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  • #16
    Originally posted by wsufamily View Post
    So who did they run off to get these two on full scholarship? Would be interesting to see who is not back. Staff has a track record now of changing out players quicker than you can get your tires changed at Tires Plus. Hope they finally put a solid product on the floor they have been given plenty of time here to do something and they have done nothing.
    I was waiting for you to come out of your slumber and rain some hatred down on the moment. Glad I no long have to wait!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by wsuguy87 View Post

      I was waiting for you to come out of your slumber and rain some hatred down on the moment. Glad I no long have to wait!
      No kidding

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      • #18
        Originally posted by wsufamily View Post
        So who did they run off to get these two on full scholarship? Would be interesting to see who is not back. Staff has a track record now of changing out players quicker than you can get your tires changed at Tires Plus. Hope they finally put a solid product on the floor they have been given plenty of time here to do something and they have done nothing.
        Ha! You complain when we don’t get quality players. Now you’re complaining when we do.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by wsuguy87 View Post

          I was waiting for you to come out of your slumber and rain some hatred down on the moment. Glad I no long have to wait!
          Rain down hate? I said I was glad they brought in some talent finally. Am I wrong to ask who they ran off? I think that is a legit question. Isn't D2 and WSU about the student first and athlete second? Never used to be this way at WSU but alas that was a while back. Hey how has Brown, Gove and Henderson been doing at WT? Still behind running them off and not being the main reason why WSU had the run they did? Kind of sad the program didn't even recognize John Smith in the D2 HOF that would be a pretty big deal. Malvik just is a great alumni relations guy for the team, just so many former players always around the program now. Its just sad no one sticks up for any of these people so I will do it here its the least I can do. There now you have some hate to chew on.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by wsufamily View Post

            Rain down hate? I said I was glad they brought in some talent finally. Am I wrong to ask who they ran off? I think that is a legit question. Isn't D2 and WSU about the student first and athlete second? Never used to be this way at WSU but alas that was a while back. Hey how has Brown, Gove and Henderson been doing at WT? Still behind running them off and not being the main reason why WSU had the run they did? Kind of sad the program didn't even recognize John Smith in the D2 HOF that would be a pretty big deal. Malvik just is a great alumni relations guy for the team, just so many former players always around the program now. Its just sad no one sticks up for any of these people so I will do it here its the least I can do. There now you have some hate to chew on.
            You're consistent. I'll give you that. Thankfully, I got my umbrella in place long ago so your rain isn't nearly as loud anymore.

            I will add this. I have never said there weren't bad decisions made. I have never said no one has ever been "run off." I have never said they shouldn't honor the past better. I just don't say it in every post. And with such blind hatred. But, as I have said, you do you.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by The Craigler View Post

              Ha! You complain when we don’t get quality players. Now you’re complaining when we do.
              As a non-WSU person, I hesitate to enter this fray, but I had a similar question: How are the scholarships going to be divvied up for all these players? They're going to be stacked next year, no doubt. But with only 10 FTE scholarships to go around at the D2 level, the options are partial scholarships, some players paying their own way, or a couple/few players leaving the program.

              I think that's the reason Billeter brought in only one recruit this year at Augie. He had only so much scholarship money to spread around given all the returning players.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Blue Ridge Viking View Post

                As a non-WSU person, I hesitate to enter this fray, but I had a similar question: How are the scholarships going to be divvied up for all these players? They're going to be stacked next year, no doubt. But with only 10 FTE scholarships to go around at the D2 level, the options are partial scholarships, some players paying their own way, or a couple/few players leaving the program.

                I think that's the reason Billeter brought in only one recruit this year at Augie. He had only so much scholarship money to spread around given all the returning players.
                That’s a good question. I’m not sure how the scholarships are divided. It would be interesting to know.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by The Craigler View Post

                  That’s a good question. I’m not sure how the scholarships are divided. It would be interesting to know.
                  As things stand now Winona has 16 on the roster. Former student manager Brandon Goebel is on as a good guy gift and I’m sure he receives nothing so that leaves 15 to carve up 10 rides. Based on past performance Taylor, Whitelow and maybe Lo Biondo have to be taken care of. The two transfers obviously, so that leaves maybe five for the remaining 10 guys. Perhaps with other sources like academic help and other aid you can effectively push that up a little maybe to the equivalent of a scholarship or two being Winona is a moderate cost state school. I don’t know what is typical for incoming recruits but I think Abdul-Wahid is seen as a Taylor quality replacement and the twins look good on film. Don’t know much about Arenz (is he the brother of Nick?). I’m sure they all have to get something. So let’s say five get full and the rest get a half plus or minus. Is that typical at D2? Who would you say needs more? Would quality new recruits have signed for partial scholarships?I don’t know. I see quite a few teams around with 15 or so guys. Northern comes to mind and I’m sure there are are many others. Do a number of these players hook on for nothing? With the talent Winona has I can see a problem. In the glory days they had awesome front liners but it clearly dropped off when Leaf went to the bench. It seems now almost everyone can at least hold there own. Good problem to have I guess. I’m completely out of my league here but fun to speculate.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Grizzled LU View Post
                    Since I live in St. Louis, I only see SDSU play a few times a year but both guys looked impressive. From what I've seen you've picked up two very good players and I'm sure you'll snag King's brother too. Alou should have gotten more playing time. He's sneaky fast and powerful. I tipped off the Lindenwood coach about both these guys, but too late. Fans I checked with in the Brookings area thought Alou had D1 teams after him. Still can't figure out why they let him go, but he had good talent ahead of him and probably wouldn't have started-- certainly should have gotten more time though.
                    Looks like Noah will be heading to Kirkwood CC. The NSIC can breathe a brief sigh of relief.

                    https://mobile.twitter.com/RyanJames...31081281294336

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by MrAugustana View Post

                      Looks like Noah will be heading to Kirkwood CC. The NSIC can breathe a brief sigh of relief.

                      https://mobile.twitter.com/RyanJames...31081281294336
                      Imagine we are done then. Just have to struggle through with what we have.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by MrAugustana View Post

                        Looks like Noah will be heading to Kirkwood CC. The NSIC can breathe a brief sigh of relief.

                        https://mobile.twitter.com/RyanJames...31081281294336
                        Yep.

                        https://www.postbulletin.com/sports/...acaae1caa.html

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DapperDan View Post

                          As things stand now Winona has 16 on the roster. Former student manager Brandon Goebel is on as a good guy gift and I’m sure he receives nothing so that leaves 15 to carve up 10 rides. Based on past performance Taylor, Whitelow and maybe Lo Biondo have to be taken care of. The two transfers obviously, so that leaves maybe five for the remaining 10 guys. Perhaps with other sources like academic help and other aid you can effectively push that up a little maybe to the equivalent of a scholarship or two being Winona is a moderate cost state school. I don’t know what is typical for incoming recruits but I think Abdul-Wahid is seen as a Taylor quality replacement and the twins look good on film. Don’t know much about Arenz (is he the brother of Nick?). I’m sure they all have to get something. So let’s say five get full and the rest get a half plus or minus. Is that typical at D2? Who would you say needs more? Would quality new recruits have signed for partial scholarships?I don’t know. I see quite a few teams around with 15 or so guys. Northern comes to mind and I’m sure there are are many others. Do a number of these players hook on for nothing? With the talent Winona has I can see a problem. In the glory days they had awesome front liners but it clearly dropped off when Leaf went to the bench. It seems now almost everyone can at least hold there own. Good problem to have I guess. I’m completely out of my league here but fun to speculate.
                          I have always just assumed that most programs are doing a scholarship set up like you suggest. Half the guys on fulls, with halves going to the others. Who gets what likely changes on an annual basis. Maybe I'm totally wrong, but that approach seems to make sense.

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                          • #28
                            A friend and I had speculated that perhaps Noah could still end up at WSU for his brother's senior season. I actually kind of respect his decision to not just sign at another D1 (or DII for that matter) without being able to have a full and open recruitment.

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                            • #29
                              https://winonastatewarriors.com/news...ing-class.aspx

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