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    The settlement was approved yesterday. FCS schools will have their share of revenue sharing reduced to help pay the 2.8 Billion in back pay. FCS commissioners are complaining that they are having their wages garnished with out any input. You mean the universities that make billions don’t care what the schools that don’t make money think? Oh my

    plus going forward D1 schools must revenue share with athletes. This is going to cause more financial stress for marginal D1 schools than Title IX did in the 80s. I n the 80s schools either dropped sports like football to stay D1 or they dropped to D2. The only difference is that there is some tv or streaming revenue that didn’t exist in the 80s.


  • #2
    Originally posted by Rockofwesties View Post
    The settlement was approved yesterday. FCS schools will have their share of revenue sharing reduced to help pay the 2.8 Billion in back pay. FCS commissioners are complaining that they are having their wages garnished with out any input. You mean the universities that make billions don’t care what the schools that don’t make money think? Oh my

    plus going forward D1 schools must revenue share with athletes. This is going to cause more financial stress for marginal D1 schools than Title IX did in the 80s. I n the 80s schools either dropped sports like football to stay D1 or they dropped to D2. The only difference is that there is some tv or streaming revenue that didn’t exist in the 80s.
    No big deal. Schools can only pay out up to $20.2M a year to players. I'm sure all those FCS schools are ready to handle that. And surely EVERY (rich and profitable-aren't they all?) FBS school, too.
    Last edited by BuffaloChip; 06-07-2025, 02:51 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Rockofwesties View Post
      The settlement was approved yesterday. FCS schools will have their share of revenue sharing reduced to help pay the 2.8 Billion in back pay. FCS commissioners are complaining that they are having their wages garnished with out any input. You mean the universities that make billions don’t care what the schools that don’t make money think? Oh my

      plus going forward D1 schools must revenue share with athletes. This is going to cause more financial stress for marginal D1 schools than Title IX did in the 80s. I n the 80s schools either dropped sports like football to stay D1 or they dropped to D2. The only difference is that there is some tv or streaming revenue that didn’t exist in the 80s.
      Schools are not required to share revenues. They are now allowed to do so. Compensation to athletes for low-D1 athletes is going to be minimal, as the budgets for these programs are primarily subsidized by the students.

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      • #4
        I was shocked to learn about Texas Tech’s star pitcher, Canady, who got rocked for 5 runs in the first inning in last night’s loss to Texas. She had started her 3rd straight game, which was a bad idea. However she is getting a million a year from NIL!

        To be fair I don’t like Tech but was impressed by them not giving up. Texas was ahead 10-0 in the top of the fifth. Tech could have just relaxed and gone home due to the run rule but instead scored 3 runs to keep the game alive. They lost anyway but they did their best.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by WT_TKW View Post
          I was shocked to learn about Texas Tech’s star pitcher, Canady, who got rocked for 5 runs in the first inning in last night’s loss to Texas. She had started her 3rd straight game, which was a bad idea. However she is getting a million a year from NIL!

          To be fair I don’t like Tech but was impressed by them not giving up. Texas was ahead 10-0 in the top of the fifth. Tech could have just relaxed and gone home due to the run rule but instead scored 3 runs to keep the game alive. They lost anyway but they did their best.
          Yep I have severe hatred for Tech at every turn and was hoping they would get embarrassed run ruled by Texas in that 3rd game. It would have been a different story if Tech pulled out Game 1 and could have rested Canady game 2 the same way Texas rested Kavan game 2. I was too impressed with Canady willing to pitch her arm off even after getting paid twice. Tech had no choice and the run rule would have happened had they started someone other than Canady. They need another pitcher and two hitters to be a legitimate team threat next year instead of trying to beat every good team out there 1-0, 2-1, etc. with Canady alone.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MooseLodge View Post

            Schools are not required to share revenues. They are now allowed to do so. Compensation to athletes for low-D1 athletes is going to be minimal, as the budgets for these programs are primarily subsidized by the students.
            https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...ar%20agreement.

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            • #7
              Yeah I don't see most FCS schools doling out big dollars for ballers. If a Nichols State really wanted to make a splash, they'd allocate $5 million toward a few basketball players and make some noise in the NCAA.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MooseLodge View Post

                Yeah I don't see most FCS schools doling out big dollars for ballers. If a Nichols State really wanted to make a splash, they'd allocate $5 million toward a few basketball players and make some noise in the NCAA.
                Thats what McNeese did the last couple of years when Wil Wade was there.

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                • #9
                  I think D2 is better off. Sure, every team has some guys who have developed and can play up a division, but for the most part they are D2 players, which is great. I think the D2 game can maintain in the new world of athletics.

                  I follow one FCS team, Idaho, from my hometown. The last couple years they have been decimated by the portal, losing upwards of 20 guys each year. Their coach took the New Mexico job and took guys with him. Eight miles across the border at WSU, their coach left South Dakota State, and took 25 of his players with him. Just brutal. I'm a WSU fan and do NOT approve of those actions.

                  That said, I think D2 is in a good spot and if some schools want to move up and play chase the $$$ game to get last in their FCS leagues, have at it.

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                  • #10
                    I've never been particularly bullish on Division 2 until the last three or four years. It is going to become increasingly attractive to lower D1 programs, due to a lot better predictability of budgeting and cash flow. Of course, that will then upset the traditional balance of power in the division, as the highest budget programs are going to be the winners, as they always are. The bottom feeder D2s will have a really hard time hanging on.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MooseLodge View Post
                      I've never been particularly bullish on Division 2 until the last three or four years. It is going to become increasingly attractive to lower D1 programs, due to a lot better predictability of budgeting and cash flow. Of course, that will then upset the traditional balance of power in the division, as the highest budget programs are going to be the winners, as they always are. The bottom feeder D2s will have a really hard time hanging on.
                      I just don't think D1's are going to drop to D2. The branding of D1 is vastly overrated, but admins really like it. It makes them think they're big time, when they're not. A couple of chump schools moved up this year, right? It's all to lose by 40 in the first round of the Big Dance, to collect that money and see people scream when they take a 2-0 lead 10 seconds into the game. Like clockwork, CBS cameras show the cheerleaders going nuts with that 2-0 lead. Heaven forbid they take a 20-18 lead, then upset alerts are all over the place, by then fans are like, "We've made it to the big time!" Final score, big time school 88, D1wannabe 49. But the admins got the check and stupid "upset alert" publicity that was never going to happen.

                      The bottom feeder D2's will stay on or go D3. I don't see a college president being able to tell Joe Booster they're going D2.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tsull View Post

                        I just don't think D1's are going to drop to D2. The branding of D1 is vastly overrated, but admins really like it. It makes them think they're big time, when they're not. A couple of chump schools moved up this year, right? It's all to lose by 40 in the first round of the Big Dance, to collect that money and see people scream when they take a 2-0 lead 10 seconds into the game. Like clockwork, CBS cameras show the cheerleaders going nuts with that 2-0 lead. Heaven forbid they take a 20-18 lead, then upset alerts are all over the place, by then fans are like, "We've made it to the big time!" Final score, big time school 88, D1wannabe 49. But the admins got the check and stupid "upset alert" publicity that was never going to happen.

                        The bottom feeder D2's will stay on or go D3. I don't see a college president being able to tell Joe Booster they're going D2.
                        Only if their finances are a complete wreck with no hope of redemption.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BuffaloChip View Post

                          Only if their finances are a complete wreck with no hope of redemption.
                          FCS programs have a lot of financial hurdles facing them that they didn't 6 months ago. One is that they are on the hook for $300K a year to the NCAA for the next 10 years. Another is that their money games with P4 teams are in jeopardy. Those games will get played in 2025 and possibly 2026, but the P4s are all in on FBS only, and the lower FBS - those in the G5 - are also under tremendous pressure to keep their own schedules tough for the at large G5 bid to the CFP.

                          These two factors combined translate into as much as $2 million a year expense and/or lost revenue. Combine that with declining enrollments at most, and football-playing FCS schools are suddenly in the wilderness.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MooseLodge View Post

                            FCS programs have a lot of financial hurdles facing them that they didn't 6 months ago. One is that they are on the hook for $300K a year to the NCAA for the next 10 years. Another is that their money games with P4 teams are in jeopardy. Those games will get played in 2025 and possibly 2026, but the P4s are all in on FBS only, and the lower FBS - those in the G5 - are also under tremendous pressure to keep their own schedules tough for the at large G5 bid to the CFP.

                            These two factors combined translate into as much as $2 million a year expense and/or lost revenue. Combine that with declining enrollments at most, and football-playing FCS schools are suddenly in the wilderness.
                            Why do they have to pay the NCAA $300,000 a year for 10 years?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tsull View Post

                              Why do they have to pay the NCAA $300,000 a year for 10 years?
                              That's their share of the $2.8 billion settlement. They are paying that for the privilege of being able to call themselves D1 schools.

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