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  • Columbuseer
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    WLU Observations: Frostburg State
    • Everyone is making the extra pass, giving up a good shot for a wide-open great shot for a teammate
    • Because of the dribble drive skills of WLU, opponents were sagging, resulting in late close-outs on our 3-point shooters and wide-open looks from 3 for WLU. The result is higher shooting %.
    • WLU is getting over 20 assists per game.
    • In the first half, WLU had 23 made FGs. There were 12 assists. More importantly, on the remaining 11 FGs, there were zero forced shots or missed opportunities for assists. This is a result of the sharing the ball, which leaves wide open opportunities for easy scores on the rim run because opponents are spread to defend the three.
    • Players are taking the easy 10 ft. jumper rather than attempting a contested finish at the rim. This avoids charges, blocks, and reduces missed shots.
    • WLU had 8 players in double figures.
    • WLU is doing a great job of forcing steals (35% of all turnovers), which results in a live ball turnover and fast break opportunities.
    • Because they are sharing the ball, the points per possession the last two games exceeds 1.3, which is incredible. When the ball was sticking against Concord, the pts per possession was a 1.06, which is a consistent stat for high-ball screen, dribble drive teams.
    • The new, less experienced players are getting more and more comfortable in all aspects of the game and playing more effectively.
    • Because WLU plays 12 players, normal game stat comparisons are misleading, unless you extrapolate the stats to 40 minutes of play. Using this approach, WLU has 10 players who would average over 16 points over 40 mins.
    • 5 players have an effective FG % that exceeds 60% (accounts for 3-point shots). Most traditional teams would expect these stats mainly from their big, dominant, inside player. WLU has the equivalent of 5 big men in terms of this stat.
    • 3 players have an assist to Turnover ratio of > 2.5, which is outstanding.
    • Although turnovers could be reduced, most are coming from inexperienced players after the game is out of hand. In addition, they are typically unforced turnovers, resulting from a player trying to make an extra pass for an assist.


    Opponent CONCORD at Glenville St. at Frostburg St.
    Date 01/05/22 01/08/22 01/12/22
    Score 85-67 101-90 124-84
    w/l W W W
    FG 31 38 48
    FGA 71 63 82
    Pct 44% 60% 59%
    3 FG 7 9 12
    3 FGA 26 24 31
    3 FG PCT 27% 38% 39%
    FT 16 16 16
    FTA 22 19 28
    FT PCT 73% 84% 57%
    Off Reb 18 8 13
    Def Reb 31 24 36
    Tot Reb 49 32 49
    Reb Per Game 39.2 38.6 39.3
    PF 17 21 26
    Assist 15 22 24
    Turnovers 17 14 13
    Blk 1 2 5
    Steal 5 6 6
    Pts 85 101 124
    Avg Pts Per Game 95.9 96.3 98.1
    Steals per Forced Turnover 29% 38% 35%
    Assist to TO Ratio 0.88 1.57 1.85
    Assist per FG 48% 58% 50%
    Points Per FGA 1.20 1.60 1.51
    Points Per Possession 1.06 1.31 1.32
    Num Possessions 80 77 94
    OppDefReb 23 19 24
    Off Reb Efficiency 44% 30% 35%
    Forced Turnover 17 16 17
    Game num 13 14 15

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  • Columbuseer
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    9:26 left
    west liberty 97 frostburg 53

    Great sharing of ball and pressure speeding up bobcats.

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  • Columbuseer
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    Wlu 2022 signee luke denbow became leading scorer in ashland hs history on dec 28 at 1,316 points.
    Great player. Here is a video of him in action.
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1473843148782804992

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  • Scrub
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    All playing the same style yes. But maybe more importantly, all coached from the Crutchfield Coaching Tree. There are certainly variations on that style throughout the country (even in our own region at places like ESU, Glenville, etc.). But it only seems to work to a national level of prominence when executed by St. Crutch or one of the disciples. It'd be interesting to see if/when Brandon Smith takes over a team (at Glenville or elsewhere) if he can execute it to the level that both Howlett and Hearn have so far.

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  • Columbuseer
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    FYI
    West Liberty National Ranking after Concord Game as of Jan 7, 2022
    Here are stats where WLU is above 90th percentile.

    Notes:
    Season FT percentage has improved from 66.7 to 70.5 over last month
    Season Offensive rebounding per game has increased by 6% to over 14
    Season 3 pt% holding steady at around 38%
    Nova SE #1 in Scoring Offense, with WLU #2.

    Date National Ranking West Liberty rank Value
    1/7/2021 Scoring Offense 2 95.90
    1/7/2021 Steals Per Game 3 12.60
    1/7/2021 Turnovers Forced 3 20.64
    1/7/2021 Assists Per Game 4 19.80
    1/7/2021 Turnover Margin 4 7.60
    1/7/2021 Scoring Margin 8 19.00
    1/7/2021 Offensive Rebounds per game 11 14.15
    1/7/2021 Assist Turnover Ratio 16 1.52
    1/7/2021 Free-Throw Attempts 16 290.00
    1/7/2021 Three-Point Field Goals Per Game 16 10.70
    1/7/2021 Free-Throw Made 17 218.00
    1/7/2021 Three-Point Attempts 18 369.00

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  • boatcapt
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    Originally posted by Columbuseer View Post

    So true. Ironically, making the extra pass actually leads to more points for our talented one-on-one scorers because it distorts the defense and Ieaves bigger openings for rim runs with no help defense, resulting in easier shots and more and-one chances. Also accelerates defensive fatigue due to ball movement.
    For the most part, they don't seem overly interested in fatiguing rhe other team. When was the last time we had a true "black out?" WLU is good enough to beat many teams playing dribble drive but when competition ramps up in the NCAA Tourney, I fear they will be found lacking when opposing defenses are able to match their athletic ability.

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  • Columbuseer
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    Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

    Dribble happy seems to be a common theme with this Topper team. They need to figure it out before the NCAA Tourney or it will be an early defeat. Beating Willmington, Bowie and Concord is one thing...beating eight NCAA Tourney caliber teams in a row doing it is quite a different proposition.
    So true. Ironically, making the extra pass actually leads to more points for our talented one-on-one scorers because it distorts the defense and Ieaves bigger openings for rim runs with no help defense, resulting in easier shots and more and-one chances. Also accelerates defensive fatigue due to ball movement.

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  • boatcapt
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    Originally posted by Scrub View Post

    Last night didn't surprise me one bit. May always comes in with a lane-clogging plan against WLU. It only works if the players get dribble-happy instead of moving the ball. Well, turns out that some of WLU's players got a bit dribbly, and played right into May's plan (it isn't the first time that's happened against May's teams). WLU's players simply have to play a bit smarter, recognize what Concord wants to do, and avoid falling into the trap.
    Dribble happy seems to be a common theme with this Topper team. They need to figure it out before the NCAA Tourney or it will be an early defeat. Beating Willmington, Bowie and Concord is one thing...beating eight NCAA Tourney caliber teams in a row doing it is quite a different proposition.

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  • Columbuseer
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    Originally posted by Scrub View Post

    Last night didn't surprise me one bit. May always comes in with a lane-clogging plan against WLU. It only works if the players get dribble-happy instead of moving the ball. Well, turns out that some of WLU's players got a bit dribbly, and played right into May's plan (it isn't the first time that's happened against May's teams). WLU's players simply have to play a bit smarter, recognize what Concord wants to do, and avoid falling into the trap.
    Good points. We took the bait instead of making the extra pass. If Concord had more depth, the outcome could have been diiferent.

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  • Scrub
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    Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
    This team is just soooo hot and cold. And there doesn't seem to be any rime or reason to it. Would it surprise anyone if they lost to Frostburg 71-68 and then beat Fairmont 110-85??
    Last night didn't surprise me one bit. May always comes in with a lane-clogging plan against WLU. It only works if the players get dribble-happy instead of moving the ball. Well, turns out that some of WLU's players got a bit dribbly, and played right into May's plan (it isn't the first time that's happened against May's teams). WLU's players simply have to play a bit smarter, recognize what Concord wants to do, and avoid falling into the trap.

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  • boatcapt
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    This team is just soooo hot and cold. And there doesn't seem to be any rime or reason to it. Would it surprise anyone if they lost to Frostburg 71-68 and then beat Fairmont 110-85??

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  • Columbuseer
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    IMHO These last three games have illustrated how the wlu style presents different avenues to win big, even if wlu is having an off night.

    Wilmington - 32 assists on 39 fgs. Given some fgs were due to instant steal and scores that are not applicable for an assist, that is nearly a maximum ratio. It demoralizes teams because it leads to easy shots and negates help defenses. Add in 20 plus turnovers and u have high level wlu basketball and high pts. per possession. Wlu basketball was near its best in many areas.

    Bowie State - tall, long, athletic team with great shooting. They closed out on shooters to block shots. Wlu was rusty after the break. But these bsu players were not skilled in team passing against pressure and gave up many live ball turnovers, with 20 turnovers in the first half alone. Wlu also out-rebounded bsu. They won despite shooting poorly and bsu shooting over 50% from three.

    Concord - great scheme by them to protect the lane to stop drives. Turnovers tied at 17 each. Sloppy night for wlu where players were forcing drives that weren't there, when guys were open due to sagging defense. Quality depth of wlu allowed pressure to wear out Concord, which made them a step slow, despite their efforts to slow the pace of the game. Big rebound advantage for wlu plus our pressure won the day despite inconsistent officiating.

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  • Layton
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    Pretty big ref show tonight

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  • Layton
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    Very gutty effort by them

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