Utpb 2025

[Runnin' Cat]

You and your "wagers" and "bets". What does this prove to you? LMAO 707070707

I poked holes in your statement ALREADY. Yeah making it to the ship 2 out of the past 3 years SUCKS!!! 😂😂😂


FACTS are FACTS.....
https://www.ncaa.com/history/football/d2

So Harding, a GAC team, has one run to the NC, but that isn't questioned....

[ASUPops]

So Harding, a GAC team, has one run to the NC, but that isn't questioned....

Noooo! They are superior and make the GAC a superior conference. 🤣🤣

The "logic" of government workers. 😉

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

So Harding, a GAC team, has one run to the NC, but that isn't questioned....

There is nothing to question here. Harding went through the toughest region in the country that year (beating Central Missouri and Grand Valley) and they made Colorado Mines look like Sul Ross in the Championship game. They also blew out a very good Pitt State team on the road last year. No team was going to beat Ferris the past year.

I know some of you are trying to make Mines out as if they are a national power. They are very good but in reality they were the Notre Dame of D2 once they played against a very good team (Valdosta, Ferris, and Harding).

I will eat crow but a long drought is going to start back up again for the RMAC and LSC unless Harding drops way off.

Simply put the top 2 of the MIAA and GAC is better than the top 2 of the RMAC and LSC.

This bet goes for anyone. Ill bet $100, $500, $1000, etc. to back it up.

[Turbonium]

There is nothing to question here. Harding went through the toughest region in the country that year (beating Central Missouri and Grand Valley) and they made Colorado Mines look like Sul Ross in the Championship game. They also blew out a very good Pitt State team on the road last year. No team was going to beat Ferris the past year.

I know some of you are trying to make Mines out as if they are a national power. They are very good but in reality they were the Notre Dame of D2 once they played against a very good team (Valdosta, Ferris, and Harding).

I will eat crow but a long drought is going to start back up again for the RMAC and LSC unless Harding drops way off.

Simply put the top 2 of the MIAA and GAC is better than the top 2 of the RMAC and LSC.

This bet goes for anyone. Ill bet $100, $500, $1000, etc. to back it up.

Eh, the GAC is a one team conference. When was the last time a GAC team not named Harding won a single playoff game?

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

Eh, the GAC is a one team conference. When was the last time a GAC team not named Harding won a single playoff game?

Fair point but Ouachita Baptist did beat Harding last year and took Central Oklahoma to overtime last year in the playoffs.

It goes back to how tough SR3 is. Now I think a second place GAC team has a much better chance of winning a playoff game in a much weaker SR4.

When the third place team from the NSIC in Bemidji State can go on the road and beat the better teams SR4 had to offer (UTPB, ASU, and Western Colorado) and had Central Washington in a 3 score hole in their playoff game, then that points to the current weakness of the LSC and RMAC overall now.

[Runnin' Cat]

Fair point but Ouachita Baptist did beat Harding last year and took Central Oklahoma to overtime last year in the playoffs.

It goes back to how tough SR3 is. Now I think a second place GAC team has a much better chance of winning a playoff game in a much weaker SR4.

When the third place team from the NSIC in Bemidji State can go on the road and beat the better teams SR4 had to offer (UTPB, ASU, and Western Colorado) and had Central Washington in a 3 score hole in their playoff game, then that points to the current weakness of the LSC and RMAC overall now.

So now it is reduced to :team A was ahead by a lot but lost so that proves they are better"?

Take a break. The mental gymnastics have to be exhausting!

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

So now it is reduced to :team A was ahead by a lot but lost so that proves they are better"?

Take a break. The mental gymnastics have to be exhausting!

Of course you ignore the other 3 seeded teams they actually beat. Ok I will write in crayon for you. In my opinion (its the offseason so we bull$hit) the MIAA and GAC playoff teams will be better than the RMAC and LSC playoff teams. Whats awesome is they are all in the same region now so it will play out both non conference and the playoffs. Then either way I can say told you so or you can say I suck the huge one and dont know what I am talking about if the RMAC or LSC make it to the semis.

Put your money where your mouth is like me or at least make an interesting side bet.

[Turbonium]

Of course you ignore the other 3 seeded teams they actually beat. Ok I will write in crayon for you. In my opinion (its the offseason so we bull$hit) the MIAA and GAC playoff teams will be better than the RMAC and LSC playoff teams. Whats awesome is they are all in the same region now so it will play out both non conference and the playoffs. Then either way I can say told you so or you can say I suck the huge one and dont know what I am talking about if the RMAC or LSC make it to the semis.

Put your money where your mouth is like me or at least make an interesting side bet.

I am looking forward to some new matchups for the RMAC and LSC, starting with Pueblo's first two games of the season against MIAA teams. Believe it will be their first (post 2008 Pueblo for those historians like Runnin') taste of the MIAA.

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

I am looking forward to some new matchups for the RMAC and LSC, starting with Pueblo's first two games of the season against MIAA teams. Believe it will be their first (post 2008 Pueblo for those historians like Runnin') taste of the MIAA.

Totally agree and excited for it. Also Pitt State plays both Ferris State and Grand Valley non conference as well. If Pitt State finishes 11-0 with that schedule then I am all in on all retirement funds with any bet against LSC and RMAC teams. 🤣

[Runnin' Cat]

Of course you ignore the other 3 seeded teams they actually beat. Ok I will write in crayon for you. In my opinion (its the offseason so we bull$hit) the MIAA and GAC playoff teams will be better than the RMAC and LSC playoff teams. Whats awesome is they are all in the same region now so it will play out both non conference and the playoffs. Then either way I can say told you so or you can say I suck the huge one and dont know what I am talking about if the RMAC or LSC make it to the semis.

Put your money where your mouth is like me or at least make an interesting side bet.

Didn't ignore it at all. Just pointing out how you exaggerate to make a point.

How about a bet of 100 grand?

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

Didn't ignore it at all. Just pointing out how you exaggerate to make a point.

How about a bet of 100 grand?

Exaggerating how I compare history and current events to make a conclusion?

Last team from the LSC/RMAC to make it to the national semi-finals before the MIAA left the region in 2012 was Texas A&M-Kingsville in 2003.

Its no accident when the MIAA left the first year that a LSC team made it to the semi-finals (WT) in 2012 and Pueblo winning it all for the RMAC in 2014.

We will see if the trends return pre 2012.

I play poker and do sports betting on the side so yeah if I see a high chance of something happening I tend to take advantage.

This is one of many reasons I miss Brandon being at full health to educate on history as well.

[Runnin' Cat]

https://www.myteamisbetterthanyourteam.com/path

When was the last time an MIAA team made it to the last four?

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

https://www.myteamisbetterthanyourteam.com/path

When was the last time an MIAA team made it to the last four?

2016. The next year in 2017 they were moved into the SR3 region with the GLIAC teams when Ferris State was starting up their "dynasty".

You two keep making my points over and over. RMAC and the LSC would not have advanced past SR3 during those times either with the exception maybe being 2018 when Commerce won it.

We can certainly post this topic in the main forum and most will agree the MIAA/GAC teams/champs would be heavy favorites to meet in the regional final this year for sure.

[Runnin' Cat]

2016.

Was that they year that NWMSU beat Harding 35-0 in the Regional Final?

The point that you miss is that things change year-to-year a lot more, and it isn't all about alignment of regions. Dynasties come and wane.

Is the new region alignment going to impact the LSC? Yes, it is. We will see what that might be. The MIAA is well down from that pre-2016 era.

Time will tell.

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

Was that they year that NWMSU beat Harding 35-0 in the Regional Final?

The point that you miss is that things change year-to-year a lot more, and it isn't all about alignment of regions. Dynasties come and wane.

Is the new region alignment going to impact the LSC? Yes, it is. We will see what that might be. The MIAA is well down from that pre-2016 era.

Time will tell.

Hey we reach agreement.

I will say this. If Pitt State finishes their regular season 11-0 with their schedule, you will have a he!! of a time convincing me that they arent the team to beat.