Survival of schools (Thoughts??)

[libertybearcat]

I'm a college professor who has taught both face-to-face and online courses over the years and I have seen advantages to both modalities. However, I have heard from a significant number of my students that the online format is giving them a lot of difficulty, even though they can go through my lectures and (for the most part) work at their own pace. There's just something about being able to go to a classroom and actually perform the act of learning without having a world of distractions at home, and many of my students miss it (but at the same time they don't want to go back until they know they're safe). In my school's case, there's also the interaction of technology and peoples' resources - I don't teach the most wealthy of students and many of them have very tough situations to deal with at home and at work, so it is difficult to make expectations when it comes to technology and being a student at home.

I have one in college, (plus some of her friends) another one will be next fall and I deal with my Fraternity at NW, haven't really heard anyone that likes the online experience.

[cwfenn]

Has anyone actually spoken with students about their experiences with online classes? The ones I have do not like it and are clamoring to be back on campus. While I agree with the loss of worthless majors, I'm not yet convinced a majority of the traditional students will go for the online college experience. I do think things will look different...if college football gets taken away in the fall I think that will really change the sports landscape...losing out on all the money from CFB will kill college sports as we know it.

I'm a college professor who has taught both face-to-face and online courses over the years and I have seen advantages to both modalities. However, I have heard from a significant number of my students that the online format is giving them a lot of difficulty, even though they can go through my lectures and (for the most part) work at their own pace. There's just something about being able to go to a classroom and actually perform the act of learning without having a world of distractions at home, and many of my students miss it (but at the same time they don't want to go back until they know they're safe). In my school's case, there's also the interaction of technology and peoples' resources - I don't teach the most wealthy of students and many of them have very tough situations to deal with at home and at work, so it is difficult to make expectations when it comes to technology and being a student at home.

[GorillaTeacher]

[Brandon]

12% to be precise.

There is a story that they expert herd immunity within weeks.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/no-l...-in-weeks.html

[GorillaTeacher]

I'd play, but I don't think arenas of higher education would...too much risk for bad publicity and most if not all follow the flawed models predicting millions of deaths and the only way to stop it is total shutdown. The non-shut down models in Japan, Singapore, Taiwan have much lower death rates and Sweden's are similar to the US and none of them shut down their economies.

[ruwallydog]

[Predatory Primates]

My oldest is in Engineering at Iowa State...that is definitely a hands on major. She's missing out on a Materials Engineering Lab this spring...watching videos of it instead of doing it. She doesn't think it is any substitute.

If attending college on campus stops or is significantly negatively impacted, I doubt college sports will continue to be anywhere near what they are now.

I can definitely see that being a major where on campus is really important..

As to the latter part. Big time college sports is so far removed from its' original purpose that it might be a good thing in some ways.

[libertybearcat]

I was thinking last night...

I wish a way existed to evaluate the quality of learning in the two models beyond "I like it" or "I don't like it." I don't know that there is.

My oldest is in Engineering at Iowa State...that is definitely a hands on major. She's missing out on a Materials Engineering Lab this spring...watching videos of it instead of doing it. She doesn't think it is any substitute.

If attending college on campus stops or is significantly negatively impacted, I doubt college sports will continue to be anywhere near what they are now.

[Brandon]

Has anyone actually spoken with students about their experiences with online classes? The ones I have do not like it and are clamoring to be back on campus. While I agree with the loss of worthless majors, I'm not yet convinced a majority of the traditional students will go for the online college experience. I do think things will look different...if college football gets taken away in the fall I think that will really change the sports landscape...losing out on all the money from CFB will kill college sports as we know it.

I was thinking last night...

I wish a way existed to evaluate the quality of learning in the two models beyond "I like it" or "I don't like it." I don't know that there is.

[laker]

Urbana from the MEC closed today.

[Predatory Primates]

Although the experiantial/hands on classes are impossible to do remotely, so people in majors with lots of that are definitely getting shortchanged.

[Predatory Primates]

My daughter is in school, and while she and her friends miss the social aspects of being in on and around campus, they don't mind the online classes.

Most students these days turn in assignments remotely, and take an onlne class or two a semester anyway.

[libertybearcat]

I'd play, but I don't think arenas of higher education would...too much risk for bad publicity and most if not all follow the flawed models predicting millions of deaths and the only way to stop it is total shutdown. The non-shut down models in Japan, Singapore, Taiwan have much lower death rates and Sweden's are similar to the US and none of them shut down their economies.

[Opinionated]

[libertybearcat]

Has anyone actually spoken with students about their experiences with online classes? The ones I have do not like it and are clamoring to be back on campus. While I agree with the loss of worthless majors, I'm not yet convinced a majority of the traditional students will go for the online college experience. I do think things will look different...if college football gets taken away in the fall I think that will really change the sports landscape...losing out on all the money from CFB will kill college sports as we know it.