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  • #91
    Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post

    That and they have only appeared in 2 AFC Championship games under the Oilers Flag.

    That being said I enjoy watching the Texans with CJ Stroud and hope they make a deep playoff run and are set up for future ones.

    Give me CJ Stroud over Dak 24/7 and no point arguing back.
    Comparing Dak rookie & CJ rookie years is all I could do to get an objective view. Anything else is purely subjective.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dak_Prescott
    104.9 rtg 29 total TDs 25 sacks 4 lost fumbles 4 ints

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._J._Stroud
    100.8 rtg 26 total TDs 38 sacks 4 lost fumbles 5 ints

    You can pick whichever you prefer, it matters not to me, AT ALL.



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    • #92
      Originally posted by BuffaloChip View Post

      I bet JJ would trade Dak (and his salary) for Stroud (and his). Haha!
      Salary cap will be an issue!

      I am not sure why Prescott has poor play-off success,but the fact is he has posted REAL results during regular season.

      Is he the best QB in the nfl? Absolutely not. He is a 2nd tier QB who works HARD to post 12-5 seasons. And the BS about he only excels at beating the lessor teams, um.....that's true for damn near every QB....LMAO.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by WT_TKW View Post

        Since we are going way back to the 60's to brag about championships, the Oilers won 2 AFL titles out of the 4 championship games they played in.

        The loses in the AFC championship games were to the Steelers who won the Super Bowl. In the second one the Oilers were cheated out of a TD by a bad call.
        *YAWN*

        Houston Oilers......L M F A O 😂😂😂💀💀💀💀

        Did they let you out in public today?

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        • #94
          Originally posted by WT_TKW View Post

          No one wants to trade for Dak.

          You are right, he will probably still be able to win 12 games a year in '58. Jerry will probably still be GM too! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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          • #95
            Originally posted by ASUPops View Post

            Salary cap will be an issue!

            I am not sure why Prescott has poor play-off success,but the fact is he has posted REAL results during regular season.

            Is he the best QB in the nfl? Absolutely not. He is a 2nd tier QB who works HARD to post 12-5 seasons. And the BS about he only excels at beating the lessor teams, um.....that's true for damn near every QB....LMAO.
            Everyone else knows why he sucks in the playoffs. He’s a choker just like Tony Romo.

            Joe Gibbs is arguably the best coach in NFL history because he won Superbowls with 3 average quarterbacks. Theissman, Williams, and Rypien.

            How many has Belichick won without Brady? Walsh had Montana and Young. Old Tom wouldn't have won any without Staubach, who is the only Cowboy QB I’ve ever admired.

            McCarthy won 1 with Rodgers. Dak is no Rodgers but should win Least Valuable Player.
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            • #96
              Originally posted by WT_TKW View Post

              Everyone else knows why he sucks in the playoffs. He’s a choker just like Tony Romo.

              Joe Gibbs is arguably the best coach in NFL history because he won Superbowls with 3 average quarterbacks. Theissman, Williams, and Rypien.

              How many has Belichick won without Brady? Walsh had Montana and Young. Old Tom wouldn't have won any without Staubach, who is the only Cowboy QB I’ve ever admired.

              McCarthy won 1 with Rodgers. Dak is no Rodgers but should win Least Valuable Player.
              The best, haha, no, not quite. Top 10, absolutely!

              Doesn'tmatter who you did or didn't admire. FYI Staubach was 16th round 122nd pick, in today's draft he would have been a 4th rounder at 122nd. FYI, Prescott was a 4th rounder 135th.

              (As far as Roger, he is a magnificent guy. Have done business with him and belong to the same organizations and club for years. There are not too many better men than Roger.)

              And NOTHING you say holds any significance and can only be taken with barely a grain of salt as you are a Cowboys Hater.

              Same M.O. you have with your own alma mater. If it doesn't go YOUR way, you will stubbornly stand against EVERYTHING and ANYTHING. Will we ever hear the end of tbe WT stadium issue, the Carthels, or McBroom???? NOPE!

              So, keep talking and I'll keep laughing at your posts my friend. 😂😂

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              • #97
                Originally posted by ASUPops View Post
                Comparing Dak rookie & CJ rookie years is all I could do to get an objective view. Anything else is purely subjective.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dak_Prescott
                104.9 rtg 29 total TDs 25 sacks 4 lost fumbles 4 ints

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._J._Stroud
                100.8 rtg 26 total TDs 38 sacks 4 lost fumbles 5 ints

                You can pick whichever you prefer, it matters not to me, AT ALL.


                The glaring weakness in this argument is that in Dak's rookie year he had several weapons in their prime and in the pro bowl consistently at the skill and o-line positions (Zeke, Dez, Whitten, Tyron Smith, Zack Martin, Travis Frederick, etc.).

                Of course ironically that season ended with the Cowboys falling way behind the Packers at home in the playoffs and $hitting that bed also.

                CJ Stroud is doing this with a new rookie coaching staff and only person on the whole team making the pro bowl (Laremy Tunsil).

                Without googling I doubt most people can tell you who the starting wide receivers and running back are for the Texans.

                Noah Brown and Dalton Schultz are former Cowboys that are contributing nicely.

                Unless CJ Stroud regresses badly my point still stands and its not even a close argument.
                Last edited by Buffalo/Islander Alum; 01-19-2024, 07:48 AM.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by WT_TKW View Post

                  Since we are going way back to the 60's to brag about championships, the Oilers won 2 AFL titles out of the 4 championship games they played in.

                  The loses in the AFC championship games were to the Steelers who won the Super Bowl. In the second one the Oilers were cheated out of a TD by a bad call.
                  Going to AFL Days?? Thats a stretch.

                  Oilers would have lost that 79 game even if Renfro made that catch.

                  Oilers also choked a couple of games that they were way ahead in (91 vs. Bills) and heavy favorites against (Chiefs 93) in the playoffs.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post

                    The glaring weakness in this argument is that in Dak's rookie year he had several weapons in their prime and in the pro bowl consistently at the skill and o-line positions (Zeke, Dez, Whitten, Tyron Smith, Zack Martin, Travis Frederick, etc.).

                    Of course ironically that season ended with the Cowboys falling way behind the Packers at home in the playoffs and $hitting that bed also.

                    CJ Stroud is doing this with a new rookie coaching staff and only person on the whole team making the pro bowl (Laremy Tunsil).

                    Without googling I doubt most people can tell you who the starting wide receivers and running back are for the Texans.

                    Noah Brown and Dalton Schultz are former Cowboys that are contributing nicely.

                    Unless CJ Stroud regresses badly my point still stands and its not even a close argument.
                    Time will tell on Stroud. I am not impressed. And what are you talking about???? Maybe YOU should learn their roster LMAO.

                    AND you do realize Dak and Zeke were in the same draft class, right????

                    Martin was only drafted 2 years before Dak. Travis F had his only 1st team all pro year the same year Dak was drafted.

                    Not a single receiver was near 1,000 yds. And 3 of 5 OL had 3 years or less experience.

                    Stroud has Laremy Tunsil and two time super bowl champion Shaq Mason. Veteran George Fant played RT vs Browns.

                    WR Nico Collins with over 1,200 yards!! Dell, rookie, with over 700 yds, Schultz & Brown with another 1,200 yds combined.

                    But Stroud does not have a RB like Zeke was in his rookie year.

                    Again, the 10-7 regular season record does NOT impress me at ALL. Especially in the WEAK AFC South.

                    Come talk to me in 5 more years about Stroud. Let's see how he is doing. Lol.

                    Houston will be eliminated this week.
                    Last edited by ASUPops; 01-20-2024, 06:20 PM.

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                    • Yup CJ Stroud is killing it against the Ravens. HAHA. with 5 mins left he is 17/30 for 152 yds 0 TDs & 3 for 9 rushing 0 TDs. What a PHENOMENAL QB1. ZERO OFFENSE. 🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀

                      BYE BYE HOUSTON. Got a place on the couch for ya!

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                      • Originally posted by ASUPops View Post
                        Yup CJ Stroud is killing it against the Ravens. HAHA. with 5 mins left he is 17/30 for 152 yds 0 TDs & 3 for 9 rushing 0 TDs. What a PHENOMENAL QB1. ZERO OFFENSE. 🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀

                        BYE BYE HOUSTON. Got a place on the couch for ya!
                        Coleridge looks the part, certainly not the usual OSU QB bust thus far.

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                        • Originally posted by Turbonium View Post

                          Coleridge looks the part, certainly not the usual OSU QB bust thus far.
                          Talk to me 5 years from now.

                          I can only stand with history and evidence of OSU QBs in the NFL.

                          We'll see. But, TODAY, CJ is at home, watching. Same as Dak and 25 other NFL starting QBs (soon to be 27).

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                          • Originally posted by ASUPops View Post

                            Time will tell on Stroud. I am not impressed. And what are you talking about???? Maybe YOU should learn their roster LMAO.

                            AND you do realize Dak and Zeke were in the same draft class, right????

                            Martin was only drafted 2 years before Dak. Travis F had his only 1st team all pro year the same year Dak was drafted.

                            Not a single receiver was near 1,000 yds. And 3 of 5 OL had 3 years or less experience.

                            Stroud has Laremy Tunsil and two time super bowl champion Shaq Mason. Veteran George Fant played RT vs Browns.

                            WR Nico Collins with over 1,200 yards!! Dell, rookie, with over 700 yds, Schultz & Brown with another 1,200 yds combined.

                            But Stroud does not have a RB like Zeke was in his rookie year.

                            Again, the 10-7 regular season record does NOT impress me at ALL. Especially in the WEAK AFC South.

                            Come talk to me in 5 more years about Stroud. Let's see how he is doing. Lol.

                            Houston will be eliminated this week.
                            I know their roster, I live down here and see the Texans almost every day on the news and Sunday game days.

                            The casual fan does not and would get the same response from me if they asked me on the spot who the wide receivers and running backs are for the Panthers.

                            It doesnt matter when they were drafted.

                            WIth the exception of Tunisil, I would have taken every prime Cowboy player at their position during Dak's run.

                            The NFC East doesn't impress any more than the AFC South most years.

                            Eagles and Cowboys will have a given 5-1 division record for years to come until something changes.

                            Stroud had some good throws but playing the top seed on the road without a legit running back against a good defense made it tough.

                            More importantly he had ZERO interceptions.

                            It was his second playoff game and everything considered he did decent and tried to manage the game which they did for a half unlike Dak who is good for multiple turnovers and pick 6s every year in the playoffs.

                            At least the Texans didn't roll over at home in the wild card round against a top tier Browns defense.

                            I agree on the wait and see.
                            Last edited by Buffalo/Islander Alum; 01-22-2024, 06:45 AM.

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                            • Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post

                              I know their roster, I live down here and see the Texans almost every day on the news and Sunday game days.

                              The casual fan does not and would get the same response from me if they asked me on the spot who the wide receivers and running backs are for the Panthers.

                              It doesnt matter when they were drafted.

                              WIth the exception of Tunisil, I would have taken every prime Cowboy player at their position during Dak's run.

                              The NFC East doesn't impress any more than the AFC South most years.

                              Eagles and Cowboys will have a given 5-1 division record for years to come until something changes.

                              Stroud had some good throws but playing the top seed on the road without a legit running back against a good defense made it tough.

                              More importantly he had ZERO interceptions.

                              It was his second playoff game and everything considered he did decent and tried to manage the game which they did for a half unlike Dak who is good for multiple turnovers and pick 6s every year in the playoffs.

                              At least the Texans didn't roll over at home in the wild card round against a top tier Browns defense.

                              I agree on the wait and see.
                              Of course it matters....7070707. Unless you are saying experience and time in the system is insignificant. So, universities should eliminate Redshirt....it doesn't matter. 707

                              So, you weren't impressed with the Eagles (NFC East) going to the SB last year. Gotcha. LMAO.

                              I didn't realize you were a Houstonian, that explains it ALL. For sime reason I thought you lived outside of Texas.

                              If you thought Stroud played well against the Ravens and performed better than Prescott, you know less about QB play than I thought. Yes, zero Ints and ZERO TDs. Hard to win when you CAN'T score. 😂😂 So funny dude. Typical Houston fan.

                              Player C/Att Yds TD. Int
                              D. Prescott. 41/60 403 3 2

                              CJ Stroud 19/33 175 O O

                              Rushing
                              Player. Car Yds. Avg. TD
                              D. Prescott. 9 45 7.5 O

                              CJ Stroud 3 9 3.0 O

                              Guess we will see who is better when they meet head to head next season at AT&T.

                              FYI.....On a Dallas vs Houston note, I am STILL laughing over the 11-4 thrashing Houston got by THE Texas Rangers. 707070707

                              EVERYTHING HOUSTON SUCKS!!!!! And STINKS!!! 707070707


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                              • Originally posted by ASUPops View Post

                                Of course it matters....7070707. Unless you are saying experience and time in the system is insignificant. So, universities should eliminate Redshirt....it doesn't matter. 707

                                So, you weren't impressed with the Eagles (NFC East) going to the SB last year. Gotcha. LMAO.

                                I didn't realize you were a Houstonian, that explains it ALL. For sime reason I thought you lived outside of Texas.

                                If you thought Stroud played well against the Ravens and performed better than Prescott, you know less about QB play than I thought. Yes, zero Ints and ZERO TDs. Hard to win when you CAN'T score. 😂😂 So funny dude. Typical Houston fan.

                                Player C/Att Yds TD. Int
                                D. Prescott. 41/60 403 3 2

                                CJ Stroud 19/33 175 O O

                                Rushing
                                Player. Car Yds. Avg. TD
                                D. Prescott. 9 45 7.5 O

                                CJ Stroud 3 9 3.0 O

                                Guess we will see who is better when they meet head to head next season at AT&T.

                                FYI.....On a Dallas vs Houston note, I am STILL laughing over the 11-4 thrashing Houston got by THE Texas Rangers. 707070707

                                EVERYTHING HOUSTON SUCKS!!!!! And STINKS!!! 707070707

                                Eh wrong and wrong.

                                I grew up in Amarillo and not a native Houstonian.

                                I am a Rangers fan and despise the Astros. LSC Fan can definitely tell you that.

                                Was not impressed by the Eagles at all.

                                They beat a bad NY Giants team first round and beat a 49ers team that lost their QB early in the game the next.

                                All I know is I didn't see Dak in the divisional round and I saw CJ.

                                LOL at Dak's stats. You realize he put up 3/4 of those when the Packers were already up by 4 scores? 😂

                                Both teams would have been smashed by the Ravens last week, probably all of them have.

                                Dak would have had similar stats as the Ravens dont play prevent defense when they are up late in games.

                                Ravens smashed the 49ers in their yard a few weeks ago.

                                2024 season will be a better indicator how each QB and team progresses and regresses.

                                Long Term the Texans are better set up for success.

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