New Frostburg coach

[boatcapt]

Why do you think that is? Is it due to not always having the same amount of schollies which hurts your chances on the national stage? is it your recruiting hot beds are not the same as D2's in other areas? I looked up what coaches in the MIAA make and what they make in the MEC. Your top paying schools pay what most MIAA coaches make, there is then a significant dropoff once you get to the smaller and private schools. Choice D a mix of all of the above?

I did look at the MEC recruiting thread and I forget the school now, but someone went into a 7 state area and got recruits. I think that is tremendous! When you look at the MIAA schools, and since I'm a Pitt guy I will take Pitt as an example. This year we got recruits from Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Florida, Texas, California, Illinois, Vermont, Minnestota, Alabama, and Maryland. 30 kids total, 20 seniors and 10 transfers. The tranfers account for the single players we got from Maryland, California (2), Alabama, Minnesota, and Vermont. My point being, if a school in southeastern Kansas can pull kids in from coast to coast teams in the MEC should be able to hit more states that are much closer in geography than what is in their backyards.

Yes...To all. Many reasons that SR1 HC positions are not considered prime by HC candidates. Generally lower salaries, smaller operating budgets, fewer average schollys to work with and lack of success (read NC) on a national scale all feed into a general feel from top national level candidates that it's not a place you can come, be well compensated and be successful.

Recruting across multiple states is seen by a number of people, alumni and fans, as not really a desirable thing. Almost every year WLU (sadly...the school I root for) brings in players from FL, CA, OH, MD and WV (and quite a few others) but a number of fans complain that they need to bring in more from the Ohio Valley (WLU's local area). I think, generally, the MD, VA, OH, PA, WV area is a hot bed for talent. Problem is that there are just sooo many DII programs competing for the talent this 5 state area has to offer. There are 40 DII football programs spread across the area competing for the same "local" players. Add in DII's on the parifery of those 5 states that recruit the area and farer flung DII's that pick up onsies and twosies every year and it is little wonder local schools struggle to elevate themselves to national prominence.

[Wallst]

We have a perception of the jobs in SR1 that perhaps potential coaching canadates from the rest of the country don't have. When was the last time that an SR1 team pulled a truely high caliber applicant who wasn't already working in the region or had some sort of alumni/family connection with SR1?

Why do you think that is? Is it due to not always having the same amount of schollies which hurts your chances on the national stage? is it your recruiting hot beds are not the same as D2's in other areas? I looked up what coaches in the MIAA make and what they make in the MEC. Your top paying schools pay what most MIAA coaches make, there is then a significant dropoff once you get to the smaller and private schools. Choice D a mix of all of the above?

I did look at the MEC recruiting thread and I forget the school now, but someone went into a 7 state area and got recruits. I think that is tremendous! When you look at the MIAA schools, and since I'm a Pitt guy I will take Pitt as an example. This year we got recruits from Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Florida, Texas, California, Illinois, Vermont, Minnestota, Alabama, and Maryland. 30 kids total, 20 seniors and 10 transfers. The tranfers account for the single players we got from Maryland, California (2), Alabama, Minnesota, and Vermont. My point being, if a school in southeastern Kansas can pull kids in from coast to coast teams in the MEC should be able to hit more states that are much closer in geography than what is in their backyards.

[boatcapt]

Rams got one game in, nothing else was available.

One game is effectively giving up. I note that Hurst, Gannon, Tiffin played abreviated spring schedules so Shepherd could have played...If they really wanted to.

[Ram040506]

Just 'cause you were too skeer'd to play, don't be hatin' on programs that did!

Rams got one game in, nothing else was available.

[boatcapt]

2020 lol

Just 'cause you were too skeer'd to play, don't be hatin' on programs that did!

[Ram040506]

NDC has won four titles : 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018. Fact that they have won four in a row makes them the best in the albeit short history of the MEC.

2020 lol

[boatcapt]

NDC has won four titles : 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018. Fact that they have won four in a row makes them the best in the albeit short history of the MEC.

[Ram040506]

The MEC has had a strong #2 almost every season. Currently, Frostburg is that team but UC has been in the hunt as well. When NDC ascended to the top of the MEC in 2018, Fairmont was their top foe with Shepherd a strong #3. Going back to the first two years of the MEC, Shepherd won the title with Concord as a strong #2...the following year, Concord and Shepherd swapped places with Concord as #1 and Shepherd #2.

NDC is the current top dog in the MEC and probably the top program in MEC history with Frostburg and UC as the 2 and 3. Fairmont has fallen off after a strong 3 year run with Concord doing the same after a two year run and a Regional Championship in 2014.

If I had to guess 2022, I'd say:

1. NDC - To be the dog you have to beat the dog...No one has been able to do that since 2017.
2. Frostburg - Will they take a step back after losing their HC??
3. UC - See above.
4. UNCP - They didn't do as well as some thought they might in their first season in a pittly little SR1 conference.
5. Fairmont - Typical MOP season for them.
6. WV State - Seems like every year we think they will finally break through...and it just doesn't happen.
7. Wheeling - Not a bad team but just not ready to make a jump.
8. Glenville - Keller is a good coach...right??
9. WLU - Ughhhh...
10. AB - Just feels like this is were they will end.
11. Concord
12. WVW

[boatcapt]

Agree. The MEC needs FSU to be a strong program.

The MEC has had a strong #2 almost every season. Currently, Frostburg is that team but UC has been in the hunt as well. When NDC ascended to the top of the MEC in 2018, Fairmont was their top foe with Shepherd a strong #3. Going back to the first two years of the MEC, Shepherd won the title with Concord as a strong #2...the following year, Concord and Shepherd swapped places with Concord as #1 and Shepherd #2.

NDC is the current top dog in the MEC and probably the top program in MEC history with Frostburg and UC as the 2 and 3. Fairmont has fallen off after a strong 3 year run with Concord doing the same after a two year run and a Regional Championship in 2014.

If I had to guess 2022, I'd say:

1. NDC - To be the dog you have to beat the dog...No one has been able to do that since 2017.
2. Frostburg - Will they take a step back after losing their HC??
3. UC - See above.
4. UNCP - They didn't do as well as some thought they might in their first season in a pittly little SR1 conference.
5. Fairmont - Typical MOP season for them.
6. WV State - Seems like every year we think they will finally break through...and it just doesn't happen.
7. Wheeling - Not a bad team but just not ready to make a jump.
8. Glenville - Keller is a good coach...right??
9. WLU - Ughhhh...
10. AB - Just feels like this is were they will end.
11. Concord
12. WVW

[Stea1th]

Agree. The MEC needs FSU to be a strong program.

[ShoNuff]

We have a perception of the jobs in SR1 that perhaps potential coaching candidates from the rest of the country don't have. When was the last time that an SR1 team pulled a truly high caliber applicant who wasn't already working in the region or had some sort of alumni/family connection with SR1?

Made some great points boatcapt . Very interested in how Frostburg State's 2022 season unfolds.

[boatcapt]

Frostburg State finished ranked in the Top 25 in their 3rd year of D-II, as well as tied for 1st in the MEC, but was not able to attract any big name coaches to replace Coach Fitz? To me, something does not sound quite right. However, I too wish Wagoner well.

We have a perception of the jobs in SR1 that perhaps potential coaching canadates from the rest of the country don't have. When was the last time that an SR1 team pulled a truely high caliber applicant who wasn't already working in the region or had some sort of alumni/family connection with SR1?

[ShoNuff]

The Head Coaching job at Frostburg State is a good gig. I wish Wagoner well.

Frostburg State finished ranked in the Top 25 in their 3rd year of D-II, as well as tied for 1st in the MEC, but was not able to attract any big name coaches to replace Coach Fitz? To me, something does not sound quite right. However, I too wish Wagoner well.

[crixus]

The Head Coaching job at Frostburg State is a good gig. I wish Wagoner well.

[ShoNuff]

So im back. We swung and miss at some of the big time guys we try to get but coach wagoner will be a good fit. I was just missing because of some personal issues and now that i'm back in the swing of things i'll be back, semi consistant basis.

Real_FSU_47 - welcome back. I sincerely hope that your personal issues have been taken care of.

I live here in Maryland, so I am REALLY pulling for Frostburg St to continue developing into a strong football program. I do not want them to take a few steps back. So I hope Coach Wagoner can keep the momentum going.