMO and Grand Valley have the money to move up but they choose to stay in D2 and dominate. Ok...so live with the way the level is run or go away.

Proposing the same setup as FCS is kind of humorous. If you want that setup, the answer is to move up and be a part if that process. Plenty of D2 powers of the past did it and some have flourished and some just went into obscurity.

The current regional setup still produces the best teams as it's champion.

You can't go a FCS setup unless everyone is willing to travel all over the country and conferences open up several OOC slots on everyone's schedule. Who is paying for that?

I would love to see MIAA teams get the chance to see the real world and come to Pennsylvania in September. IUP's best years was when they were playing North Dakota State and Portland State in Oregon and Grand Valley in he regular season. I don't want to always see an NE10 team on the other side of the field. Although, our upcoming four year series with Ashland will be nice for both schools.

As long as schools stay close to home in the regular season, you can't demand the playoffs be based on conference strength when the conferences don't mix during the regular season.

You need to fix the regular season setups before you can justify changing the playoff format.

So to stop this constant whining about the MIAA and GLIAC in the same region ....JUST FRIGGEN MOVE THEM APART!

Region 3 - MIAA/LSC/GAC
Region 4 - GLIAC/NSIC/RMAC

HOW HARD IS THAT TO DO?


My opinion is that there are too many teams in the playoffs now that don't belong there...non conference champions.

Yep...the playoffs shouldn't be regionalized. They should just be for conference champions who are then bracketed.

If you didn't win your conference, why should anyone get a shot to win a national title. It should make winning your conference that much more of a goal.

I don't care if some second place teams are better than some conference champions. That would give an incentive for every conference to have a title game which would essentially be Round 1 of the playoffs.

There should only be a 16 team conference champion only playoff format. Split it into and East/West bracket and let it play out.

[IUPNation]

They sort of got 1990 right. The bison blew out a garbage team from iup in the title game, but the actual championship was settled the week.before in pre-dome Fargo against Pitt State.

Classy. What can one expect from people "educated" at a terrible "university" in Kansastan.

[IUPNation]

Quoted to include 2004 and beyond to reflect the expansion to 24 teams.

So it looks like the regional setup still produced mostly good finals games.

I don't see the problem.

[IUPNation]

I'd really have no problem with that except the attendance would be poor.

Attendance for the finals isn't that great either. The only time the games were crowded was when they were home game for North Alabamastan and Northwest MO.

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[IUPNation]

Thank you for acknowledging that SR3 turns out such dominant teams that they wreck the entire D2 playoff system. I agree.

For now they do…everything comes and goes. In two years Grand Valley could go back to its has been status it enjoyed during the twenty teens.

[IUPNation]

Weird then that people are leaving the northeast in mass numbers and relocating south and west.

You mean mostly retiring baby boomers are leaving.

[Wallst]

It is not my fault the Northeast remains the most important region of the country. It just is.

IUP lasted a week longer than Fake Pittsburg(h) State.

Weird then that people are leaving the northeast in mass numbers and relocating south and west.

[Redwing]

...but they weren't close. They won easily. They had zero competition.

They were a highly dominant team that changing he playoff system wouldn't have slowed down.

From all your posts, I gather that you don't want the best teams to be in the playoffs or have the best teams play deep into the playoffs. It seems like you just want teams from all over the country. So your criteria is essentially geography...not necessarily having the best teams in D2 play in mid-late December. I don't see how that benefits D2 football and their members or any school for that matter. Let me help you... Here's your participation trophy since that's what appears is most important to you.

[KleShreen]

...but they weren't close. They won easily. They had zero competition.

They were a highly dominant team that changing he playoff system wouldn't have slowed down.

Thank you for acknowledging that SR3 turns out such dominant teams that they wreck the entire D2 playoff system. I agree.

[IUPNation]

Ferris went to overtime against Saginaw Valley and beat GVSU by a touchdown during the season. And you also just, as I said, pointed out that their closest games in the playoffs came against their SR3 opponents, which is exactly what I said. So you are proving me correct, again.

A 21-point game in the championship would have been more competitive than the 41-point game that was nationally televised. So....again.....you have proven me correct.

...but they weren't close. They won easily. They had zero competition.

They were a highly dominant team that changing he playoff system wouldn't have slowed down.

[KleShreen]

No...you are just talking a bunch of ****.


Ferris Bueller b-slapped Grand Valley by 34 points in Round 1
They Beat Northwest by 21 in Round 2
They beat Shepherd by 48 in Round 3
They beat Valdosta by 41 in Round 4 for the title.

Their average margin of victory in the playoffs was 38 points.

What would have scrapping regionalization done to make that more competitive. Nothing.

Once again...the poo you fling doesn't stick.

Now that the extra year Covid players are now getting out of the system...you will see some teams that dominated start to fall back and with the portal...some schools that may have been lacking being able to at least hang.

Ferris went to overtime against Saginaw Valley and beat GVSU by a touchdown during the season. And you also just, as I said, pointed out that their closest games in the playoffs came against their SR3 opponents, which is exactly what I said. So you are proving me correct, again.

A 21-point game in the championship would have been more competitive than the 41-point game that was nationally televised. So....again.....you have proven me correct.

[IUPNation]

This past season's MAC Championship game was 17-7, and the national championship game was 65-7. Does that mean the MAC is better than Georgia and TCU?

You need to not get high when you post.

[IUPNation]

You're making the argument even stronger getting rid of regionalization, because Ferris' toughest games during the 2021 season were all against fellow SR3 opponents. So it sounds like you're on board with getting rid of regionalization and just letting the best teams get in, regardless of region or conference affiliation, and able to face each other in the national championship?

No...you are just talking a bunch of ****.


Ferris Bueller b-slapped Grand Valley by 34 points in Round 1
They Beat Northwest by 21 in Round 2
They beat Shepherd by 48 in Round 3
They beat Valdosta by 41 in Round 4 for the title.

Their average margin of victory in the playoffs was 38 points.

What would have scrapping regionalization done to make that more competitive. Nothing.

Once again...the poo you fling doesn't stick.

Now that the extra year Covid players are now getting out of the system...you will see some teams that dominated start to fall back and with the portal...some schools that may have been lacking being able to at least hang.

[IUPNation]

Delaware and Lehigh are not in SR1 today. They are irrelevant.

The only two national championships SR1 can have a remote connection to are when GVSU won in 2002 and 2003 before the rest of the region got tired of the GLIAC beating up on them and had them moved to a different region lol.

Half of the teams that won titles in D2 since 1974 are no longer in D2.

The GLIAC was not the only conference that got moved that year. It had nothing to do with the nonsense you are spewing.

In 2004...the playoffs were expanded. The GLIAC had 13 teams in those days. It was moved to fill out the Northwest Region that had a 4 team GNAC, a decimated 7 team NCC, and 8 team NSIC and 3 Independents. The GLIAC was only in the Northeast prior because the NE10 did not participate in the playoffs before 2003. There was one year when the GLIAC and the NE10 were in the same regional with the Pee Sac and the old WVIAC. The Northeast Region had 33 teams with the Pee Sack, NE10, WVIAC and one Ind. Southeast had 42 over 4 conferences and 2 Independents. Southwest was a large LSC the MIAA, the RMAC and 3 Independents.

Your version is fake news. Congrats on being Fox News.

[Predatory Primates]

Teams from the Northeast in the D2 Playoff finals
1974 - Delaware lost to Central Meatchicken
1977 - Lehigh defeated Jacksonville State
1978 - Eastern Illinois defeated Delaware
1979 - Delaware defeated Youngstown State
1990 - North Dakota State defeated IUP (and this game is listed incorrectly on the D2 site...saying they beat Pittsburg State)
1993 - North Alabamastan got lucky over IUP
1997 - Northern Colorado defeated New Haven
2000 - Delta State defeated Bloomsburg
2015 - Northwest Mo defeated Shepherd in a home game.

Looks like 9 times...

They sort of got 1990 right. The bison blew out a garbage team from iup in the title game, but the actual championship was settled the week.before in pre-dome Fargo against Pitt State.