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[boatcapt]

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Valid point.

On the other hand, IUP is going to likely take the full throttle from Kentucky for probably at least 30 minutes. With the way Calipari recruits the one-and-done's ... these games are real important to them for as simple as getting some time to gel on the court together.

I like these games. All of IUP's most recent big seasons started with these types of games. They are glorified practices but it's a really cool experience for the players. They won't see even remotely a team with this athleticism and size again all season.

Two years ago they played Syracuse pretty tough. I remember Jim Boheim even slammed his clipboard calling a timeout. Then the next week Villanova stampeded them by about 60 points.

While I don't think the coach for the name D1 pulls punches and is more than happy to walk out with a 40 point "win," there is part of me that kind of sees the chance for a close game as a tool the D1 HC can use to refocus a squad that might be getting a bit full of themselves. Kind of a - You thought you were good? Well you almost got your a$$ handed to you by a lowly DII program. Now shut your cake holes, focus and play the GD game the way I want you to play it!"

[Columbuseer]

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Think all the examples you show were exhibition games. While exhibition games are a step up from scrimmages, they are still not regular season games.

I am not aware of high level d1 playing very many d2 teams other than in exhibition. Probably because it would hurt strength of schedule even if they beat them badly. Exhibition gives d2 a payday and avoids no win situation for d1.

Way back in 2005 or 2006 Findlay beat Ohio state in exhibition. It was the season before Findlay went undefeated and won the national title. Like Iowa against augustana, Ohio state left their starters in much longer in an attempt to win the game.

[MrAugustana]

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Think all the examples you show were exhibition games. While exhibition games are a step up from scrimmages, they are still not regular season games.

I will say that when Augustana beat Iowa that year, Iowa's starters played as many or more minutes than they did in a good number of their Big Ten games. Augie was up by 15 at one point in the second half, and I think Iowa was pretty desperate to try to come back and win it, exhibition game or not. I doubt McCaffrey was particularly concerned about testing line-up combos and sub patterns and things of that nature by then.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Glenville hit 17 of 37 treys on the Herd.

Might be a sleeper down there with the new coach. That Pallydore (sp) is a beast.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Glenville just about beat Marshall (113-108) the other night and Bellarmine gave Louisville a battle yesterday. Augusta did beat South Carolina.

The rest haven't been overly close so far.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Think all the examples you show were exhibition games. While exhibition games are a step up from scrimmages, they are still not regular season games.

Valid point.

On the other hand, IUP is going to likely take the full throttle from Kentucky for probably at least 30 minutes. With the way Calipari recruits the one-and-done's ... these games are real important to them for as simple as getting some time to gel on the court together.

I like these games. All of IUP's most recent big seasons started with these types of games. They are glorified practices but it's a really cool experience for the players. They won't see even remotely a team with this athleticism and size again all season.

Two years ago they played Syracuse pretty tough. I remember Jim Boheim even slammed his clipboard calling a timeout. Then the next week Villanova stampeded them by about 60 points.

[boatcapt]

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Think all the examples you show were exhibition games. While exhibition games are a step up from scrimmages, they are still not regular season games.

[Columbuseer]

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I agree...For a DII to even stay close (within 20) the D1 would have to have a seriously BAD night or the DII to have one of those unconscious nights were every shot they take finds the bottom of the net. It could happen but only once in 4 blue moons!!

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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I agree...For a DII to even stay close (within 20) the D1 would have to have a seriously BAD night or the DII to have one of those unconscious nights were every shot they take finds the bottom of the net. It could happen but only once in 4 blue moons!!

Duke just ripped Ferris State 132-48

[IUPTrackMan]

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Joe thinks Mercyhurst is the team to beat. Coaches can't vote for their own squad in preseason rankings.

Good call on that!!

[boatcapt]

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It wouldn't even need to be an upstart. Put WL or IUP or whomever against Duke or Kentucky in February -- real game -- and the D2 would lose by 50+ points. Maybe more.

I agree...For a DII to even stay close (within 20) the D1 would have to have a seriously BAD night or the DII to have one of those unconscious nights were every shot they take finds the bottom of the net. It could happen but only once in 4 blue moons!!

[hawks16]

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Coaches' Preseason Poll:

West

1. IUP (8)
2. Slippery Rock
3. Gannon
4. Mercyhurst (1)
5. California
6. UPJ
7. Edinboro
8. Seton Hill
9. Clarion

East

1. West Chester (6)
2. East Stroudsburg (1)
3. Shippensburg (1)
4. Kutztown
5. Millersville
6. Bloomsburg
T-7 Lock Haven
T-7 Mansfield

Joe thinks Mercyhurst is the team to beat. Coaches can't vote for their own squad in preseason rankings.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Yea...I tend to agree.

Kind of like when a DII plays a D1 "close" in a scrimmage and then their supporters make all sort of grandiose proclamations about how they are ALMOST as good as a D1. It will never happen but it would be interesting for one of these upstart DII's to play the big name D1 in the REAL season and see how differently the D1 approached the game. It's one thing "staying close" in a scrimmage...quite a different thing when the real lights come on and the D1 is playing for realz!!

It wouldn't even need to be an upstart. Put WL or IUP or whomever against Duke or Kentucky in February -- real game -- and the D2 would lose by 50+ points. Maybe more.

[boatcapt]

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Option 2

Yea...I tend to agree.

Kind of like when a DII plays a D1 "close" in a scrimmage and then their supporters make all sort of grandiose proclamations about how they are ALMOST as good as a D1. It will never happen but it would be interesting for one of these upstart DII's to play the big name D1 in the REAL season and see how differently the D1 approached the game. It's one thing "staying close" in a scrimmage...quite a different thing when the real lights come on and the D1 is playing for realz!!

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Option 2