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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
There's some real interesting stories of similar situations on the basketball side.
Of recent times, Dustin Sleva wanted to come to IUP (he's said as much in interviews) but IUP passed on him. He then went on to become probably one of the best post players in the PSAC in the past 30 years. IUP took a high school guard over him that year. Said guard left the program a year later. I still can't imagine what a low post of Sleva and Jacabo Diaz would have done together.
Micah Till, who for the most part had a very strong career at Slippery Rock, was briefly in the mix here. That's quite a different story, however.
Amir Hinton is perhaps the biggest what-if tale in the KCAC. Hinton somehow landed at Lock Haven out of high school. It was apparent from about his first game he wouldn't be there very long. He was too good. The summer he announced his transfer there was essentially a bidding war among D2 heavyweights for him. Depending on which version of the story you believe, he was all but signed here. What happened next is pretty secretive. Hinton ended up at Shaw. In his lone year there he was a first-team All America selection and then declared for the NBA Draft. He's now playing for the Knicks' G-League team.
Edinboro star Jaymon Mason did an official visit to IUP but never got an offer. He went on to have an excellent PSAC career.
Slippery Rock recruited former IUP All-America guard Malik Miller so hard coming out of high school that they basically all but offered to name a building after him. Luckily, he picked Joe instead.
One that still gets me is IHS's Carlos Carter. He's been a key cog for a very strong Shippensburg team. IUP never offered the local boy. He was originally committed to Wheeling Jesuit (when they were a power under Danny Sancomb). When Sancomb got fired Carter opened his recruiting. That's when Chris Fite grabbed him. Joe didn't recruit him either time (or, didn't offer, anyway). That's a strange one.
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Originally posted by Matt Burglund View Post
It's not always true that if a player signs with School A, then School B must not have recruited him. Many, many coaches (from a lot of schools) have told me when talking about a player, that "we had him here on a recruiting weekend but he picked them instead." There are exceptions, but a lot of these players who sign with PSAC schools get recruited by the same D2s and a few D3s.- IUP went after Marcus Martin, but Slippery Rock got him.
- Gannon thought it had Jemal Averette, but IUP landed him.
- Jamar Brittingham visited IUP but chose Bloomsburg.
- I remember sitting in the IUP HC's office one January when he got a call from one of the assistants who was out on the road. An RB they were hot after told them Cal had offered a full ride. IUP didn't match it, and the player picked Cal, although as best as I can tell never played there.
There's some real interesting stories of similar situations on the basketball side.
Of recent times, Dustin Sleva wanted to come to IUP (he's said as much in interviews) but IUP passed on him. He then went on to become probably one of the best post players in the PSAC in the past 30 years. IUP took a high school guard over him that year. Said guard left the program a year later. I still can't imagine what a low post of Sleva and Jacabo Diaz would have done together.
Micah Till, who for the most part had a very strong career at Slippery Rock, was briefly in the mix here. That's quite a different story, however.
Amir Hinton is perhaps the biggest what-if tale in the KCAC. Hinton somehow landed at Lock Haven out of high school. It was apparent from about his first game he wouldn't be there very long. He was too good. The summer he announced his transfer there was essentially a bidding war among D2 heavyweights for him. Depending on which version of the story you believe, he was all but signed here. What happened next is pretty secretive. Hinton ended up at Shaw. In his lone year there he was a first-team All America selection and then declared for the NBA Draft. He's now playing for the Knicks' G-League team.
Edinboro star Jaymon Mason did an official visit to IUP but never got an offer. He went on to have an excellent PSAC career.
Slippery Rock recruited former IUP All-America guard Malik Miller so hard coming out of high school that they basically all but offered to name a building after him. Luckily, he picked Joe instead.
One that still gets me is IHS's Carlos Carter. He's been a key cog for a very strong Shippensburg team. IUP never offered the local boy. He was originally committed to Wheeling Jesuit (when they were a power under Danny Sancomb). When Sancomb got fired Carter opened his recruiting. That's when Chris Fite grabbed him. Joe didn't recruit him either time (or, didn't offer, anyway). That's a strange one.
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Originally posted by Matt Burglund View Post
It's not always true that if a player signs with School A, then School B must not have recruited him. Many, many coaches (from a lot of schools) have told me when talking about a player, that "we had him here on a recruiting weekend but he picked them instead." There are exceptions, but a lot of these players who sign with PSAC schools get recruited by the same D2s and a few D3s.- IUP went after Marcus Martin, but Slippery Rock got him.
- Gannon thought it had Jemal Averette, but IUP landed him.
- Jamar Brittingham visited IUP but chose Bloomsburg.
- I remember sitting in the IUP HC's office one January when he got a call from one of the assistants who was out on the road. An RB they were hot after told them Cal had offered a full ride. IUP didn't match it, and the player picked Cal, although as best as I can tell never played there.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
Wow. Didn't know that part. I had always heard they didn't recruit him. Perhaps that was coming from people not wanting egg on their face, however.
Then again, everybody has 20/20 when it comes back to revisiting recruiting.- IUP went after Marcus Martin, but Slippery Rock got him.
- Gannon thought it had Jemal Averette, but IUP landed him.
- Jamar Brittingham visited IUP but chose Bloomsburg.
- I remember sitting in the IUP HC's office one January when he got a call from one of the assistants who was out on the road. An RB they were hot after told them Cal had offered a full ride. IUP didn't match it, and the player picked Cal, although as best as I can tell never played there.
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Originally posted by Matt Burglund View Post
Central Cambria.
Northern Cambria is in the Heritage Conference.
IUP recruited him, all right. Frank Cignetti told me the story of Randy's mom asking him to consider matching SRU's offer. He didn't raise his offer, and McKavish was gone. Frank told me that was one of his biggest recruiting regrets.
Then again, everybody has 20/20 when it comes back to revisiting recruiting.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostI'm usually not a fan of Heritage Conference players (and, frankly, we don't sign them very often). However, there are certainly diamonds to be found.
I recall (unfortunately) a QB that IUP didn't recruit from Northern Cambria (not Heritage but from the 'Indiana suburb' of Ebensburg) about 25 years ago. His name was Randy McKavish.
Northern Cambria is in the Heritage Conference.
IUP recruited him, all right. Frank Cignetti told me the story of Randy's mom asking him to consider matching SRU's offer. He didn't raise his offer, and McKavish was gone. Frank told me that was one of his biggest recruiting regrets.
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I'm usually not a fan of Heritage Conference players (and, frankly, we don't sign them very often). However, there are certainly diamonds to be found.
I recall (unfortunately) a QB that IUP didn't recruit from Northern Cambria (not Heritage but from the 'Indiana suburb' of Ebensburg) about 25 years ago. His name was Randy McKavish.
Schmidt, while a late signee, may actually be an equal prospect with the QB we signed on NSD.
I don't think it's just IUP that doesn't recruit the Heritage much but rather most of college football. Schmidt threw for a ton of yards and TDs and also ran for over 1,200 this past season. He's a tremendous athlete with nice size.
The jump, of course, is huge. Running around like a Tecmo Bowl player against Saltsburg won't work against California. But, he'll have time to develop here.
He very well could turn in to a good safety or maybe even a QB.
I was actually surprised they didn't pursue him earlier -- especially when their first two QB targets fell by the wayside.
The other late signing, the OL from IHS, could be another really nice find. He's got a mean streak in him and plays with a chip. He's nice size now and they'll bulk him up some more. He could project to be a nice player here in a couple years.
I think we'll look back and see a ton of players just like these two who got looked over on NSD mainly due to the lack of spots. My opinion, these two really rounded out a strong class. And, I know, everybody says they got a strong class (and few actually end up with one).
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Originally posted by IUP CRIMSON HAWKS View PostThere is the very real possibility that he could end up dead before he is 25.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostLATE ADDITION
QB Ben Schmidt
Homer-Center High School
6'0, 205 lbs
Big stats in the Heritage Conference.
He is interested in majoring in Homeland Security while being enrolled in the ROTC program. He wants to be an officer in one of the combat arms branches of the army. There is the very real possibility that he could end up dead before he is 25.
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LATE ADDITION
QB Ben Schmidt
Homer-Center High School
6'0, 205 lbs
Big stats in the Heritage Conference.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
I'm with you. I grew up the only son so I looked forward to sharing a room with another guy plus I had that tiny bedroom every 3 BR 1950s house had so size didn't bother me. I too tend to eat meals at common times. I think the only similarity my freshman year 20 years ago had to now was that it was the first year everyone could get cable & high speed internet in their rooms. Wifi wasn't a thing yet but with that Ethernet cable wow could I download music!
Everybody would congregate in the guy's room who had the best stereo. Dorms then were kind of communal, which would be opening another can of worms.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
That's an interesting observation.
I think the dorm situation is a microcosm of American society itself and how it's changed. Forty years ago, when I lived in one of those cinderblock rooms it was perfectly fine. At that age, I didn't need or even want more. And I had had my own room since the age of 8 when my big sister moved out. Then, regardless of your own sense of individuality you just accepted the standard issue. You were content with it
Typically, you ate food at mealtimes. Maybe you had a small snack throughout the day. Today, you eat food whenever you want. We have become a fat society. I mean that literally and figuratively.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
Surprises me that the Giant Eagle Express didn't take off. The Get Go Markets (similar) do pretty well around Pittsburgh. But I guess if you live off campus you most likely have a car and its easier to just drive to a full store than walk to the little store. You can add on a stop to the Starbucks drive-thru.
For dorms, remember that since its rare that families have more than 2 kids, these kids have never shared a bedroom and in some cases never shared a bathroom. Having to share personal space with a stranger let alone use a community bathroom is a tough sell. Generations of kids are the product of the generation that raised them. The only schools that can get away with this are so attractive students put up with it.
That used to be a regular Giant Eagle and then they basically completely renovated it. The building is very nice. They've been trying to lease it to a new customer now for about 3-4 years. They want about $28,000/month for it -- which explains why it's still sitting there vacant. It would be a prime spot for a Buffalo Wild Wings or something along those lines. When it moved in there and got an alcohol license, it killed the campus-favorite Uncle Sudzies, which had been a campus beer staple for decades.
Yeah, looking back, those old-school dorms were pretty nuts. But, those were some fun days.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View PostFor dorms, remember that since its rare that families have more than 2 kids, these kids have never shared a bedroom and in some cases never shared a bathroom. Having to share personal space with a stranger let alone use a community bathroom is a tough sell. Generations of kids are the product of the generation that raised them. The only schools that can get away with this are so attractive students put up with it.
I think the dorm situation is a microcosm of American society itself and how it's changed. Forty years ago, when I lived in one of those cinderblock rooms it was perfectly fine. At that age, I didn't need or even want more. And I had had my own room since the age of 8 when my big sister moved out. Then, regardless of your own sense of individuality you just accepted the standard issue. You were content with it
Typically, you ate food at mealtimes. Maybe you had a small snack throughout the day. Today, you eat food whenever you want. We have become a fat society. I mean that literally and figuratively.
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