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Originally posted by TheBigCat2192 View Post
Someone posted a link to his initial court docket last year. He was pulled over for a mix of improper tint (frequently a ticky-tack charge imo) and lane control violation and then allegedly fled the scene on foot after the trooper ran his suspended license. Nothing in the initial report was a higher grade than a summary offense except for fleeing. I followed the old link and it looks like when it was all said and done he probably got hit with two summary offenses; one for disorderly conduct and one for driving on a suspended license. So either the state pled him down on the fleeing charge or the trooper was exaggerating. I don’t see any sign of DUI and the link doesn’t show what ultimately got decided in traffic court for the suspended license.
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Originally posted by IUP24 View Post
Been so long and there were a long list of issues with that group.
Was it a DUI and he fled the scene? Or was it a suspended license? I can't remember.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
Nobody seemed to mind signing Max Redfield, who had a much, much worse past than Dayjure. Max was a banner citizen in Indiana. He grew up and changed - but, he certainly came here with a checkered history.
Frank built an empire on guys with rap sheets. We didn't mind back then.
All I can promise you is if Dayjure would put up 225 yards on Slippery Rock this October, not a soul on here would care about his relationship with apartment doors.
I'd further add, most of his serious charges were dropped or severely lessened.
If he truly changed -- and Tort trusted the fact he truly changed -- why not. They desperately need a game-breaker. He needs a home. He sat out a full season. He did his time.
Would he be a risk for Tort? Absolutely.
But, maybe Tort needs to take some risks. The program isn't exactly cooking right now.
, and I remember an interview with him after he ran for a record 250+ yards against ESU and he seem
I have a hunch Dayjure is going to land in the PSAC in the next month or so. I'd rather play with him than against him.
Let me qualify this before I type it. After Stewart's first problem, I was one of the posters (maybe the only one) who said he deserved a second chance because I believe in second chances and I remember him in a post-game interview after he ran for over 250 yards against ESU (this was some kind of an IUP record). He seemed to be humble and well-spoken. So, I had a positive impression.
But Redfield was an exceptional person both on and off the field. Redfield was accepted to Notre Dame. Stewart had to go the JC route. Both were good, but Redfield was probably in the top 5 players to ever play for IUP. There were schools all over the country willing to pick Redfield up. Remember, he said he picked IUP because they had a Philosophy major and the Critical Languages program because he was studying Chinese.
As far as whether people minded the criminal histories of players, I think they did. That is why Cig's tenure ended and they brought in Tepper.
I think Stewart's untimely departure was a major reason for IUP's underperformance last year. It was right before the season started. Tort could not recover from that.
I don't want to re-litigate Stewart's problems. I don't think that's necessary or right. But both of the incidents included what could be considered a loss of control, so I don't think there is a guarantee that it doesn't happen again. There is also an aspect of lack of respect and cooperation with other people, so that is probably something to consider.
That is all just my assessment, though. If they want to bring him back, it's their business and their decision. I think they will be able to sign someone after the Spring to help out in the backfield.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
He's a victim?
Frank built an empire on guys with rap sheets. We didn't mind back then.
All I can promise you is if Dayjure would put up 225 yards on Slippery Rock this October, not a soul on here would care about his relationship with apartment doors.
I'd further add, most of his serious charges were dropped or severely lessened.
If he truly changed -- and Tort trusted the fact he truly changed -- why not. They desperately need a game-breaker. He needs a home. He sat out a full season. He did his time.
Would he be a risk for Tort? Absolutely.
But, maybe Tort needs to take some risks. The program isn't exactly cooking right now.
I have a hunch Dayjure is going to land in the PSAC in the next month or so. I'd rather play with him than against him.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostFormer IUP star RB Dayjure Stewart is still looking for a home.
Must admit I'm fairly shocked. He had his issues. But, legally speaking, nothing crazy.
Many, many less talented guys with much more severe baggage get signed.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostFormer IUP star RB Dayjure Stewart is still looking for a home.
Must admit I'm fairly shocked. He had his issues. But, legally speaking, nothing crazy.
Many, many less talented guys with much more severe baggage get signed.
Was it a DUI and he fled the scene? Or was it a suspended license? I can't remember.
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Originally posted by Iupgh View Post
U guys ever think maybe his academic standing is poor. The portal can be a stonewall academically if your grades are a mess. No team likes to take on baggage that u need to get eligible. That would be my guess on his non portal action….just sayin.
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Originally posted by Ship69 View Post
It's amazing how so many people, even some who often watch football, underestimate the importance of the o-line. One of the best examples were Lombardi's Green Bay teams of the '60s. They had a capable QB in Bart Starr. Paul Hornung was a great all-around athlete, but he was no speed demon at halfback. Didn't matter. They'd just run Hornung and Taylor at you for 4, 3, 5, and 6 yards all the way down the field. I remember listening to Bears-Packers games on the radio then and being frustrated as a teen Bears fan listening to the Packers inexorably march down the field time after time. Even when Starr was knocked out for most of the season and Hornung was suspended for gambling in '63, they still darn near won the title with an 11-2-1 record. The only team to beat them that year was the Bears, who beat them twice and went 11-1-2. Watching those guys block an end sweep was a thing of beauty.
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Originally posted by Iupgh View Post
U guys ever think maybe his academic standing is poor. The portal can be a stonewall academically if your grades are a mess. No team likes to take on baggage that u need to get eligible. That would be my guess on his non portal action….just sayin.
I know he's no choir boy, but his crimes don't justify a death sentence. He beat up a door at 2 a.m. His second instance was worse. No question. But, again, not a whole lot stuck.
Again, not saying IUP has any interest (at all, that I know of). I'm just shocked somebody hasn't signed him. He is certainly looking for a home.
I'll check back in on him in May. A lot changes after some RBs get hurt in Spring ball and teams go in to panic mode.
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Originally posted by Ship69 View Post
It's amazing how so many people, even some who often watch football, underestimate the importance of the o-line. One of the best examples were Lombardi's Green Bay teams of the '60s. They had a capable QB in Bart Starr. Paul Hornung was a great all-around athlete, but he was no speed demon at halfback. Didn't matter. They'd just run Hornung and Taylor at you for 4, 3, 5, and 6 yards all the way down the field. I remember listening to Bears-Packers games on the radio then and being frustrated as a teen Bears fan listening to the Packers inexorably march down the field time after time. Even when Starr was knocked out for most of the season and Hornung was suspended for gambling in '63, they still darn near won the title with an 11-2-1 record. The only team to beat them that year was the Bears, who beat them twice and went 11-1-2. Watching those guys block an end sweep was a thing of beauty.
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Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post
You have zero chance without a decent O-line regardless of how many good skill guys you have. IUP had a front row seat for this two seasons ago, and some schools like Ship have been suffering from it for several seasons in a row. It’s a domino effect on the rest of your recruiting too because if I’m a good skill player on offense I’m sure as heck not going to a school where I’m going to get lit up like a Christmas tree every Saturday.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
He's missed a lot of time. Would he be the same player on the field that we remember. Not to mention, if there were a 3rd incident, how would Tort look?
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostFormer IUP star RB Dayjure Stewart is still looking for a home.
Must admit I'm fairly shocked. He had his issues. But, legally speaking, nothing crazy.
Many, many less talented guys with much more severe baggage get signed.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
He's missed a lot of time. Would he be the same player on the field that we remember. Not to mention, if there were a 3rd incident, how would Tort look?
He'd likely look fresh, recharged and ripped. His workout tapes from recently are impressive. He's still young (22 or 23). I'd guess he's pretty hungry, too.
The latter part is the dilemma. He did have 'incidents' but not many of the charges actually stuck (when it was all said and done). So, could they keep him under control from August to November? It's a gamble some would be willing to take.
For the record, I don't think Tort will even entertain it. But, they do need some RB help. Dayjure needs a home. People do change and kids (usually) grow up.
We've brought a lot worse than him in here over the years. He is a game-breaker. His incidents weren't 'that' bad.
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