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  • Columbuseer
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    FYI Season Stats WLU and Malone

    I have shaded the higher relevant stats in green. Note that most of the differences are statistically insignificant.
    Key areas of difference are:
    1) WLU has 11 more possessions per game
    2) WLU has a big edge in offensive rebounding efficiency
    3) WLU shoots more threes, leading to 8% great offensive efficiency
    4) WLU averages 1.27 Points per possession (PPP) versus an outstanding 1.16 PPP for Malone

    Key factors will be:
    1) Can WLU speed up Malone?
    2) Can WLU force turnovers against a team that does not turn the ball over in a half court game?
    3) Can WLU defend rapid ball movement and excellent shot selection of Malone?
    4) Is WLU shooting over 40% from three?
    5) Can WLU control the boards, especially the offensive glass?

    It should be a challenging game.


    Tale of the tape - Season to date
    West liberty Season Malone Season
    Games 19 23
    Points per game 104.8 82.0
    POINTS 1991 1885
    FGM 717 709
    FGA 1436 1455
    FGPCT 49.9% 48.7%
    3FGM 214 194
    3FGA 580 508
    3FGPCT 36.9% 38.2%
    FTM 343 273
    FTA 455 371
    FTPCT 75.4% 73.6%
    REBOUND OFFENSIVE 296 237
    REBOUND DEFENSIVE 551 643
    REBOUND TOTAL 847 0
    ASSISTS 370 381
    TURNOVERS 226 251
    BLOCKS 63 43
    STEALS 177 129
    Num Possessions 1566 1632
    Points per Possession 1.27 1.16
    Assists per 100 Possessions 23.6 23.3
    Assists to FG Made ratio 51.6% 53.7%
    Assist to Turnover Ratio 1.64 1.52
    Turnovers per 100 Possessions
    (< better)
    14.4 15.4
    Opoonent Defensive Rebounds 387 552
    Offensive Rebound Efficiency % 43.3% 30.0%
    Effective FG % 57.4% 55.4%
    Effective FG% Difference (team-Opp) 8.0% 4.1%
    FGA % Diff ((team-Opp.)/Opp) 42.2% 0.1%
    Possessions per game 82 71

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  • Columbuseer
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    FYI OLSH is in wpial 2a finals, beating Jeannette by about 30. Dante got a bunch of steals and assists; also hit a jumper from 33 ft with a hand in his face at end of half.

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  • Scrub
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    Anyone else notice that Malone's starting point guard is named Bryce Butler? That should be fun for Isaac (or whomever will be calling the game on the video feed).

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  • Columbuseer
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    FYI WLU national d2 stat ranking, as of March 8, 2021
    NCAA ranks the 312 D2 schools in 31 national statistics of which only 26 are relevant to the WLU style(See note below)
    WLU ranks:
    • #1 in Scoring offense at 104.8 pts per game
    • top 5 in 8 categories
    • top 10 in 17 categories
    • top 20 in 20 categories
    • top 50 in 24 categories, which is over 92% of the relevant 26 stats
    Note: The WL style is incongruous with some statistics, such as fewest fouls, personal fouls per game, fewest turnovers, turnovers per game, scoring defense, etc., which leaves only 26 relevant stats for WLU.
    Date Stat Rank Value
    3/8/2021 Scoring Offense 1 104.8
    3/8/2021 Assists per game 2 19.5
    3/8/2021 Scoring margin 2 23
    3/8/2021 Total Rebounds per game 2 44.58
    3/8/2021 Total Assists 4 370
    3/8/2021 Turnover margin 4 5.2
    3/8/2021 Assist to turnover ratio 5 1.64
    3/8/2021 Offensive rebounds per game 5 15.58
    3/8/2021 Rebound Margin 6 9
    3/8/2021 Steals per Game 6 9.3
    3/8/2021 Total Rebounds 6 847
    3/8/2021 Three-point FG per game 7 11.3
    3/8/2021 Turnovers forced per game 7 17.11
    3/8/2021 Total steals 8 177
    3/8/2021 3-point FG attempts 9 580
    3/8/2021 Total three-point FG Made 9 214
    3/8/2021 Defensive Rebounds per game 10 29
    3/8/2021 Free Throw Made 12 343
    3/8/2021 FG percentage 14 49.9
    3/8/2021 Free Throw Attempts 14 455
    3/8/2021 Total Blocks 25 63
    3/8/2021 Three Point FG Defense 33 31.70%
    3/8/2021 Free Throw Percentage 35 75.38%
    3/8/2021 Blocked shots per game 48 3.3

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  • Columbuseer
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    FYI Stats on Malone versus Hillsdale
    Only watched a few minutes of Hillsdale game.
    Some observations based mainly on stats
    • look like traditional basketball team with bigs; their Points Per Possession (PPP) was 1.12, which is good for that style of play; WLU is 1.26
    • Good 3-pt shooting at 40%, but only took 20 shots on 66 possessions
    • Shares the ball with assists on 59% of FG made and 24 assists per 100 possessions
    • Takes care of ball with 13.6 turnovers per 100 possessions; but this game was a slow, half court style.
    • Typical offensive rebound efficiency for a "big" oriented team at 30%
    • Effective offense was 50% which is quite average for a good team

    Open Questions:
    • Will WLU pressure disrupt them? Will it reduce their shooting % and increase turnovers?
    • Without Will, can WLU defend their bigs and stay out of foul trouble? they do a good job of getting ball inside.
    • Does Malone have guards who can defend WLU's guards?
    • Can Malone stop WLU in transition?
    • If wlu guards have to sag in on bigs, will Malone make the kick out three?
    • Can WLU win the rebounding battle?
    stats malone
    POINTS 74
    FGM 27
    FGA 61
    FGPCT 44.3%
    3FGM 8
    3FGA 20
    3FGPCT 40.0%
    FTM 12
    FTA 16
    FTPCT 75.0%
    REBOUND OFFENSIVE 11
    REBOUND DEFENSIVE 27
    REBOUND TOTAL 38
    ASSISTS 16
    TURNOVERS 9
    BLOCKS 2
    STEALS 7
    Num Possessions 66
    Points per Possession 1.12
    Assists per 100 Possessions 24.2
    Assists / FG Made % 59.3%
    Assist to Turnover Ratio 1.78
    Turnovers per 100 Possessions
    (< better)
    13.6
    Opponent Defensive Rebounds 25
    Offensive Rebound Efficiency % 30.6%
    Effective FG % 50.8%

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by Columbuseer View Post

    Wondering if some unethical d1 teams might start making a "Sincere" pitch to Bonner to replace Mr. KARMA in their lineup.
    Bonner and Armoni Foster train together all summer. Both could play up. It's a scary thought for us D2 fans.

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  • Columbuseer
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    Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

    Fairmont is a VERY good team, no doubt. Probably among the top 4 or 5 in the region (in no particular order, WLU, IUP, Hurst, Fairmont, UC or Va State or ??). In the past their issue has been keeping their players and coaches. We'll see if this group is different.
    Wondering if some unethical d1 teams might start making a "Sincere" pitch to Bonner to replace Mr. KARMA in their lineup.

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  • boatcapt
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    That's a big part of it. The advantage is there are so few teams with strong enough guard play to deal with it for a whole game. It takes a lot of discipline and self-control. The majority of teams get overwhelmed. If you get sucked in to that 129-110 game ... you'll lose to WL just about every time.

    Bonner, Sanders and Vonhandorf really did a good job with it yesterday. If they add 1-2 guys this off-season -- and get that rotation beyond 6 guys -- that could be a national title contender next year. Bonner and Sanders are as good a 1-2 combo as there is around. Younkin didn't play in the second WL/FSU game (concussion). He's pretty impactful for them.
    Fairmont is a VERY good team, no doubt. Probably among the top 4 or 5 in the region (in no particular order, WLU, IUP, Hurst, Fairmont, UC or Va State or ??). In the past their issue has been keeping their players and coaches. We'll see if this group is different.

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  • boatcapt
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    Originally posted by Scrub View Post

    Indeed, big performances from Dyer & Hazelbaker to keep this thing close. They had looks all day, while Bolon was often being doubled (or at least hedged) at the 3-point line.
    WLU is hunting for that player to step up and replace the replacement (scoring wise) for the loss of Yoakum. From a scoring standpoint, Butler seems to be the guy that has replaced Yoakum, but who is stepping up and replacing the points (and minutes) that Butler was getting pre-Yoakum injury? I'd be comfortable with Dyer handling an increased portion of the scoring load.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by Scrub View Post

    They're trying to bait teams into taking bad shots (i.e., bigs will find themselves open for 3s after breaking the press). When teams take those bad shots (and miss more than they make), it plays right into WLU's hands (cf. the A-B and Frostburg games for bad-shot-apalooza by WLU's opponents). Smart teams with smart coaches have figured out it's best to beat the press, pull it out, and then make WLU defend for 20+ seconds. Glenville did this to perfection two nights ago. WVSU & UC have done this with great success against WLU. And Mercyhurst had no problem pulling it out and grinding (it's what they do anyway).

    If teams are starting to figure out the antidote, Howlett will have to add a wrinkle or two to keep it effective.
    That's a big part of it. The advantage is there are so few teams with strong enough guard play to deal with it for a whole game. It takes a lot of discipline and self-control. The majority of teams get overwhelmed. If you get sucked in to that 129-110 game ... you'll lose to WL just about every time.

    Bonner, Sanders and Vonhandorf really did a good job with it yesterday. If they add 1-2 guys this off-season -- and get that rotation beyond 6 guys -- that could be a national title contender next year. Bonner and Sanders are as good a 1-2 combo as there is around. Younkin didn't play in the second WL/FSU game (concussion). He's pretty impactful for them.

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  • Scrub
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    I questioned that two years ago when WL got beat up by Mercyhurst. I was at the game. The press was useless in that game and it seemed to do nothing but tire out West Liberty.
    They're trying to bait teams into taking bad shots (i.e., bigs will find themselves open for 3s after breaking the press). When teams take those bad shots (and miss more than they make), it plays right into WLU's hands (cf. the A-B and Frostburg games for bad-shot-apalooza by WLU's opponents). Smart teams with smart coaches have figured out it's best to beat the press, pull it out, and then make WLU defend for 20+ seconds. Glenville did this to perfection two nights ago. WVSU & UC have done this with great success against WLU. And Mercyhurst had no problem pulling it out and grinding (it's what they do anyway).

    If teams are starting to figure out the antidote, Howlett will have to add a wrinkle or two to keep it effective.

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  • Scrub
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    Originally posted by Columbuseer View Post

    As you said, Fairmont had to win to make the tourney. They also had a great game plan - they were purposely leaving our worst 3 point shooters wide open while denying our 3 best three point shooters. Thankfully, our open guys hit shots, or it could have been ugly.
    Indeed, big performances from Dyer & Hazelbaker to keep this thing close. They had looks all day, while Bolon was often being doubled (or at least hedged) at the 3-point line.

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  • boatcapt
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    They run the 1-2-1-1 trap on almost every possession. Couple of reasons I think they do this. First, they are trying to get the quick turnover but they are also trying to force the opposing team into a quick game tempo which plays into their hand. I do think they were a little slow in the back end D yesterday. The defender at midcourt seemed to be slow dropping back when Fairmont got a pass into the front court leaving a number of 2 on 1 chances.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    I questioned that two years ago when WL got beat up by Mercyhurst. I was at the game. The press was useless in that game and it seemed to do nothing but tire out West Liberty.

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